OR - Brooke Wilberger, 19, Corvallis, 24 May 2004 - #1

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  • #201
Oh My Gawd, You just won't believe what I heard on Northwest news from Seattle, channel 49 on cable TV in Portland.

Now I didn't know they were going to say this or I would have transcribed it down word for word. So this is just the jist of it OK.

LE has video of Mr Kim dressed in womens clothing and taped in a dorm room of a women's dormitory. They didn't say which school. That isn't all. They said he was very busy, in essence, during the filming of himself {evidently he set up the camera to film himself as they described it}, putting on {undies I guess}, playing with himself, using his senses of smell and taste! Gosh, that is all I can remember he said, I was in such a state of shock to read it! There was one more thing though - can't remember it.

This is one real sick puppy isn'e he. I am so glad he is off the street! They still don't have enough to charge him with her kidnapping.



Scandi PS: I'm not even taking the time to proof this so you get it right away! Phew! Just corrected it. LOL ;)
 
  • #202
scandi said:
Oh My Gawd, You just won't believe what I heard onNorthwest news from Seattle, channel 49 on cable TV in Portland.

Now I didn't know they were going to say this or I would have transcribed it down word for word. So this is just the jist of it OK.

LE has video of Mr Kim dressed in womens clothing and taped in a dorm room of a women's dormitory. They didn't say which school. That isn't all. They said he was very busy, in essence, during the filming of himself, putting on {undies I guess}, playing with himself, using his senses of smell and taste! Gosh, that is all I can remewmber he said, I was in such a state of shock to read it! There was one more thing though - can't remember it.

This is one real sick puppy isn'e he. I am so glad he is off the street! They still don't have enough tio charge him with her kidnapping.



Scandi PS: I'm not even taking the time to proof this so you get it right away!

What a freaking sicko. :sick: :sick: :sick: :loser:
 
  • #203
scandi said:
Oh My Gawd, You just won't believe what I heard on Northwest news from Seattle, channel 49 on cable TV in Portland.

Now I didn't know they were going to say this or I would have transcribed it down word for word. So this is just the jist of it OK.

LE has video of Mr Kim dressed in womens clothing and taped in a dorm room of a women's dormitory. They didn't say which school. That isn't all. They said he was very busy, in essence, during the filming of himself {evidently he set up the camera to film himself as they described it}, putting on {undies I guess}, playing with himself, using his senses of smell and taste! Gosh, that is all I can remember he said, I was in such a state of shock to read it! There was one more thing though - can't remember it.

This is one real sick puppy isn'e he. I am so glad he is off the street! They still don't have enough to charge him with her kidnapping.

Scandi PS: I'm not even taking the time to proof this so you get it right away! Phew! Just corrected it. LOL ;)

Scandi. Corvallis police Capt. Robert Deutsch said Wilberger's purse, keys and other personal items had been left in her sister's Corvallis apartment and the missing woman's car was still in the parking lot. A piece of clothing belonging to Wilberger was found in the complex's parking lot, he said.

Wilberger, who was working at the apartment during her summer vacation, was cleaning the bulb covers of the tall lamps that line the complex's parking lot Monday morning when her sister left for a few minutes, Deutsch said.

When the sister returned, Wilberger was nowhere to be found. Along with her purse and keys, Wilberger left her flip-flops behind, Noble said.


Do you think that she, Brooke may have been on a ladder......while she was cleaning the bulbs.....this report say's cleaning bulb covers of tall lamps!
I don't quite know how she could do this without being on a ladder.........also doesn't state what the piece of clothing belonging to her was that they found in the lot.! This Kim guy could have been driving around or just parked in the lot waiting............saw her cleaning the bulb covers and ask's her is he could help...........then she come's down off the ladder and he grabs her.........No one around, nobody saw anything.
What are your thoughts?
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  • #204
Hi Mama,

Yes, it certainly would make sense, wouldn't it. Wouldn't take but a flash of time to grab her, and with his car right there he could throw her right in, lock the door and drive away!

He probably would have to subdue her somehow so she wouldn't start screaming. What do you think, from behind, reaching around and clamping his hand over her mouth?


By the way, last night I watched every news channel on the 11 'clock news. The same man who had said the things about Kim in my above post still gave a special report on most of the programs. He was a psychologist of some sort that deals with sexual pervs like Kim. He said Kim could be the kind that is not violent, or the opposite. They need to study him to see what his personality disorder really is. But the interesting thing is it was only the first report I heard that included the particulars that were specific in nature about what he was doing in the video. On every other report these things were not mentioned. Amazing! Someone stopped him right in the quick after it was seen on that Seattle station. Glad I saw it when I did.




xoxoxoxo Scandi
 
  • #205
thanks for the update Scandi! i hadn't heard anything about that - you have a special knack for catching these news reports before they decide to pull them!! all i can say is eeewww, eewwww, sick!!
 
  • #206
Hi Anne,

I couldn't believe the guy was so graphic, especially down to 'taste and smell'! It was a bit too much for the general public, but again like the article I read on the guy who walked into the bar and told the bartender he sure looked like the guy, these are probably slips by the media. When they hear something I wonder if they need to get approval for publishing by the agency in charge of an ongoing investigation?

I'll see if there are any new links tonight, even tho I know you would have picked up on them.


xoxox
Scandi
 
  • #207
Hi all! I'm new here and found this site when I was reading about Brooke elsewhere.

I don't know the area at all, but I've been looking at detailed topographical maps and was interestd to see that the OSU Experimental Farm is just over the river from Corvallis. The area contains several lakes, gravel pits with some sort of workings (could these be mines?), a water tank and even a well. And all in easy striking distance of Highway 34. I doubt you need a 4 wheel drive to get to some of them. Does anybody know whether the farm area's easily accessible? If Kim is the abductor, he seems to have researched the OSU so it's possible he knows all about this place.

Alternatively, slightly north there are more interesting features. Where the Southern Pacific railroad meets Interstate 20 around Granger, there are four apparently easily accessible gravel pits with workings plus two sand and gravel pits which may not be so easy to get to.

On the other hand, if it is Kim and he wanted to keep Brooke close at hand, I can see three gravel pits in the Durham area, not far away from Tigard High School.

Does anybody know if any of these area have been searched? I haven't kept up with exactly where the searches have been.

annemc2 said:
i didn't realize how often storage facilities are used for nefarious reasons - i guess just about anything can be.

This may be following a case in the UK, where a murderer stored his victim's body and visited it often (for "unspeakable" purposes according to the press) before disposing of the remains.

Oh well - boringly got to go to work now. Much rather be here!

Scorpion
 
  • #208
this farm area, is that a area that is for college training on agriculture and so forth. if it has not been searched then it should be, the perp could very well be that kim fellow, or any creep that goes to college there would know of the farm, and could even be enrolled in a course at the farm and would know it well, if it is isolated or has isolated locations that would be a prime area of interest. especially the wells. how far from where brooke went missing is the location of the farm? if the perp assulted her, and then killed her, maybe that would be a place for him to dump the body.
 
  • #209
I have heard weeks ago that all the Corvallis Police had to go on was a pair of flip-flop sandals and a bucket of water. It occured to me that since the work that Brooke was doing was toward the back of the apt. complex, that probably the laundry room was also closer to the back than the front. If I needed to get a bucket of water, I would most likely go to the deep sink in the laundry room (assuming the laundry room has a deep sink) or I might look for a hose bib and hose. Sometimes hose bibs are too low to the ground, and the bucket can't fit under it to be filled. At any rate, the bucket of water didn't drop out of the sky. She got it somewhere, and she may have gone to refill it, and the inside of outdoor lamps can be pretty grungy.
Meantime, if Kim, and I stress if, was in the laundry room looking for panties and lint, he may have offered to help her carry the bucket or something like that. Knowing what we now know about him, he is grotesque and disgusting, but to my mind, if we didn't know that stuff, he looks like a pretty decent guy, and at 10:30 in the morning, somebody that for all Brooke knew, lived in the apt complex offering to help her with something, or just saying good morning, may not have been very suspicious at all for Brooke. Remember, she didn't live in that complex all the time. She just stayed with her sister and brother-in-law who managed it. She probably would not have known who belonged there and who didn't. Also, Kim may have walked over. There is another complex nearby, in fact probably more than one. There is Reser stadium with big parking lots. There is a baseball field with parking in back of it that lines up with the apt. complex, and there is a new Hotel, whose parking also lines with a fence. I may go browse around and see if there is a gate or anything through the fence from those places to the apt. complex.

Also, I can't remember the name of the girl that Kim was interested in that supposedly looks a little like Brooke. Do you suppose she lives or lived at Oak Park and Kim was looking for her when he found Brooke? Or did she live in a dorm? The police have been very quiet about her. She probably feels absolutely awful and also scared.

Isn't there something people can put on a handkerchief and hold it over someone's mouth and render them pretty helpless? That would be easy to conceal under a little pile of laundry.

Even if Kim did drive right into the complex, it is pretty darn quiet in daytime. I actually drove in the driveway one day, and saw only one person about to get in a vehicle.

As far as places to hide Brooke, there are a jillion creeks and rivers, and quarries, and storage units, and some abandoned houses, deep woods, country roads galore. It would not be hard to drive a few minutes in any direction and be pretty remote. Kim seems pretty nervy, perhaps he didn't even try very hard to hide her. Maybe the chance of getting caught turned him on.

Most of the time I have been thinking that Kim actually went in a girls apt. or room and stole her panties. It seems that most of the time, anyway, that he just used a laundry room. A lot less chance of getting caught.

Where is newsperson?? :0)
 
  • #210
:blushing: Many years ago, I was quite naive and wanted everybody to like me. I had a garage sale in Tulsa, OK, and a young man called about my sale. I was knocking myself out trying to be nice to him and oh so helpful. He wanted to know if I had any used underwear, like nightgowns or panties? I thought it was odd, but I figured maybe he couldn't afford new. Anyway I said, "No, most people don't sell used underwear at a garage sale." I'm not cracking a smile or anything, because I am taking him dead seriously. He said, "Why do suppose that is?" I am embarassed now to admit that I still was being helpful to this guy. "I said well, they're personal and they get stained and worn when they are used, and most people wouldn't want them used." He said, "Well what do you do with yours when it is stained?" I said I throw it away. He said well, do you know where I could get some? I said, well, you might try Goodwill. Some people donate things that are like new there. He said thanks. If he was trying to get a rise out of me, it didn't work, because I was so dense that I probably wasn't much fun for him. I told some friends about the strange call I got and they laughed at me and said, "You got a PRANK call, and didn't even realize it." You should have hung up. Anyway, knowing what I know now, what if that creep had come over to my garage sale and harmed me or my kids in some way? As an aside, and certainly if Kim is guilty, it doesn't apply, but I have heard that usually transvestites and panty fetishists are not necessarily into harming anyone at all. Anybody know the latest psychological opinions on that? Thanks everyone for the interesting posts.
 
  • #211
IndigoFalls said:
Isn't there something people can put on a handkerchief and hold it over someone's mouth and render them pretty helpless? That would be easy to conceal under a little pile of laundry.

Are you thinking of chloroform?
 
  • #212
amandab said:
Are you thinking of chloroform?
Yes, exactly. I would say it was on the tip of my tongue, but that might be a groaner of a pun. Is chloroform readily available at a pharmacy, or at someplace that sells supplies for chemistry students? What did Kim study in school, or did he go to college?
 
  • #213
dannyodie said:
how far from where brooke went missing is the location of the farm?
Not far at all, by the look of it - particularly to anybody with a car. Here's the link to the maps I used:

http://topozone.com/

If you blow the map up to its largest at 1:50,000, you'll see the farm is literally the other side of the Willamette. Go east one block and you should see the well right at the top of the map, although there's no indication of whether it's capped or not. I haven't got round to looking at the satellite images so have no idea what they show. The only other well I've found so far is at Government Camp, but that's probably too far away and obviously I've not covered every single inch of the area. I have no information about this farm - what it's used for, whether it's restricted access etc etc, but hopefully somebody here will know.
 
  • #214
IndigoFalls said:
As far as places to hide Brooke, there are a jillion creeks and rivers, and quarries, and storage units, and some abandoned houses, deep woods, country roads galore. It would not be hard to drive a few minutes in any direction and be pretty remote.

True, but a lot of the creek and rivers don't appear to be very easily accessible by car and that is what I was specifically looking for and assuming there was some pressure of time on the abductor. I don't believe it's that easy to carry a body very far or coerce a panicking and unco-operative victim over long distances. I imagine that whoever did this had some sort of plan and would have scouted out possible locations which might be of use to them.
 
  • #215
July 2, 2004
Court Documents Show Kim Had An Arsenal

PORTLAND, ORE. - As Sung Koo Kim continues to make courtroom appearances in several different counties, new details are emerging about what investigators found in his home - this time a sizeable gun collection.
Kim was in a Washington County courtroom on Thursday to face some of the most serious charges against him to date - 16 counts of downloading and possessing child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.

"It doesn’t look like these are images he created, it looks like these are images he acquired. How he acquired those - we don’t know," said Washington County Deputy District Attorney Jeff Lesowski.

In addition, court documents detail the kinds of weapons investigators say Kim had in his home - assault rifles, handguns, thousands of rounds of ammunition, a bulletproof vest and a gas mask.

Kim has already been indicted for stealing thousands of pairs of women's underwear from several colleges in the Northwest.

On Thursday, prosecutors brought forth evidence of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 seized from Kim's computer along with pictures and a videotape of Kim wearing women's underwear.

"Believe it or not, some of those images, as disturbing as they might be, it is not illegal to possess them if it as adult consenting to the act," Lesowski said.

Even so, Washington County prosecutors said Kim's indictment is one more reason why he is dangerous and his bail should be increased.

"He already has posted $150,000 in cash. How much more money there is, we don't know," said Lesowski.

Prosecutors strongly believe he is a threat to society because of the seizure of weaponry at his home on May 13, and the photography of mutilated women. His bail amount has been increased to $1 million.

Corvallis police have also said Kim is not cooperating with their investigation into the Brooke Wilberger case. Officials say Kim will only speak with his family.

KATU was told that Kim has been on the list of suspects in Brooke's disappearance right from the beginning, yet there has not been enough evidence to tie him to her case.

"Mr. Kim has by far been on the list the longest," said Captain Jon Sassaman. "So we know he's been to the apartment complex yes, but that doesn't mean he did it."

It has nearly been a month and a half since Brooke disappeared from her sister's apartment.

Corvallis police continue to search for clues, which include searching abandoned buildings and storage units between Tigard and Corvallis. So far, 40 persons of interest have been ruled out.

http://katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=68829
 
  • #216
If he's not cooperating with police in Brooke's case, then that is a HUGE red flag!! An innocent person, no matter how perverted in other ways, would want to cooperate and get themselves ruled out, IMO.
 
  • #217
This guy just gets creepier and creepier, scarier and scarier.

Even if he isn't responsible for Brooke's disappearance (though I'm seriously thinking he is), I'm glad he's in custody and off the streets.
 
  • #218
Morning guys,

Off to work, but wanted to thank you for the update. I havn't seen many commercials lately about Brooke on TV. That is not good.

So when the psychologist was talking about whether he is a loner in his perversive ways sexually or possibly violent, it looks like this answer might be viiolent. Not cooperating, shots of mutilated women in his posession and a small arsenal in his home would lead one to believe he looks very dangerous.

I guess his family follows Confuscious saying - 'See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil' - as he is their son. They must have ignored any signs out of respect for him as their son. Amazing!

I still feel two things strongly. That his sister knows what he is all about and has covered for him and that he easily accessed all of these dormitories dressed like a woman.


See you tonight!
xoxoxo Scandi
 
  • #219
as most of us remember, when the perp was apprehended in dru's case,the perp in that case also did not cooperate with police. anyone that has nothing to do with a crime I feel would certainly want to be cleared. I feel the more they look into this mans past the more they will find. this man is not only a threat to woman, but could be one that would cause great harm to a child. who knows.,maybe he has already kidnapped and killed a child., maybe some of the missing kids cases in a 100 mile radius of his home can be linked to him? maybe thats why he is affraid of cooperating with police. I feel that this person is a good suspect and not just the ole " person of interest " has any of the farm land,wells,ponds,and ditchs of the university property been searched that any one is aware of ? what kind of area does he live in? wonder if his father is anything? the below is just jmho,and not intended to offend anyone
 
  • #220
Hi Danny,

That post couldn't offend anyone! LOL I am now calling NEWSPERSON :D For a little bit of inside track!




Scandi
 
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