OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #1

[scandi]

I'm going to bed holding the thoughts of the Sheriff in my heart. That we need to keep hope up that Kyron will be found. He was so positive and I think that speaks to the energy everyone is putting into the case - 14 different agencies I heard are involved. xox xox

 

[RubyRed]

Geesh...how did I miss this article?

"Details emerge about the day Kyron Horman turned up missing "

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html

AHA...details emerging... I haven't finished reading the article posted at June 05, 2010, 11:21PM

Thank You for posting that. That is a very informative story. The family sounds very loving and she has raised him as an infant,she was there to meet him at the bus stop and panicked when he didn't get off the bus. Now I am worried more than ever for Kyron because I think some creep lured him out of the school.

 

[pdxmama]

Geesh...how did I miss this article?

"Details emerge about the day Kyron Horman turned up missing "

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html

AHA...details emerging... I haven't finished reading the article posted at June 05, 2010, 11:21PM

Thanks for posting this, it clears up a lot of questions.

"Terri often volunteers at the school, working closely with Kyron's teacher, Kristina Porter. Shelby said that Porter saw Kyron in her classroom with his stepmom before 8:45 a.m. and another instructor reported seeing him in another classroom at some point.

At 8:45 a.m. when the bell rang, Terri walked her stepson down the hall close to his class.

'He told her, "I'm going back to the classroom, Mom," and she waves to him and left," Carol Moulton said. "She thought he was safely at school just like he is everyday.'

This is still confusing me though:

"Carol Moulton said the kids were supposed to report to their classes and be divided into small groups of a few students each. Each group was supposed to tour the science fair with a chaperone. Afterward, when they returned to their classes for roll call, Kyron wasn't there, she said."

We still don't know if he was ever with one of the small groups touring the fair we just know that he never made it back to the classroom. This seems like information that they probably have already and just aren't releasing. It seems like the school would easily be able to tell LE who the chaperones were.

More info about the parents:

"Kyron's biological mother, Desiree Horman, and his father were officially divorced in February 2003, according to Washington County Circuit Court records.

Carol Moulton said that Kaine, 36, and Terri, 40, have been together for seven or eight years and that they have been married for four or five years. The couple have an 18-month-old girl.

'Terri has raised Kyron,' her mother said. 'She's been with him since he was an infant. She's as much of a mom as the mom is because the parents had separated about the time that Kyron was born.'"

The article also says that Terri is the one that called 911. She went to meet Kyron at the bus stop and the bus driver told her that he wasn't on the bus. She ran home called the school and found out he had been absent and immediately called 911.

 

[darlin gal]

Gang...

I'm starting to feel some real hope in how I am seeing Terri in her FB.

Someone smiled and said they couldn't quit poking, with a smile

Terri responds with "I know - I think it's addicting."

These responses, feel to me like those of someone who feels like LE has the situation in total control AND it is maybe just a matter of minutes, or hours until they cinch things.

I could not imagine even feigning the comfort of a happy face under these circumstances, so I am thinking (and very much hoping) that this ends soon with very good news for Kyron.

I just see her smiley faces and comments as trying to put on a brave face to all her friends and well wishers. JMO

It is probably good for her to get her mind off the situation for a few minutes and wind down. It's important to take time away from it just to keep sane.

 

[Wrinkles]

Well...it's late...

I would love to have the comfort of knowing that a few mere happy faces and a "type of response" (like I felt at FB) were indicative of something hopeful (securely hopeful) being known, not just holding a brave heart.

On the other hand... If that child were heading to class, might he have headed to the bathroom first? I hope they have checked the ceilings in the bathrooms, if they are the type that you can push up (like tiles). I do NOT want him found in a ceiling (that doesn't bode well). He is also a very small child...I hate to think of the trash containers in the bathrooms -- or some of those big trash carts that janitors push. No no no...

I prefer to live in denial at this time, and hope for the other scenario...or something equally safe to his physical/mental well being.

 

[annalyzer]

And the birth mother gets Kyron every couple of weeks so I don't see why she'd take him. Still haven't heard where the toddler was that morning.

 

[Wrinkles]

Hi Darlin gal...

We were writing at the same time I almost used the term brave face, then chose brave heart

You could be right...

 

[darlin gal]

Re the photos at post #358: Who is Leslie Liden, and why is her tiny home getting this thorough third-party search treatment? I thought police were asking people to search their *own* homes and properties. That house is tiny, and if it's been occupied by Leslie and her baby since Kyron went missing, he could hardly have gotten inside without her knowledge. Is she someone they have reason to suspect would be deliberately concealing him? Odd . . .

They did a door-to-door search at the houses surrounding the school. I imagine they (LE) asked if they could search in the houses.

 

[KeenEyes]

Geesh...how did I miss this article?

"Details emerge about the day Kyron Horman turned up missing "

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html

AHA...details emerging... I haven't finished reading the article posted at June 05, 2010, 11:21PM

Maybe this was already hashed out in the thread and I missed it, but this article clears up the mystery of their arriving at school early to view science fair projects at 8ish, but the school day itself not starting until the odd time of 10 a.m. According to the article, school opens at 8:35 and final bell rings 10 minutes later at 8:45.

Although the school usually opens at 8:35 a.m. and the final bell rings 10 minutes later, the school opened as early as 8 Friday for the science fair, said Matt Shelby, spokesman for Portland Public Schools.

Also, the breaking up into groups led by a chaperone (adult?) didn't occur until after the stepmom had left and the students had gone to their homerooms for the official start of the school day—which is not how it was reported initially, or at least not how I understood it.

Shelby said that Porter [Kyron's teacher] saw Kyron in her classroom with his stepmom before 8:45 a.m. and another instructor reported seeing him in another classroom at some point.

Was roll call prior to the children touring the sci fair in groups? The teacher saw him earlier, wouldn't she wonder why Kyron was suddenly absent. If roll call followed the group tours, again, how could the teacher not notice he didn't return to the class after the group tours?

 

[kbl8201]

ok i am going on record as saying i dont think the parents or bio mom were involved.

it would also appear that he didnt just 'wander off'.

this leaves 2 very disturbing possibilities. he was either snatched by some predator lurking at the school unoticed or someone working at the school is involved. i surely hope they really checked, double checked, and triple checked every employee.

 

[Donjeta]

If the stepmom left Kyron to go to his class at 8:45 and the classes didn't start until 10:00 there's more than an hour for him to get bored and talk to somebody and figure out, hey, there's lots of time to go out with him, I'll be back for my class in time.

 

[dreamweaver]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html

Moulton doubts Kyron wandered off on his own. It's just not in his character, she said.

"He's a little bit dreamy. He's a sweet kid. He gets distracted. He's your typical second-grader," she said.

But he's no Huckleberry Finn.

"He's not real adventurous," she said. "He's a little timid. But if a friend wanted to go outside and look at something, he would follow the friend. He has a friend who he regularly gets in trouble with in the classroom because he talks too much."

Moulton said Kyron will not even venture far from his home in a wooded area.

"He won't get out of sight of the house," she said. "He's pretty insecure about that. So I can't see him wandering off."

more at link.........

Kyron does not appear to be the kind of child who would stray from the rules and what he usually does.

The police will be conducting interviews at the school on Sunday a.m.
They invited all parents, employees and those at the school Fri.

I am hoping there is a clearer picture of what happened to Kyron by the time interviews are completed.

His school is K - 8, so there could be a 15 yr old who is a bully or has problems of some kind?
Kyron has an older brother, maybe this person could be someone well known to Kyron.
I guess I am thinking he has been abducted by a known person.

 

[KeenEyes]

If the stepmom left Kyron to go to his class at 8:45 and the classes didn't start until 10:00 there's more than an hour for him to get bored and talk to somebody and figure out, hey, there's lots of time to go out with him, I'll be back for my class in time.

I have also seen 10:00 several times and still don't know from where it came, except that perhaps it was confused with "10 minutes later" which is actually the late bell at 8:45.

Although the school usually opens at 8:35 a.m. and the final bell rings 10 minutes later, the school opened as early as 8 Friday for the science fair, said Matt Shelby, spokesman for Portland Public Schools.
—http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html

S/BBM

 

[pdxmama]

I have also seen 10:00 several times and still don't know from where it came, except that perhaps it was confused with "10 minutes later" which is actually the late bell at 8:45.



S/BBM

It's my impression that actual class started at 10am that day because the students were in small groups viewing the science projects from 8:45 until then. The thing that is still unknown as far as I can tell, is whether Kyron was in one of those small groups but never made it to class or if he was already missing by then.

 

[pufnstuf]

Here's how the school's morning schedule was to go.

8:00...kids get to school to set up science fair projects. This is when Terri made the photo of Kyron that we've seen several times.

8:45...kids must be in their homerooms to divide up into groups of five, each with an adult chaparone, to be led around to the various classrooms to look at other science fair projects. (At Skyline, school begins at 8:45 every day.)

10:00...kids back to thei homerooms to begin class for the day.


After Kyron and Terri got his project set up, they walked around on their own and looked at some of the projects, and then he said he was going back to his room (as expected at 8:45), and as he headed back to his room, she said bye and left. That was the last time she saw him.

 

[Donjeta]

So they should know if Kyron was touring the projects with his chaperone from 8:45 onwards?

 

[pufnstuf]

So they should know if Kyron was touring the projects with his chaperone from 8:45 onwards?

Yes. But I haven't seen anything to indicate that he did. (Hope I'm making sense... just woke up out of a dead sleep, nightmares.)

 

[butterfly1978]

Okay so if I understand this correctly the school has kids from K-8 grade, which is 5 year olds to 14 year olds. Have they checked the school completely? could an older kid have locked him in a closet somewhere thinking it was funny or put him in a locker, and now with all the police and everything is scared they will get in trouble? It being the end of the year kids are rambunctious, they also play practical jokes. I just hope they have thoroughly checked every room, closet, locker, garbage can, in the ceiling everypart of the inside of the school.

 

[cluciano63]

I have not been able to sleep, partly because of this little boy...was tossing things around in my head all night (all 3 hours of it) and nothing makes sense. Kids in that type of a setting, especially these days, are wiser about even talking to people they don't know, much less leave a building with them. I don't think a kid can get past aged two without being full of warnings about "bad people" or strangers. A shy kid even more. So to me it seems like stranger is almost out of question as he surely could not have physically abducted him against his will in the school without being seen/heard, IMO. Does this only leave someone he knows? Or could he still have wandered out of the building for some reason? Parents say things about their kids, and mean them, but kids are still kids...

 

[lalalemon]

The bio mom would have had enough time to get home again with Kyron (been reported she lives 6 hours away) before he was reported missing. But she would have had no way have knowing it would take that long for him to be reported missing....

Also living so far away she may not have even know that there was a special event going on at school. Although it looks like this little guy was really passionate about his project, so he may have told her and have been wanting her to come see it?

Just thinking aloud and MOO.