OR - Eldon Smith, 4, dropped from bridge, Portland, 23 May 2009

  • #61
That poor little girl..what horror..no wonder she couldn't stop screaming.

Why didn't you just throw yourself in the river lady?


Hi Browngirl, I had to drive past the Sellwood bridge tonight to get my grandaughter and looked up at the height of that bridge from my car and tears just started running down my face.

I'm not usually that emotional, but this is one time when I believe the only justice will be an eye for an eye. It won't happen, because we llive in America and not Iran.

I don't think any amount of physical or mental abuse, or feelings of helplessness or dire straights could ever justify shoving your 2 little children off a bridge ever ~ much less in the dark of night with a 75' freefall where one would hit the water like a ton of bricks. If they end up putting her in a mental facility I will be very angry at our Justice system. xox
 
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Hello from the southern end of the Willamette River! I just found out about this case when I woke up this morning and I am SO MAD! Oh my gosh! The west side of our town IS the Willamette and I'll tell you what, I won't even swim in it when its 100 degrees outside! It is COLD!

This "mom" needs to serve her sentence SITTING IN THAT RIVER!
 
  • #64
Couple who found children in Willamette recall moans, noises08:45 AM PDT on Tuesday, May 26, 2009http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_052609_news_willamette_river_kids_rescue.1990211d.html
 
  • #65
God bless that little girl, I hope she makes a full recovery. That 🤬🤬🤬 so-called mom deserves to rot in hell, she tops the evil scale.
 
  • #66
There is no way this 🤬🤬🤬 should EVER see freedom again. Hopefully they will leave her cell door open for a few minutes when she gets to prison.
 
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God bless that little girl, I hope she makes a full recovery. That 🤬🤬🤬 so-called mom deserves to rot in hell, she tops the evil scale.



I heard on the news tonight her little brother most likely died on impact , hitting the water as he did.

I think one thing the mother did is put life jackets on both children. Most people here in Oregon have lifejackets for when they go to the pool or the parks on the rivers around. In my minds eye I can not imagine them being found right together like that after over an hour unless they had jackets on and tied together. I think the weight of him after death was starting to pull her down which is why she was fighting water. Her chin in fact was under water acc to the man who rescued her.

I think they popped up to the surface almost right away as the people heard screams for quite awhile. Even after the police and FD arrived on scene, they still heard screams. She was having trouble keeping water from going in her mouth when found. How could she have laid on her back all that time.

Well, I don't know, we'll have to wait and see. I am so thankful she is doing better today. All Good after everything she has gone thru. I hope she doesn't remember any of it. IMO

xox
 
  • #70
Trinity, that is her name just linked above. God Bless her and please help her heal. She is a survivor for sure :blowkiss:
 
  • #71
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/05/authorities_court_records_indi.html

Nasty custody fight preceded Sellwood Bridge tragedy

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According to court papers, Jason and Amanda Jo were married in Hawaii April 29, 2001. They lived in Tualatin before separating in September 2008. Jason Smith left their Tualatin home last September, and the children remained with their mother until around Feb. 10, according to court papers. The mother's account said Jason Smith and his mother took the children from her home to Eugene to stay with them.

On March 20, Stott-Smith filed a petition for legal separation. She also asked the court for an order to get her children back, noting that she never gave their father permission to move the children and she had not been allowed to see them.

In court papers, she described herself as a stay-at-home mother, who had walked her daughter to and from Byrom Elementary School in Tualatin every day, and took her 4-year-old son to Living Savior Lutheran Church and Preschool from 9 until 11:30 a.m. each weekday.

She wrote that she fed Eldon lunch and played with him in the afternoons until she picked up his older sister from school and often took them to the library. "I cared for the children 24 hours a day," she wrote.

On March 23, three days after Stott-Smith filed for legal separation and argued for the return of her children, a Washington County judge issued what's commonly referred to as a "status quo order." The ruling, made without input from the father, ordered that the children remain in their "usual place of residence" until custody is determined.

On April 6, with that court order in hand, the children's mother, along with her sister and Eugene police, took the 7-year-old girl out of Eugene's Meadowlark Elementary School. The 7-year-old girl was removed from class and left the school grounds with only her coat and backpack, according to a school employee's account in court records.

On April 8, the couple's daughter attended one day of first grade at Concorde Elementary School in Clackamas. According to court papers, Stott-Smith said she was homeless and living with her parents, and told a Concorde school employee that the girl's enrollment was to be kept secret because she didn't want the girl's father to know.

Meanwhile, Jason Smith obtained a lawyer to petition to return the children to Eugene.

Schantz, the father's lawyer, argues that Stott-Smith obtained that April court order under false pretenses. Schantz said Amanda Jo Stott-Smith had agreed with Jason Smith before he took the children to Eugene that their children would live with him, although that was never written down.

Once their mother took the children out of Eugene, the father's lawyer said she prepared to take the mother to court and point out those "inaccuracies" in the mother's argument, but a settlement was reached, Schantz said.

The mother's attorney, Michelle van Grunsven, declined comment Tuesday.

On April 21, a judge ordered the two children returned to their dad in Eugene. Stott-Smith was given parenting time every other weekend, starting at 7 p.m. on Fridays until 5 p.m. Sundays, with the right to call her children every night. It was to be a temporary order until the legal separation wound it's way through court.

"It is in the best interests of the children that their current school schedule not be disturbed at this time," the judge wrote.

Tuesday, in Eugene's Norkenzie neighborhood, residents said they often saw the children playing at the home of the paternal grandparents, Christine and Richard Duncan.

"They were two of the most beautiful children I've ever seen," said Linda Baker, who lives next door to the Duncans. "Polite, bubbly, sparkly - just happy, happy children." The Duncans appeared to be helping Jason Smith care for the children, Baker said. The children were at the grandparents' home quite often, sometimes daily.

At Jason Smith's apartment about a mile away, a neighbor said he'd met Smith briefly after moving in a few weeks ago. The neighbors said he saw the children playing outside the apartment recently, perhaps on Friday, but otherwise saw or heard nothing unusual.

The April 21 order did mention the possibility that Stott-Smith's time with her children could be extended in the future. If the temporary order remained in effect through the summer, the judge suggested the parents enter into mediation and arrange "extended summer parenting time" for the mom. If Stott-Smith were to move to Eugene, the judge wrote, Stott-Smith could also have mid-week visits with her children, and/or provide after-school care for them.
 
  • #72
BTW, Eugene is about 120 miles south of where this crime took place. I live near Eugene and Scandi lives near the bridge.
 
  • #73
BTW, Eugene is about 120 miles south of where this crime took place. I live near Eugene and Scandi lives near the bridge.


Hi Kimster and thanks for the great article which explains allot.

So it would seem this mother simply flipped at the difficulty she was having in the custody battle, not wanting her ex to have the upper hand of control, probably feeling the court was siding with him.

It could be she failed to see the fact the children might have a better life if they lived primarily with the father. Drugs and drink change one's judgement, and over time one might not be able to see the forest thru the trees, so to speak.

I guess she figured the only way to get back at this threat of not being able to have control and primary custody of her children was to take them away from him forever with their deaths. Unbelilevable, isn't it.

I think I read he has a past with drugs too. And it seems the extended family of grandparents was the only real solid thing these two children really had. Yes, both parents loved them but evidently their own weaknesses were detrimental to the children.

I qualify that about the father as I haven't read much about him. It was first off when I read he had problems in the past too. Maybe he had turned his life around.

xox
 
  • #74
Hi Kimster and thanks for the great article which explains allot.

So it would seem this mother simply flipped at the difficulty she was having in the custody battle, not wanting her ex to have the upper hand of control, probably feeling the court was siding with him.

It could be she failed to see the fact the children might have a better life if they lived primarily with the father. Drugs and drink change one's judgement, and over time one might not be able to see the forest thru the trees, so to speak.

I guess she figured the only way to get back at this threat of not being able to have control and primary custody of her children was to take them away from him forever with their deaths. Unbelilevable, isn't it.

I think I read he has a past with drugs too. And it seems the extended family of grandparents was the only real solid thing these two children really had. Yes, both parents loved them but evidently their own weaknesses were detrimental to the children.

I qualify that about the father as I haven't read much about him. It was first off when I read he had problems in the past too. Maybe he had turned his life around.

xox

I hope you are right, Scandi! His daughter needs him more than ever now! :blowkiss:
 
  • #75
For sure Kimster, she walked out of the hospital today after 7 days and is home in Eugene tonight with her father.

There will be a memorial service this weekend for little Eldon. No link yet I can find.


Happy news to see this very grownup and brave girl is doing so well. On the news tonight they said she did everything right. :blowkiss::blowkiss:
 
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Another case of a mother killing/attempting to kill her own children, this time because she lost custody of them (and apparently rightfully so!) Before reading Websleuths, and I know this sounds very naive, I really thought that most people were ultimately good at heart. Unfortunately, I now think otherwise, and with more and more of these incidents happening every single day, I'm beginning to think the reverse. In my angriest, craziest moments I couldn't even imagine hurting my cats, much less my children if I had any. What do you all think? Is this woman going to try for the insanity defense? Sending positive, healing thoughts to the little girl, and to the little boy as well, may he rest in peace.
 
  • #78
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/04/amanda_stott-smith_plea_sellwo.html

Amanda Stott-Smith pleads guilty to drowning son, attempting to drown daughter

"Nearly a year after Amanda Jo Stott-Smith was taken into custody in a downtown Portland parking garage, the 32-year-old woman pleaded guilty Tuesday in Multnomah County Circuit Court to the drowning death of her 4-year-old son and attempted drowning of her 7-year-old daughter.

Stott-Smith will be 67 before she will be eligible to apply for parole, under a negotiated plea deal that avoids trial in a gut-wrenching case that gripped the community...."

more at link
 
  • #79
i said this before on emmas case.

take the age the boy was. add his life expectency, then give the murderer the diffrence, what she took from him
 
  • #80
Stott-Smith told investigators that she dropped both children off the bridge in an act of revenge against their father, Jason Smith, who was her estranged husband. She believed he was having an affair with a family friend. He had gained custody of the two children a month earlier, in late April 2009.

Why, why why must the children suffer??? She did this for revenge against the father. What a waste of a human being she is!
 

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