OK OK - Oklahoma City, Stinchcomb Wildlife Refuge, WhtFem 25-40, UP6728, skull in creek, Mar'09

[interestedincases]

This place appears to be a dumping ground of sorts or just lots of bodies tend to turn up


Investigation Underway After 3rd Body Found At Lake Overholser

Good grief!!!

 

[Melt71]

Newly created Namus case for Edwina Michelle Bull missing from Oklahoma City since 1991. www.namus.gov/MissingPersons/Case#/63769/details
www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/ok-edwina-michelle-bull-21-oklahoma-city-27-aug-1991.492961/#post-15670952

The UID and Edwina both have the same Namus contacts.

 

[carbuff]

Two new exclusions (bolded):

MP6998 Rozlin Abell 007/25/1985 Oklahoma OK
MP6999 Fawn Abell 07/25/1985 Oklahoma OK
MP850 Gail Anderson 10/23/2004 Stephens OK
MP1742 Dana Bruce Missouri
MP920 Kristen Charbonneau 08/11/2005 Tarrant TX
MP262 Dail Dinwiddie 09/24/1992 Richland SC
MP5411 Cerilla Doyle 10/27/2008 Benton AR
MP1028 Tracy Florez 07/01/2005 Cleveland OK
MP25435 Dione Fox 09/01/1996 Rogers OK
MP7771 Francine Frost 02/16/1981 Tulsa OK
MP242 Jasmine Haslag 05/29/2007 Cole MO
MP1650 Katherine Heck 02/01/2009 Bell KY
MP7397 Nancy Medina 08/04/1984 Oklahoma OK
MP4166 Sherry Milton 08/15/2005 Jefferson AL
MP9034 Cynthia Robison 10/11/2007 San Joaquin CA
MP26115 Eva West Oklahoma

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[carbuff]

MP6998 Rozlin Abell 007/25/1985 Oklahoma OK
MP6999 Fawn Abell 07/25/1985 Oklahoma OK
MP850 Gail Anderson 10/23/2004 Stephens OK
MP1742 Dana Bruce Missouri
MP920 Kristen Charbonneau 08/11/2005 Tarrant TX
MP262 Dail Dinwiddie 09/24/1992 Richland SC
MP5411 Cerilla Doyle 10/27/2008 Benton AR
MP1028 Tracy Florez 07/01/2005 Cleveland OK
MP25435 Dione Fox 09/01/1996 Rogers OK
MP7771 Francine Frost 02/16/1981 Tulsa OK
MP242 Jasmine Haslag 05/29/2007 Cole MO
MP1650 Katherine Heck 02/01/2009 Bell KY
MP26174 Lora McIntire 03/08/1990 Oklahoma OK
MP7397 Nancy Medina 08/04/1984 Oklahoma OK
MP4166 Sherry Milton 08/15/2005 Jefferson AL
MP9034 Cynthia Robison 10/11/2007 San Joaquin CA
MP26115 Eva West Oklahoma

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Gena79]

I live down the street from this place and people have always known that this is the place that people hide bodies. It was a teen hangout spot and used to be very rural and not advertised. It’s not like it is now. The only people going to Stinchcomb were not going for good reasons.

I think this is where Fawn Abel and her sister are. I grew up in Bethany and they were my sisters age.

 

[rleigh123]

Deleted. Wrong thread.

 

[Hochman]

Added March 26, 2010

 

[whorton]

The link is now dead. . if you could post the date of the article, I can make a trip to the historical society and get a copy to post here.

 

[whorton]

Pamela Tinsely was last seen at Lake Overholser.

THAT is a very good possibility.

 

[whorton]

If you don't see her name in the NamUs casefile for this UID ...

https://identifyus.org/cases/6728 (Nancy Medina is the only name listed)​

... you can check out Websleuths rule-out thread:

Ruled Out Unidentified Victims Rule Outs -MERGED- - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community​

​

You can also do a Websleuths site-wide search on Susan Smalley's name and the UID's NamUs and DoeNet case numbers to see if that possible match was considered before in discussion on a different thread (BTW, there doesn't appear to be a DoeNetwork case file for this UID).
<modsnip - no longer a valid site>

If you can't find evidence of a submission or rule out by the above means, the only other option that I know of is to just call in and ask.

I hate to say it, but each and every one of the links you offered her is now dead, (as of May 2022.)

 

[whorton]

Link is dead.

 

[whorton]

The problem with this case is that as of today, (23 may 2022) not a single article can be pulled up and read about this matter. Worse, the Daily Oklahoman Archive was apparently hacked a few years ago, and does not work with a flip. For instance I attempted to search the Daily Oklahoman from Mar 1, 2009 to Apr 1, 2009 using the terms, "Skull found" and "Stinchcomb" NO RESULTS FOUND. . .just tried "Skull" and "Stinchcom" with the same results NO RESULTS FOUND. .

Same with the Tulsa paper. . .

Geez, I even tried "University" for the same time period with, NO RESULTS FOUND. Their archives are useless unless you have a specific date.

The old axion that nothing is ever really gone on the internet, seems to be demonstrably false these days.

Some valid links as of today:

Expert will examine skull discovered at Stinchcomb Wildlife Refuge (Mar 21, 2009)​

Expert will examine skull discovered at Stinchcomb Wildlife Refuge

Forensic anthropologist Clyde Snow will examine a human skull found Wednesday in Stinchcomb Wildlife Refuge, a state medical examiner’s spokeswoman said Friday. The skull was found on the ground by c…

www.oklahoman.com

Oklahoma City Police Seek Public Help Identifying Human Remains (24 Mar 2009)​

Oklahoma City Police Seek Public Help Identifying Human Remains

Oklahoma City Police Homicide investigators have released a photo in a case from 2009.

www.newson6.com

Oklahoma City Jane Doe (2009) WIki:​

https://🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬/wiki/Oklahoma_City_Jane_Doe_(2009)

Model used to help identify skull found at Stinchcomb Wildlife Refuge (Daily oklahoman)​

Model used to help identify skull found at Stinchcomb Wildlife Refuge

A photo of a clay model created by a forensic artist to help identify a human skull has been released by Oklahoma City police. The model depicts a woman whose skull was found at Stinchcomb Wildlife R…

www.oklahoman.com

 

[whorton]

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tinsley_pamela.html

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/6730

Log into Facebook (Interesting comment about what happened when she was reported missing)

They both have DNA so it ought to be a ruleout by default.

A good version of events for Pam Tinsley:

Oklahoma Cold Case: The Disappearance of Pamela Tinsley

She went on a motorcycle ride with a stranger and was never seen again.

medium.com

 

[whorton]

The problem with the 2009 skull is that it could have come from anywhere. The Stinchcomb wildlife reserve is largely swampy area, with a river running through it and draining into lake Overholser. . The body could have come from anywhere upstream. Here is a map image of Stinchcomb and the lake it drains into to the south:

Oklahoma City · Oklahoma

Oklahoma

www.google.com

You can zoom in, or out, and switch to an aerial photo as well. AS you can see, the North Canadian river comes in from the North side of the Wildlife reserve, but generally flows in from the West to East before turning south. Remember, Oklahoma was largely indigenous peoples, and the remains could have come from an old indian grave, and there was fort Reno out at El Reno a few miles to the West. While no graves there had been disturbed, it could have been an unknown grave from the river changing course over the years.

A check on Google reveals nothing further has been released on this case since roughly March 25, 2010. . .some 13 years now. Which is the same article above essentially. . .

 

[Caring1]

23 Missing Person Exclusions

 

[Gee_rich1]

Here’s some suggestions:

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov