Found Deceased Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, found dead, manhunt on for father, Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025 #2

The first time I heard this and again now I notice that Travis states in court that they have never done anything he wouldn't want to put himself in. A little peek into self focus? There's a big difference between a grown, physically strong man and three little girls. He was not the topic.
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Hi everyone, I’ve only posted on websleuths a few times over the years, so I don’t know if I’m doing this correctly. And if anything I post is against the TOS please let me know and delete or I will delete. I am a mental health therapist, and I have been treating, PTSD, BPD and mood and other anxiety disorders for 25 years. I have worked with a lot of families who have been victims of domestic violence (family violence is the newest term). And one thing that I am wondered is if Whitney may have been exposed to domestic violence that was perpetrated by him, if she and the children were exposed to more of that than has been disclosed. And if so, if perhaps she and the children had developed some Stockholm Syndrome. That is common among family violence victims as many of them find it very painful to acknowledge that their loved one is capable of such psychological, physical, sexual, financial, religious abuse and any of the other types of abuse. When I say that I certainly don’t mean that in any negative way. I mean it as a point of concern for her and to illustrate my hope that she has a lot of support to help her navigate the trauma that she has endured. And to say that it is possible that he had more of a history of violent behavior than had been reported. I have a hunch about that.

An additional thing is that I do some DIalectical Behavior Therapy for BPD and Transference Focused Psychotherapy. Per the TFP deeper exploration of Borderline Personality there is some research about NPD. Specifically that that is a more infantile manifestation of BPD and that violence and disconnection from or admonishment of empathy and conscience can occur. Thus resulting in violent behavior. And there is much deep rooted insecurity that fuels that.

On that note I believe that TD retaliated against Whitney for the fact that she did not want to reconcile. I also wonder if he retaliated against his daughters because he was angry about the fact that his wages were being garnished to make up for back child support. It is also possible that he had and has some psychosis. All of those things are not mutually exclusive. Lastly, I watched the video several times and I saw (at least what appears to me) doing a sweep of the door to check for wires, camera attachments or other related sensors. I think that was likely what he was doing and was indicative of paranoia.

All of this is strictly my opinion. And I hope and pray that law enforcement is providing protection for Whitney and her family. And that she has so much support.
 
Hi everyone, I’ve only posted on websleuths a few times over the years, so I don’t know if I’m doing this correctly. And if anything I post is against the TOS please let me know and delete or I will delete. I am a mental health therapist, and I have been treating, PTSD, BPD and mood and other anxiety disorders for 25 years. I have worked with a lot of families who have been victims of domestic violence (family violence is the newest term). And one thing that I am wondered is if Whitney may have been exposed to domestic violence that was perpetrated by him, if she and the children were exposed to more of that than has been disclosed. And if so, if perhaps she and the children had developed some Stockholm Syndrome. That is common among family violence victims as many of them find it very painful to acknowledge that their loved one is capable of such psychological, physical, sexual, financial, religious abuse and any of the other types of abuse. When I say that I certainly don’t mean that in any negative way. I mean it as a point of concern for her and to illustrate my hope that she has a lot of support to help her navigate the trauma that she has endured. And to say that it is possible that he had more of a history of violent behavior than had been reported. I have a hunch about that.

An additional thing is that I do some DIalectical Behavior Therapy for BPD and Transference Focused Psychotherapy. Per the TFP deeper exploration of Borderline Personality there is some research about NPD. Specifically that that is a more infantile manifestation of BPD and that violence and disconnection from or admonishment of empathy and conscience can occur. Thus resulting in violent behavior. And there is much deep rooted insecurity that fuels that.

On that note I believe that TD retaliated against Whitney for the fact that she did not want to reconcile. I also wonder if he retaliated against his daughters because he was angry about the fact that his wages were being garnished to make up for back child support. It is also possible that he had and has some psychosis. All of those things are not mutually exclusive. Lastly, I watched the video several times and I saw (at least what appears to me) doing a sweep of the door to check for wires, camera attachments or other related sensors. I think that was likely what he was doing and was indicative of paranoia.

All of this is strictly my opinion. And I hope and pray that law enforcement is providing protection for Whitney and her family. And that she has so much support.
I believe there was a lot more abuse than what we've learned so far. I also think at this point she is horrifically scared of what else he's capable of , not that anything could be worse than what he already did. If he's not found, she will never take another step alone . I really do hope he's found dead . But, that's just me . If this happened to my children I could never live another day . MOO
 
Hi everyone, I’ve only posted on websleuths a few times over the years, so I don’t know if I’m doing this correctly. And if anything I post is against the TOS please let me know and delete or I will delete. I am a mental health therapist, and I have been treating, PTSD, BPD and mood and other anxiety disorders for 25 years. I have worked with a lot of families who have been victims of domestic violence (family violence is the newest term). And one thing that I am wondered is if Whitney may have been exposed to domestic violence that was perpetrated by him, if she and the children were exposed to more of that than has been disclosed. And if so, if perhaps she and the children had developed some Stockholm Syndrome. That is common among family violence victims as many of them find it very painful to acknowledge that their loved one is capable of such psychological, physical, sexual, financial, religious abuse and any of the other types of abuse. When I say that I certainly don’t mean that in any negative way. I mean it as a point of concern for her and to illustrate my hope that she has a lot of support to help her navigate the trauma that she has endured. And to say that it is possible that he had more of a history of violent behavior than had been reported. I have a hunch about that.

An additional thing is that I do some DIalectical Behavior Therapy for BPD and Transference Focused Psychotherapy. Per the TFP deeper exploration of Borderline Personality there is some research about NPD. Specifically that that is a more infantile manifestation of BPD and that violence and disconnection from or admonishment of empathy and conscience can occur. Thus resulting in violent behavior. And there is much deep rooted insecurity that fuels that.

On that note I believe that TD retaliated against Whitney for the fact that she did not want to reconcile. I also wonder if he retaliated against his daughters because he was angry about the fact that his wages were being garnished to make up for back child support. It is also possible that he had and has some psychosis. All of those things are not mutually exclusive. Lastly, I watched the video several times and I saw (at least what appears to me) doing a sweep of the door to check for wires, camera attachments or other related sensors. I think that was likely what he was doing and was indicative of paranoia.

All of this is strictly my opinion. And I hope and pray that law enforcement is providing protection for Whitney and her family. And that she has so much support.
I haven't seen any reports that TD had a history of violence, including family violence. In fact, it seems to have come as a shock/surprise to those who are closest to him that these violent killings of the children occurred. IMO, he is experiencing a psychotic break and it has come as a shock to everyone who is close to him.
 
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I haven't seen any reports that TD had a history of violence, including family violence. In fact, it seems to have come as a shock/surprise to those who are closest to him that these violent killings of the children occurred. IMO, he is experiencing a psychotic break and it has come as a shock to everyone who he is close to.
Yes, that’s what I was thinking re the lack of reports of violence. And I was wondering if he did, indeed, have a history or psychological and/or physical violence but that has not been reported thusfar. That happens in a lot of families. And it’s especially true when the victims develop facets of Stockholm syndrome. They may take up for the abuser as a way to convince themselves that it wasn’t that bad, As a way to align with the abuser so that they don’t have to acknowledge the harder truth and go through all the motions to cut ties, which is very hard to do in custody situations. I hope that isn’t the case but it will not surprise me if, as this situation evolves, it is later revealed that he was, indeed, violent. And I agree with you. I also believe that he has some psychosis, just not that that is the only thing that caused him to murder his babies.
 
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I believe there was a lot more abuse than what we've learned so far. I also think at this point she is horrifically scared of what else he's capable of , not that anything could be worse than what he already did. If he's not found, she will never take another step alone . I really do hope he's found dead . But, that's just me . If this happened to my children I could never live another day . MOO
Agree. If hes found dead she will never have to hear detailed accounts of what he actually did to the children, she’ll never have to go to court, she’ll never have to be more involved in whatever happens with him legally or morally. Mostly she won’t have to visualize anything he says about what he actually did any more than she already does. This of course, is based on the idea that he is guilty of murdering his children. In many ways, I think it might be better for her not to have to ever see him again. Just my opinion, and I am personalizing it somewhat. It’s already too horrible for words. JMO.
 
I believe there was a lot more abuse than what we've learned so far. I also think at this point she is horrifically scared of what else he's capable of , not that anything could be worse than what he already did. If he's not found, she will never take another step alone . I really do hope he's found dead . But, that's just me . If this happened to my children I could never live another day . MOO
I agree, especially this part
I think at this point she is horrifically scared of what else he's capable of"
I think she was scared for a while, it sounded like she was walking on eggshells for a long time
She was very cooperative about visits, wanting him to maintain a relationship with the kids, and probably hoping the kids might be the one positive in his life that motivates him to improve.
but I wonder if she made decisions out of fear more than anything else, afraid of what he'd do if he lost visits or if they were very restricted. she could have been afraid of what he might do to them, or what he would do to himself.

Maybe not even afraid of violence, maybe she was afraid of the psycholgial warfare that could happen ,
 
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Lastly, I watched the video several times and I saw (at least what appears to me) doing a sweep of the door to check for wires, camera attachments or other related sensors. I think that was likely what he was doing and was indicative of paranoia.
In the video, it is a door bell cam. I think he bent to show his face and people often do in front of my door bell cam. Additionally, there doesn’t need to be any wires etc as he knows it is a cam. Most door bell cams have voice activation button that the viewer can hear if the person at the door is says something. No need to look for wires etc. In my opinion his behaviours are no way indicative of paranoia.

I myself turn to the side afterward ringing the door bell because I know how creepy it is when someone stands at my door staring in to the cam. I can attest that most people turn away after showing their faces. I have had door bell cams since they were first sold in Canada. Nothing paranoid there in my opinion. :)

ETA - I hope we are talking about the same video. I have not seen any other video of TD besides the door cam one on here. Am I missing something?
 
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I haven't seen any reports that TD had a history of violence, including family violence. In fact, it seems to have come as a shock/surprise to those who are closest to him that these violent killings of the children occurred. IMO, he is experiencing a psychotic break and it has come as a shock to everyone who is close to him.
I concur. There is absolutely no indication or reports that Whitney and/or her children have been subjected to any ongoing family violence whether that be psychologically or physically. These are the type of accusations that Whitney’s lawyer is trying to prevent imo.
 
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In the video, it is a door bell cam. I think he bent to show his face and people often do in front of my door bell cam. Additionally, there doesn’t need to be any wires etc as he knows it is a cam. Most door bell cams have voice activation button that the viewer can hear if the person at the door is says something. No need to look for wires etc. In my opinion his behaviours are no way indicative of paranoia.

I myself turn to the side afterward ringing the door bell because I know how creepy it is when someone stands at my door staring in to the cam. I can attest that most people turn away after showing their faces. I have had door bell cams since they were first sold in Canada. Nothing paranoid there in my opinion. :)

ETA - I hope we are talking about the same video. I have not seen any other video of TD besides the door cam one on here. Am I missing something?
I apologize. I should’ve been more clear in my post and should not have used the word camera without explaining that. What I meant was camera or other things, a trip wire etc. He possibly saw or heard something that either triggered him to feel the urge to check the door /run his hand down the side or the door or sweep as some would call it. Or there was some stimulus that was consistent with the potential psychotic symptoms that he was possibly already having. He may have done sweeps of other doors, doorways, in other areas but that is the only one that we can see. That is not an uncommon behavior and thought process for veterans who have been stationed in war zones and have ptsd related to that.

I have a doorbell camera and I have never seen anyone do the mannerisms that he did. However, I have seen that behavior in some of the court cases that I’ve worked on over the last years since cameras became more readily available. And have seen it in training seminars on ptsd and other disorders that include paranoia.

All of this to say that it may be completely benign. But, possibly due to my history and work experience I see it differently. My lens that I’m using to view all this may be biased toward pathology. And I may be wrong. So I appreciate you for sharing your opinion. It’s definitely some food for thought.
 
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I apologize. I should’ve been more clear in my post and should not have used the word camera without explaining that. What I meant was camera or other things, a trip wire etc. He possibly saw or heard something that either triggered him to feel the urge to check the door /run his hand down the side or the door or sweep as some would call it. Or there was some stimulus that was consistent with the potential psychotic symptoms that he was possibly already having. He may have done sweeps of other doors, doorways, in other areas but that is the only one that we can see. That is not an uncommon behavior and thought process for veterans who have been stationed in war zones and have ptsd related to that.

I have a doorbell camera and I have never seen anyone do the mannerisms that he did. However, I have seen that behavior in some of the court cases that I’ve worked on over the last years since cameras became more readily available. And have seen it in training seminars on ptsd and other disorders that include paranoia.

All of this to say that it may be completely benign. But, possibly due to my history and work experience I see it differently. My lens that I’m using to view all this may be biased toward pathology. And I may be wrong. So I appreciate you for sharing your opinion. It’s definitely some food for thought.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. :)
What are your thoughts planned or unplanned in regards to the girls?
 
I concur. There is absolutely no indication or reports that Whitney and/or her children have been subjected to any ongoing family violence whether that be psychologically or physically. These are the type of accusations that Whitney’s lawyer is trying to prevent imo.


"There is some info in the court docs, that talk about this.
It may not have been a long history but it was escalatng.

“Since our separation, it has become increasingly clear that Travis has been struggling to maintain stability in his life,” Whitney said in the declaration seen by KIRO 7 News.

Decker’s “lack of stability” was blamed for leading to a “negative impact on their children,” by Whitney.

The three girls were “deeply affected,” which led to “heightened emotional stress,” she added.






 
May be a repeat , but, first I've heard the voice part and this youtube Chanel is a very informative site for real news , this is the description of their youtube .

NCWLIFE Channel is the local TV station for North Central Washington. Located in the Wenatchee Valley NCWLIFE brings you the latest news, weather, sports, events and people of this beautiful part of Washington State and the Pacific .

Here is audio of TD at court .

In courtroom audio, Travis Decker pleads for visitation time​

 
Sheriff Mike Morrison said the net is tightening on the search for Travis Decker.

Morrison said Decker has one option left: Make a mistake. When he does, authorities will be ready.

After more than a week on the run, Morrison said Decker cannot hide forever.

“You’re going to have to be perfect every single day, Travis. We only have to be perfect one day,” he said.


[...]

Climbing experts believe Decker likely hiked nearly 20 miles from Rock Creek Campground, where his daughters’ bodies were found, up Windy Pass, past Stuart Lake to Colchuck Lake, and then dropped 4,000 feet into Ingalls Creek.

It is a route with over 7,000 feet of elevation gain and dangerous conditions.

“There’s no trail from there. A lot of it is like third-, fourth-class rock, steep trees, steep heather. Up in that area, there’s still snow about 6,000 feet,” said Jonathon Spitzer with Alpine Ascents.


‘We will not stop’: Authorities say search is narrowing for father accused of killing 3 daughters
If he was still alive wouldn't he be detected by thermal sensing?
 
I stumbled across Decker's affidavit. From it...

It is a nationwide extradition warrant. I also noted Judge Jourdan included on the arrest warrant “No bail until first appearance”.

The location of the victim’s remains is relatively close to the Canadian border and approximately 11 miles from the Pacific Crest Trail, a well-established trail that leads directly Canada. DECKER is a former military member with training in navigation, woodland/mountainous terrain, long distance movements, survival and numerous other disciplines needed to be able to flee from the Eastern District of Washington.

Further, during the investigation, it was learned DECKER is a very avid and well-versed outdoorsman. Prior to the above alleged crimes, DECKER frequently recreated in outdoor, woodland and mountainous areas throughout the Eastern District of Washington and surrounding states. Amongst other outdoorsman activities, DECKER frequently engaged in hiking, camping, survival skill practice, hunting and even lived off the grid in the backwoods for approximately 2.5 months on one occasion.


Travis Caleb Decker
The living off grid for 2.5 months is really significant IMO
 
The living off grid for 2.5 months is really significant IMO
it is, but one would imagine there would have been much planning beforehand and more importantly, food supplies and clothing/footwear. We do not know what, if anything TD had with him. From the reports from the manhunt, it would appear that the person spotted by the hiker/s was ill equipped?
 
He has to be running low on food. Even if he had a backpack stocked and possibly broke into some cabins in the Ingalls Creek trailhead area to steal something to eat, he can't possibly have enough to keep going like this for weeks. I doubt he's catching small mammals or fish because that'd require cooking and a campfire would be hard to hide.
It was mentioned that he lived off grid in the wilderness previously, once for 2.5 months. Sorry I can't find the exact post, but that information is from this thread
 
it is, but one would imagine there would have been much planning beforehand and more importantly, food supplies and clothing/footwear. We do not know what, if anything TD had with him. From the reports from the manhunt, it would appear that the person spotted by the hiker/s was ill equipped?
I still don't think the person they saw is him.

I've lived in my car before. When your car is your home usually all or most of what you own is in it, including food, supplies, clothes/shoes.

A lot of ultralight hikers look "ill equipped," especially people doing long distance hiking. They often have small packs & wear only tank tops & shorts. And they tend to avoid conversation because they're in a hurry.

I've been in the wilderness and freaked out because I saw government drones. More than once. I didn't run, but was planning to if they got close to me! I wouldn't do that with a helicopter because I see them constantly living in a big city, but to me it's not a stretch that someone would run from a random plane getting close to them if they didn't know why it was happening
 
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