Found Deceased Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, found dead, manhunt on for father, Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025 #2

[Stunned]

Oh yeah my zip ties are in my master bathroom closet in the tool box! The fact they were in his car definitely points to premeditation.

He was homeless, he didn't have a master bathroom closet to keep his tool box in.

 

[Boxer]

True, but why carry a large bag of zip ties and a whole lot of plastic bags from your truck when you only need 3 of each to do the job?

Good question. I'd say he brought them in their plastic packages because it was easier.

 

[Seattle1]

LIVE UPDATES: Law enforcement shifts strategy in search for Travis Decker

Law enforcement shifts strategy in search for Travis Decker, suspect in daughters’ homicides

www.wenatcheeworld.com

6/11/25

He said the search will continue as they wait for Decker to make a mistake.

“He’s not going to be able to make a mistake, because all we need is one mistake and one day to go in our favor, and he’s going to be in our custody,” Morrison said. “So I hope he’s watching. I hope he knows that we haven’t given up.”

 

[Sundog]

Oh my how sad. I really am curious if he was using some type of drugs to self-medicate in the final years. It sounds like he was fine and then he just was not. When his dad and him tried to go to the house to see if they could help him and talk to him, he was upset they came over unannounced. Sounds like they were close before, so this is very odd to me.

It is very sad, and sounds like the brother is saying that the changes occurred in the last three years.

 

[Seattle1]

6/11/25 - Presser

 

[kae27]

The temps are probably closer to 98 during the day and 50s/60s at night. I was just over in Leavenworth/Chelan county over the weekend. I am curious how he is surviving without water because if he's truly hiking around, it is HOT during the day. I suppose he could be drinking from streams and rivers out there.

If he's in the Enchantments, then this is wouldn't be right. The elevation would make it much colder, and at this time of year much of it is still snow-covered. I learned that the hard way many years ago the first time I went, when we couldn't even get to Colchuck at the end of May without snowshoes, let alone into the Core Enchantments.

 

[Snoop Sister]

True, but why carry a large bag of zip ties and a whole lot of plastic bags from your truck when you only need 3 of each to do the job?

Maybe they blew out of his tent…who knows. The guy is obviously not in his right mind.

 

[LucyOso]

The thing is TD recognized he had issues and sought mental health intervention through the VA. He was put on a waiting list and did not have an advocate. We (in US and Canada) need to do more for our veterans. This includes but not limited to mental health, housing and financial guidance.
More money needs to be allotted to the VA.

And in both countries, I feel we need to address and modify the Amber Alert System. Hopefully, Whitney Decker will help in advocating for these changes in the future.

Edited to add: I am in no way sticking up for TD’s actions. But, had he received the help he requested, perhaps the scenario would have been different.

Call for compassion, love, and action from Whitney Decker’s friends and family

According to Whitney’s friends and family, she’s hoping that energy can be channeled into changing the systems she believes failed her daughters.

www.yahoo.com

I posted about this in the other thread. VA funding has been slashed.

Found Deceased Post in thread 'Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, Endangered Alert, visitation w/ homeless dad Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025'

Jun 5, 2025

Just my thoughts here, but even if this guy has no mental health issues at all, his CIRCUMSTANCES at this time, should have precluded him from ever having unsupervised overnight or weekend visits with the children.
Certainly good people can fine themselves homeless and entire families can find themselves homeless, but the circumstance of being homeless…instability, contact with total strangers, lack of money, etc…is no place anyone would voluntarily want children to be.
Despite what his ex-wife said about what a great guy he was…she was talking about him…not his homelessness, the...

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[Gemmie]

Another reason I'm in the "I think it was planned" camp.

[Travis] used Google search terms on May 26 related to moving from the U.S. to Canada.

"These Google searches included the following: 'how does a person move to canada', 'how to relocate to canada', 'jobs canada' and 'jobs canada'," U.S. Deputy Marshal Keegan Stanley wrote in the affidavit. "After the above-listed Google searches, he visited the site 'Find a job - Canada.ca'."

Travis Decker now sought on federal warrant related to daughters' murders

SPOKANE — Travis Caleb Decker is now a federally wanted fugitive, as well as a man sought on local charges in the murders of his three daughters.

www.ncwlife.com

 

[LucyOso]

This may be a senseless question, given where things stand with this case and the search for Decker.

I keep wondering why Decker didn't take off in his truck and at least get some distance between the crime scene and a possible escape route, e.g. Canada or a different state, before any search for the girls would have been initiated? And now that we know he may be in the wild ill prepared for what he is up against (presuming the man seen by hikers and LE from the air is Decker), I wonder about this question even more.

The only thing I can come up with is that Decker must be in the midst of a psychotic episode and truly out of touch with reality or any logical or tactical thinking.

A psychotic episode is a period during which a person experiences a loss of contact with reality, often characterized by hallucinations, delusions, and/or disorganized thinking. WebMD.

Found Deceased Post in thread 'Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, Endangered Alert, visitation w/ homeless dad Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025'

Tuesday at 8:29 PM

*Chelan County Sheriff's Office Media Release**
**Update 10 1630 hours 6/10/2025**


Our office recently received a tip from a hiking party who stated they spotted a lone hiker in the Enchantments area who appeared to be ill prepared for trail and weather conditions, and appeared to be avoiding others. Tracking teams immediately acted upon the information and spotted a lone, off trail hiker from a helicopter near Colchuck Lake who ran from sight as the helicopter passed. Additional assets were called to the area while they developed a plan to track the individual. Teams later picked...

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Moo - I am not convinced that it was pre-planned. I wonder if his trip to the campground was in an effort to establish a home base so he could maintain some custody? But with the rebuffed offer to reconcile, and the girls becoming more emotional - things were slipping out of his control?

Again, just moo - but 9 is old enough to be very curious - and to listen intently to what is being said and done. She would likely resist suggestions that the future would be “different”… If she knew things… about why custody was set up the way it was.

Also - I want desperately to believe they were sedated and I am going to do everything in my power to hold that hope. I don’t want to know anything to the contrary.

Found Deceased Post in thread 'Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, Endangered Alert, visitation w/ homeless dad Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025'

Jun 5, 2025

Just my thoughts here, but even if this guy has no mental health issues at all, his CIRCUMSTANCES at this time, should have precluded him from ever having unsupervised overnight or weekend visits with the children.
Certainly good people can fine themselves homeless and entire families can find themselves homeless, but the circumstance of being homeless…instability, contact with total strangers, lack of money, etc…is no place anyone would voluntarily want children to be.
Despite what his ex-wife said about what a great guy he was…she was talking about him…not his homelessness, the...

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Found Deceased Post in thread 'Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, Endangered Alert, visitation w/ homeless dad Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025'

Jun 6, 2025

I wondered if that no insurance ticket would be just enough to tip him over the edge and thinking if he wasnt divorced he'd still be at home... finding some creative way of blaming her, even tho he filed. What an epic mind game it must have been to be with him

Definitely not mind games. If he truly had a proven diagnosis of BPD or Narcissism, these people are not playing games. These really are unmodifiable characteristics like having blue or brown eyes and being 5'0" tall. Any type of personality disorder is extremely difficult to treat. As a society we throw around these terms...

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Definitely agree with you both. I posted in the previous thread. Easier to copy forward to here.

 

[LucyOso]

OK, I'll probably get hit for asking this, but this guy has extensive military survival training. Why does our military offer such training? Sure seems to me that most military actions today are urban - use might be a leftover? Who decides who gets this training? What mental evaluations are given before such training?

We don't know how long TD had mental issues, but it's probable they were present for years.

Found Deceased Post in thread 'Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, Endangered Alert, visitation w/ homeless dad Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025'

Jun 6, 2025

I wondered if that no insurance ticket would be just enough to tip him over the edge and thinking if he wasnt divorced he'd still be at home... finding some creative way of blaming her, even tho he filed. What an epic mind game it must have been to be with him

Definitely not mind games. If he truly had a proven diagnosis of BPD or Narcissism, these people are not playing games. These really are unmodifiable characteristics like having blue or brown eyes and being 5'0" tall. Any type of personality disorder is extremely difficult to treat. As a society we throw around these terms...

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Jun 4, 2025

No, but it seems like he had a lot of challenges one after the other, like you cant get your head above water. Then the smallest things become huge.
Whatever started it, just got out of control. No excuses, wonder what stopped him from getting help before resorting to this.

He seemed to have excessive situational stress compounding with no end in sight. So many stressors. I am going to guess that getting help also meant the possibility of a discharge from the National Guard. This would be loss of not only his income flow, but a huge part of his identity and persona.

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Found Deceased Post in thread 'Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, Endangered Alert, visitation w/ homeless dad Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025'

Jun 3, 2025

What I don't understand is his extensive military record. Shouldn't such persons be required to undergo a mental evaluation before being awarded these positions. But, things change. He's out of the military. No idea what happened to him.

Every single person alive has the potential to have some form of anxiety, depression, mental health issues. Sometimes it is extremely obvious very early on due to body/chemical issues. Sometimes the potential is there, then a series of events, like war, rape, victimization by systems, create major issues. Most can be treated with therapy and meds...

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[Detective Willy]

Did he do this to hurt his ex as much as possible?

Will he wait until he has been cornered and when he realises there is no way out then kill himself?

My thoughts that this may have been his thought process and what may be the final outcome.

 

[JulieAnne]

Did he do this to hurt his ex as much as possible?

Will he wait until he has been cornered and when he realises there is no way out then kill himself?

My thoughts that this may have been his thought process and what may be the final outcome.

IIRC, TD said on the night he picked them up, “the only thing I have left are you and the girls”…

MOO - I hope peolple are taking precautions in case he believes he has one stone left to throw before he’s ready to check out.

 

[Snoop Sister]

I want to clear something up regarding narcissists as a few people that knew TD referred to him as being narcissistic. NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) is a valid mental health disorder. Some people when they think of someone being narcissistic, they think only of someone who is arrogant, has a superior attitude and thinks only of themselves. While this can be true, someone with NPD, can also have a low self image, self-esteem and regularly look for reassurance from others. (According to his squad mate, TD seemed to want that from his father who he looked up to). Also, sometimes people affected by NPD struggle with feelings of alienation, failure etc. and it can affect a person’s sense of self-esteem, belonging and how they treat others.

People also with NPD can become very angry and full of rage when they feel criticized. This can perhaps be witnessed with TD’s reaction with his brother and father’s attempted “intervention”. Moo

Some food for thought.

 

[Boxer]

No helicopter activity that I can see.

 

[kae27]

I want to clear something up regarding narcissists as a few people that knew TD referred to him as being narcissistic. NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) is a valid mental health disorder. Some people when they think of someone being narcissistic, they think only of someone who is arrogant, has a superior attitude and thinks only of themselves. While this can be true, someone with NPD, can also have a low self image, self-esteem and regularly look for reassurance from others. (According to his squad mate, TD seemed to want that from his father who he looked up to). Also, sometimes people affected by NPD struggle with feelings of alienation, failure etc. and it can affect a person’s sense of self-esteem, belonging and how they treat others.

People also with NPD can become very angry and full of rage when they feel criticized. This can perhaps be witnessed with TD’s reaction with his brother and father’s attempted “intervention”. Moo

Some food for thought.

Really appreciate insights like this. I know legal stuff, and hiking stuff, but not that type of information. It's extremely insightful and valuable.

I recently moved out of the PNW but still feel like this area is my "home," so I have a particularly keen interest in this guy being found, which this type of information can be so useful in doing. The circumstances of this case continue to make me literally physically ill.

 

[Snoop Sister]

Really appreciate insights like this. I know legal stuff, and hiking stuff, but not that type of information. It's extremely insightful and valuable.

I recently moved out of the PNW but still feel like this area is my "home," so I have a particularly keen interest in this guy being found, which this type of information can be so useful in doing. The circumstances of this case continue to make me literally physically ill.

Awwww. It is a very horrific case! You probably know you are not alone in in feeling the way you do. Although, I understand or at least I think I might understand some of TD’s mental health issues and disorders and some of his behaviours, they aren’t an excuse for his actions. It is an understanding only. I feel for everyone involved.

 

[LucyOso]

I want to clear something up regarding narcissists as a few people that knew TD referred to him as being narcissistic. NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) is a valid mental health disorder. Some people when they think of someone being narcissistic, they think only of someone who is arrogant, has a superior attitude and thinks only of themselves. While this can be true, someone with NPD, can also have a low self image, self-esteem and regularly look for reassurance from others. (According to his squad mate, TD seemed to want that from his father who he looked up to). Also, sometimes people affected by NPD struggle with feelings of alienation, failure etc. and it can affect a person’s sense of self-esteem, belonging and how they treat others.

People also with NPD can become very angry and full of rage when they feel criticized. This can perhaps be witnessed with TD’s reaction with his brother and father’s attempted “intervention”. Moo

Some food for thought.

I agree. I also posted in the other threads as well. There is a true diagnosis and there are narcissistic traits that get thrown around very loosely these days. We don't know if he had actual diagnoses of BPD or NPD. Those can take years to diagnose, many symptoms overlap with other disorders, and many other treatable mental health diagnoses can present similarly.

Found Deceased Post in thread 'Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, Endangered Alert, visitation w/ homeless dad Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025'

Jun 6, 2025

I wondered if that no insurance ticket would be just enough to tip him over the edge and thinking if he wasnt divorced he'd still be at home... finding some creative way of blaming her, even tho he filed. What an epic mind game it must have been to be with him

Definitely not mind games. If he truly had a proven diagnosis of BPD or Narcissism, these people are not playing games. These really are unmodifiable characteristics like having blue or brown eyes and being 5'0" tall. Any type of personality disorder is extremely difficult to treat. As a society we throw around these terms...

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Found Deceased Post in thread 'Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, Endangered Alert, visitation w/ homeless dad Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025'

Jun 5, 2025

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> ... The wife referred to his BPD and narcissism to the court. BOTH those terms are loosely thrown around these days (just watch TikTok, everyone's EX has this). People can show signs, and trust me, depending on who is scrutinizing us, and believe we have traits of these disorders. Related situational stressors can manifest similar symptoms. Diagnosis can take decades as well.

Again, if these were his true diagnoses, he would NOT be active with any branch of military, Yeah, he ghosted the National Guard, but he was still active.

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[Snoop Sister]

No helicopter activity that I can see.

I saw one but I think it landed or went off grid. Check some of the planes as well…today there was one plane doing circular rotation just west of Wenatchee.

 

[noZme]

It is very sad, and sounds like the brother is saying that the changes occurred in the last three years.