OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #10

[pufnstuf]

Watch the video again, (post #9) and look at 3:59-4:04.

Thanks! I've been trying to find that video. Grrr.

Gonna go look now.

 

[Jaxson]

Portland leads the U.S. in the trafficking of children, # 1.

Seriously? Wow I did not know that. No one has mentioned this as a theory either. I need to think about that.

 

[scandi]

UPDATE KOIN 6pm News



Search expanded again with police now going door to door in Yreka Ca.



PS: I thought they ruled out those sightings :waitasec:

 

[nomoresorrow]

My understanding is the bio-dad of the step brother requested that - right?

Kyron has a step brother (Terri's older son- who does not live with them, and he has a different dad than Kyron.)

It was Kyron's own father, Kaine, who asked LE to search that specific horse pasture;

(BBM)

She said in addition to those areas, searchers also have responded to requests from Kyron’s father, Kaine, about areas where the boy may be, including a horse pasture in Banks, which was searched Sunday.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/ground_search_resumes_this_mor.html

 

[pdx]

Portland leads the U.S. in the trafficking of children, # 1.

That was on the scanner? My!

 

[cluciano63]

KPTV has an article about those sighting in Ca being false...

 

[BeanE]

Thanks! I've been trying to find that video. Grrr.

Gonna go look now.

Not sure which video you're looking for, but I've posted most of the significant ones are in the media thread, if that helps.

 

[Emma Peel]

I finally figured out today who the LE step parent was in this group. It’s the bio-mom’s husband! So, that says something to me - that the LE parent is also standing as a united family member.

IMO Tony looks like he might be the one holding this extended parent group together in this time of serious distress. I'm thinking he's been of good counsel to them. I'm thinking he's been protective. And he might be media-wary. I watched him @ the PC too. It seems to me he's not really worried about Terri. He is devoted to his wife Desiree, and he's clearly supporting Kaine (the hug). Likewise, I saw Terri supportive of her husband and Desiree.

I actually watched the PC six times, on a large screen, in silence. Every time I watch it, I felt better about this group and each person's genuineness. (Many times - other cases - every time I watch I feel worse!)

I do see Terri as the more animated - but she's also more engaged in what's going on around her - she's more aware of all the others. I see her checking to see the other three are right. I see her hand move supportingly to touch both men's backs just as they walk up to speak. I see her protect and comfort Desiree when Desiree's husband must leave Desiree's side. I see Terri and Desiree move together to stand as one and I actually see Desiree lean into Terri, responding as much, possibly more to Terri's arm around her as she responds to Tony's arm around her. To me, Terri seems an observant, demonstrative, caring, expressive caregiving type of person. Desiree is clearly distraught here, and seems fragile, quiet and private. I saw Terri show caring, deference, respect and support for Desiree while Desiree's husband was up talking about Desiree's missing child. I felt like Terri "got" that this was Desiree's baby and Desiree was the fragile mom. Terri seemed to stay pretty strong for them all until her husband was done speaking, and he was ready to comfort her. Terri checked his face to see if he was okay, then she gave in and put her head on his shoulder and kind of fell into him a bit, and he responded tenderly. Both women stood with a self-protective arm/hand posture. Both women hung on to their arms as if trying to just stay standing. Terri with one arm crossed over holding her other arm. Desiree never breaking the hands clasped with stiff arms in the front. That's protective body language - they both had it. Both showed some anxiety. Desiree focused inward, Terri focused outward on others.

I think Kaine hasn't slept yet. He looked much older than 36 to me. Kaine broke my heart because he had that overwhelmingly forlorn look I've seen in my own relatives when my strong rational guys lose it and finally fall completely apart. I be he's been working like a dog all week, no rest, and he just came up for air to have to tell the world this is the beginning of the 2nd week his son's been missing.

Oh yeah – the blinking. One time through I did watch Terri's blinking as other suggested. She did have a blinking attack! (also anxiety) But, if I focus on the blinking, I miss what Terri's actually doing though. Even though she's anxious herself, she's still worried about the others. That's a little long, and I know others saw different things.

I just wanted to share a bit of what I saw with this heart wrenching press conference. I really studied it and tried to see what everyone else might be seeing too. I have concluded that we each read people based on our own personal observations, culture and experiences, to some degree.

I have no expertise or training - just a bit of life experience. And these are just my impressions from today. As usual, I reserve the right to change my impressions upon getting more input, in particular, factual information.

I think I'm glad I got to meet some of Kyron's family finally. I feel I know him a little bit better now. That is somehow comforting.

 

[DairyGirl]

Watch the video again, (post #9) and look at 3:59-4:04.

I noticed that at the time. She seems to be rolling her eyes when the LE is talking. I kind of took it as looking to God maybe?

 

[hoppyfrog]

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The reasons vary, but admin has good reasons for this.

Thanks!

 

[raeann]

Another student's mom was quoted saying Kyron was supposed to appear in the Talent Show.

ETA: “Schreiber said Kyron was supposed to perform in the school's talent show at 1 p.m. but she didn't see him there.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/still_no_trace_of_kyron_horman.html

Since they did not quote her exact statement, we don't know what that was, therefore her statement is an interpretation of what the reporter understood. If she said he was supposed to be in the talent show, it is just as likely she meant a full class performance as it is that he was to be IN the gym to watch the talent show. That statement is just RUMOR as are all of the other statements we have heard until verified by LE.
There has never been a confirmation from LE of any sort regarding the talent show. This is just a re-hash of an issue we have gone over a thousand times. As of yet, I haven't seen any logical reason why it makes a difference one way or another if he was or was not in the show. Nor does it matter if the SM was going to watch it or not. Perhaps she was perfectly logical in that she saw no reason to keep a child up from a nap to watch a one or two minute class song that she could have a solo performance of at home an hour later.

jmoo

 

[TakeNote]

KPTV has an article about those sighting in Ca being false...

all the sightings or just the Wallmart one?

 

[mamaeb]

http://www.kgw.com/video?id=96164844&sec=547977
ok, at about -3:50-3:45

he says something like they spoke with motorists today between 8-10am who may have been on the road when kyron was on the way to school and who may have seen anything suspicious

 

[Recovering-Lurker]

Is it possible that Kyron forgot something in the car, ran out to get it just as SM was leaving, and there was an accident? Just throwing ideas out there.

 

[Pensfan]

I noticed that at the time. She seems to be rolling her eyes when the LE is talking. I kind of took it as looking to God maybe?

Watch the father's expressions and eyes.

 

[Mandy113]

It seems logical to me working on the theory Kyron wandered off, LE would ask the parents where his favorite places were, what did he enjoy, where did he like to go, etc. So that's what I take from the comment about the father's "requests" to search various places.

I also don't find it odd there have been people interviewed "multiple" times. I'm not sure it means they are actually a suspects but LE & Kyron's family are desperate for answers. Sometimes it's about the questions you ask. It might jog someone's memory & they'll find a new clue.

I have no idea what happened to Kyron. I'm still praying for miracle.

(apologies if I'm simply repeating someone else's opinion here)

 

[cluciano63]

It's hard to read too much into the press conference...it's been 8 days since Kyron went missing and usually we see parents right away or within a day or so, and get gut reactions and emotions that are the initial ones while they are just learning that child is missing...so if someone is a good actor, for example, they have had time to come off in a certain way. I'm not taking anything from that PC, except that Kyron's Mom does not seem to like the step-mom, IMO. That could be for a number of reasons, but for me, I would find it hard to be around her when LE has not ruled anyone out yet.

 

[Jaxson]

Watch the video again, (post #9) and look at 3:59-4:04.

I do this when I cry. Keeps my contacts from washing out and tears from running sown my face. Blinking at the same time as I roll my eyes up. Flushes the excess wateryness around the back of my eyes or something. Don't really know how to explain it. Also when my eyes are very dry with contacts in it helps to keep them from folding up and popping out. Anyone know if she wears contacts?

 

[mamaeb]

I noticed that at the time. She seems to be rolling her eyes when the LE is talking. I kind of took it as looking to God maybe?

yes, idk. maybe

at about 4:00-4:02 it almost looks like the dad says something to her and she rolls her eyes.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huW1p1RovQY&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

 

[pufnstuf]

I checked out the horse pastures by looking at all that I could find in Banks, ORegon, which is pretty close to Portland.

What I found is that there's a large pasture with a riding stable there that provides therapeutic riding for children with special needs. Here's their website:

http://www.beatriding.org/

A description of what they do:



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B.E.A.T. Riding Center, Inc. is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization that exists to provide physically, mentally and emotionally challenged individuals an opportunity for emotional and physical growth through horsemanship. BEAT's home is at Horsin-A-Round Stables 20 miles west of Portland in Banks, Oregon.

(name removed) and (name removed) founded BEAT in 1997 when they were inspired by the dramatic physical and cognitive improvements made by Bradley, a student with cerebral palsy and learning impairments, through horse back riding. Phyllis and Jackie wanted to start a program that could help others reap the benefits from therapeutic riding.
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When I found it, I didn't want to post about it--but I am now because we're discussing it again. The big question I was left with is--was Kyron eligible to ride at BEAT? I know that some people have opined that he appeared really small for his age, and when I saw photos of him by other children his age, I agree that he's a small little guy. Some people said that ADHD medications can cause slow growth as a side effect...

At any rate, here it is... this is all I found in Banks.