GUILTY OR - Kelsey McCune for kidnap, rape of 13yo girl, Oregon City, 2013

[margarita25]

I don't know if anyone cares, but I see "pedophilia" thrown around a lot in these discussions about teenage girls. Pedophilia is actually specifically about the sexual interest in pre-pubescent children, not post-pubescent teenagers. This is its own type of -philia, still disordered and illegal (when acted on), but it's not pedophilia.

Anyway, I'm curious as to how LE was able to get a warrant on this guy for kidnapping. It makes me think they have some evidence we don't know about to indicate she's being kept from returning home against her will.

I'm not sure where people are getting the idea this guy is dim-witted. Do we know anything about his wits? He seemed smart enough to tell her to not bring her phone, to delete messages, and to lure her away from her totally unknowing family. He is apparently a computer genius. I hope he didn't plan this well, and that he is dim-witted, so S. can be found safe, but I don't see anything to indicate he is.

Thanks for the clarification! So, what type of "philia" would it be called for a 13 year old?

 

[nevereverever]

Thanks for the clarification! So, what type of "philia" would it be called for a 13 year old?

Pedophilia -pre-pubescent, generally 11 or younger (tho some extend it up to 13)
Hebephilia - generally 11-14
Ephebophilia - generally 15 and up

 

[los2188]

For me, using the term pedophilia was a lack of a better word. I presume it's referred to as statutory rape in her case? Is that correct ladies?

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[nevereverever]

For me, using the term pedophilia was a lack of a better word. I presume it's referred to as statutory rape in her case? Is that correct ladies?

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Well, pedophilia is a psychiatric term, not a legal one. Statutory rape is the legal term sometimes used. In Oregon, sex with a child under 14 is 2nd Degree Rape, the same as sex with someone by forcible compulsion.

 

[Ransom]

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Anyway, I'm curious as to how LE was able to get a warrant on this guy for kidnapping. It makes me think they have some evidence we don't know about to indicate she's being kept from returning home against her will.

Please read this for 2nd degree Kidnapping:
http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/163.225

 

[shefner]

I don't care what we call it, its wrong. Its the sexual abuse and kidnapping of a minor child.

 

[Grower]

What kind of "phillia"? Easy ... its called Sicko. Freakin jerk! Take her home now!

 

[nevereverever]

Please read this for 2nd degree Kidnapping:
http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/163.225

I've read it. I was the one who first linked it.

 

[Ransom]

I've read it. I was the one who first linked it.

lol. I know that. I wanted you to re-read it in light of:

http://www.kgw.com/news/Oregon-city...on-may-be-with-40-year-old-man-234489711.html

Because they certainly did issue the warrant for 2nd degree. What changed? Maybe, just maybe, good LE work with her computer, cellphone search and recovered those "deleted" messages we heard about here:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1312/05/ng.01.html
:seeya:

 

[southsleuth]

IMO S. is a child who needs to be home. No excuses or reasons or whatever is going in on his twisted brain. Dude is bad news. What has he done before?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

IMO S. is a child who needs to be home. No excuses or reasons or whatever is going in on his twisted brain. Dude is bad news. What has he done before?

Per MSM... McCune's criminal history includes reckless driving... And attempted burglary... (Daily Mail article of 12-6-13)...

But I can't help thinking he has taken similar actions with other girls as he has with S... But he just didn't get caught... Or he just didn't take it as far...

JMO

 

[MsFacetious]

Mariha Trenice Smith was abducted by a family friend and murdered in an abandoned house.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146591&highlight=mariha+smith&page=2

I can also think of a few cases of children and adults who were found ALIVE in abandoned houses. :twocents:

To add to your list...

A vacant house near Sierra LaMar's house MAY hold some evidence in her missing case...

A little girl was snatched by a neighbor... taken to a vacant house down the street... and murdered... (Sorry... can't remember the name... but is was a WS case...)

Dorner... the serviceman/policeman who went on a shooting spree in CA...holed up in... and was shot in... a vacated (or seasonal) camp in the mountains...

JMO

 

[mck16]

So, she has been found? ty

Missing 13-year-old Ore. City girl found after 5 days.

 

[mck16]

http://www.kgw.com/news/Oregon-city-...234489711.html

Open this link and then look to right for the story that says missing Oregon girl missing 5 days has been found.

 

[La Louve]

Here's a better link:

http://www.kgw.com/news/Crews-resume-search-for-missing-13-year-old-Oregon-City-girl-234914531.html

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Here's a better link:

http://www.kgw.com/news/Crews-resume-search-for-missing-13-year-old-Oregon-City-girl-234914531.html

S. D., a missing 13-year-old Oregon City girl, was found in good condition in a wooded area north of an Oregon mobile home park Saturday evening, deputies said.

 

[sophiebelle]

http://www.kgw.com/video?id=234914531&sec=547647
Found in the woods in Oregon near trailer park. I'm so glad!

 

[nevereverever]

Oh, good! Glad she is safe.

 

[azure]

Nevermind! I was so late! Glad she's safe!!

 

[mck16]

Thank you. I thought it was a conspiracy as I could get nothing to work. So, she had been found. ty