GUILTY OR - Isabella Smith, 2, killed, 13yo injured, Cannon Beach, 31 July 2014

[swedie]

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Smith-Protection-Order_Redacted.pdf

what, exactly is a "life threatening affair"?

How is it different from the affair she had in 2001?

Quite possibly in an affair where someone's life was threatened?

Page 6, question #29. Do you have any evidence of the harassment or stalking conducted other than testimony? She checked off YES, checks off text messages and social media messages (phone), then proceeded to write under OTHER: Husband of lady he had a dangerous affair with. Letters.

Also disturbing I will add are notes JS included; physical and verbal abuse of pets in front of herself and children, reckless driving, threatened to use firearm upon self approximately 1999, AS begged for restraining order due to lack of being able to trust from past experiences and being forced to have contact with him. Sickness in child due to extreme fear and anxiety.

We'll have to wait and see how this plays out. MOO.

 

[jmcgladr]

Quite possibly in an affair where someone's life was threatened?

Page 6, question #29. Do you have any evidence of the harassment or stalking conducted other than testimony? She checked off YES, checks off text messages and social media messages (phone), then proceeded to write under OTHER: Husband of lady he had a dangerous affair with. Letters.

Also disturbing I will add are notes JS included; physical and verbal abuse of pets in front of herself and children, reckless driving, threatened to use firearm upon self approximately 1999, AS begged for restraining order due to lack of being able to trust from past experiences and being forced to have contact with him. Sickness in child due to extreme fear and anxiety.

We'll have to wait and see how this plays out. MOO.

It really seems that she was throwing everything she could at her ex to see what stuck. This is not too uncommon, especially with mentally unstable and/or vindictive ex-spouses. I tend not to believe the allegations. Possibly, she really did believe what she was saying, but it was due to the filter of anger and fear, in part due to her alleged trauma growing up. I believe she was imposing feelings on the kids which they really didn't have. The judge saw through these allegations, and didn't approve the restraining order, as you can see from the link provided.

 

[forthelost]

Then mom was so protective of the girls, that she killed one and tried to kill the other.

I don't consider murder to be protective.

 

[Lovejac]

Quite possibly in an affair where someone's life was threatened?

Page 6, question #29. Do you have any evidence of the harassment or stalking conducted other than testimony? She checked off YES, checks off text messages and social media messages (phone), then proceeded to write under OTHER: Husband of lady he had a dangerous affair with. Letters.

Also disturbing I will add are notes JS included; physical and verbal abuse of pets in front of herself and children, reckless driving, threatened to use firearm upon self approximately 1999, AS begged for restraining order due to lack of being able to trust from past experiences and being forced to have contact with him. Sickness in child due to extreme fear and anxiety.

We'll have to wait and see how this plays out. MOO.

I see what you're saying, but even if there was proof of all of her accusations, it still does not give her the right to suffocate/strangle her 2 year old and try to stab to death her 13 yo.

IMO JS is a deranged and vindictive spouse who wanted to make her husband 'pay' for having an affair even though she was forgiven by him for having one in 2001.

If GS was the monster that she tried to claim, then why did he forgive her for her affair? Why did she stay with him and then go one to have 2 children with him? They same 2 children that she wanted dead 13 years later?
.

 

[strawberry]

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...2014/08/cannon_beach_killing_jessica_s_6.html

So the thirteen y/o never went to school or registered as homeschooled. Dad worked two jobs to make $200000? Wasn't $100000 enough? He had a pHd but allowed his kid to not be schooled? Odd...and he worked 6 days a week. I bet mom has been brainwashing her kid for years!

 

[Linda7NJ]

It falls apart. Her target wasn't her husband.

 

[strawberry]

It falls apart. Her target wasn't her husband.

What do you mean by this?

 

[al66pine]

I don't consider murder to be protective.

re your response to my post about-
Mom claiming to be terrified by Dad's physical abuse of her & DDs, but
then being so protective of them she killed one, tried to kill the other.

Sorry, I should have added an explicit - sarc note - to my post.

At time, I'm puzzled wondering if a post is sarc or serious.
My apologies for not being clear.

 

[swedie]

I see what you're saying, but even if there was proof of all of her accusations, it still does not give her the right to suffocate/strangle her 2 year old and try to stab to death her 13 yo.

IMO JS is a deranged and vindictive spouse who wanted to make her husband 'pay' for having an affair even though she was forgiven by him for having one in 2001.

If GS was the monster that she tried to claim, then why did he forgive her for her affair? Why did she stay with him and then go one to have 2 children with him? They same 2 children that she wanted dead 13 years later?
.

BBM Respectfully, did I say her actions were right? Just pointing out what may have caused her to do such a horrid thing to her own defenseless flesh and blood; her two daughters. IMHO there is always two sides to every story and somewhere in the middle lies the truth. We will obviously have to wait to get the bigger/fuller picture to find out what pushed her over the edge. Battered Wife Syndrome, a psychiatric disorder, maybe she intended on committing suicide herself but could not follow through. Time will tell. MOO.

A couple interesting articles. MOO.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/revenge-and-despair-place-children-at-risk-20120203-1qxlt.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battered_woman_defense

 

[newone]

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...2014/08/cannon_beach_killing_jessica_s_6.html

So the thirteen y/o never went to school or registered as homeschooled. Dad worked two jobs to make $200000? Wasn't $100000 enough? He had a pHd but allowed his kid to not be schooled? Odd...and he worked 6 days a week. I bet mom has been brainwashing her kid for years!

Why didn't the dad insist on his girls going to school? Certainly he had benefitted from education and wouldn't he want the same for his daughters??

 

[SStarr33]

Why didn't the dad insist on his girls going to school? Certainly he had benefitted from education and wouldn't he want the same for his daughters??

I don't think we know that they were not getting schooling.

 

[newone]

I don't think we know that they were not getting schooling.

from this link father claims girls were isolated and did not attend day care or school
It just seems odd to me that a man who was making a decent income would not have ensured his daughters were being educated.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...2014/08/cannon_beach_killing_jessica_s_6.html

 

[Ellmau]

Sounds like paranoid delusions to me.

 

[SStarr33]

from this link father claims girls were isolated and did not attend day care or school
It just seems odd to me that a man who was making a decent income would not have ensured his daughters were being educated.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...2014/08/cannon_beach_killing_jessica_s_6.html

I know, I read it, and it says this:

The family did not file a petition with the Goldendale school district to homeschool the girl, as Washington rules require of homeschooling families each year, but it is possible the girl was taught at home anyway, Hackbarth said.

 

[minor4th]

Just started reading up on this case today. Here's my impression from the documents and articles I've read:

This woman is a textbook borderline personality disordered individual. She killed her kids to hurt their father, who had successfully obtained a court order to prevent mom from moving away with the children. She was actively trying to alienate the children from their father - first by trying to move away until the court ordered her to stay put, then by trying to get a restraining order keeping the father away from her and the children. Her restraining order was denied by the court on July 18.

The next hearing was scheduled for August 6, at which time the father probably would have been given primary custody of the children. The mother was not about to let that happen so she killed the kids to deprive the father of getting them.

 

[Linda7NJ]

What do you mean by this?

If she feared for her & her children's safety and welfare, she would have killed her husband. IMO

She tried to kill both of her children to hurt him.

 

[minor4th]

If she feared for her & her children's safety and welfare, she would have killed her husband. IMO

She tried to kill both of her children to hurt him.

Exactly.

She certainly didn't fear for her children's safety. Her petition for a restraining order doesnt even allege any physical abuse or anything other than the father refusing to engage with her when she wanted to relentlessly rant at him.

 

[tiredblondy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-old-severely-injuring-teenage-daughter.html





What is wrong with this woman? Look at those precious children, to think she killed the little one and tried with the older one......she must be mental!

 

[tiredblondy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-old-severely-injuring-teenage-daughter.html

The US Coast Guard have released video of the minutes before and after police detained Jessica Smith, 40, who is accused of murdering her two-year-old daughter and critically injuring her 13-year-old daughter in Oregon last week.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-injuring-teenage-daughter.html#ixzz39lCxRmUB
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

 

[tiredblondy]

The one where she's smiling makes me feel ill. How could anyone smile or look at peace when they killed their 2 year old and seriously injured their teenager? This woman was an evil shrew.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no...medium=twitter

I agree and I personally don't think she should have one minute freedom again ever.