OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #16

[seeking truth]

The sheriff's dept has a 24/7 liason with the family.

And...the liaison is a Police Captain.

 

[heartfortruth]

Seems all pic's of Kyron he is alone, except one with who I think is his older brother. The one of them playing in the leaves. Almost every pic I have of my children at school have students and teacher's in the background or at their desks somewhere in the class room. Even all the pic's of him at home he is alone. I understand not wanting to show others , but it just seems odd he is alone in so many even eating at the table and on his what I believe are family outing's. The pic with his science project is in an other wise empty classroom. Not any pic's of him and his parents. Probably just me, but it seems odd!

there was one other picture, IIRC, where he and another boy were in the "animal teeth /mouth" , but I suppose, as you alluded to , it is best if family/ friend photos are kept out of the public view.
But something keeps coming back to me , as hard as I try to ignore it , and it is that big grin of his (reminiscent of Caylee's "say cheese" photos) in nearly every picture when he knows he is being photographed and how he looks so different (at least to me) when he is not giving his big grin for the camera. I just went back over as many pictures as I could find.
Probably just his budding personality trait and my imagination;
I forgot to THANK all the kind / smart folks who posted photos and links.......as always, you "guys' amaze me

 

[carole]

Sorry, I am speaking about his right arm ( Not the arm behind his back) and the "shadowing" around it. Does that make sense? It does not look like a shadow, but almost looks like a cut and paste. Just odd to me as I have never seen that in any photo personally before.

The same sort of shadowing shows on the photo of just his project, so I would think it's some sort of flash thing that happened when the picture was taken.

It is photo #16 at this link --
http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10003676-16.html?tag=page

 

[impatientredhead]

Thanks for the response, JBean. I appreciate your thoughts and ideas about this situation with this family.

I'm not sure why I am having such a hard time with it. Your thoughts that they could be monitoring their behavior makes sense. I guess what I just can't seem to grasp is WHY this family is ok with LE moving in with them. Maybe, as some have pointed out, they want them there.

If you child was missing wouldn't you want the men who are closest to the information right there in your own living room?

The fact that they are comfortable with the police in their home 24/7 makes lose any suspicion of them I might have held (cynic that I am).

Picture the head of police wanting to camp out in the Anthony living room as they set up camp. Think they would have been welcomed? Think the info the family overheard would have been leaked immediately?

 

[Calliope]

Thanks for the response, JBean. I appreciate your thoughts and ideas about this situation with this family.

I'm not sure why I am having such a hard time with it. Your thoughts that they could be monitoring their behavior makes sense. I guess what I just can't seem to grasp is WHY this family is ok with LE moving in with them. Maybe, as some have pointed out, they want them there.

I'll go look for the presser where Gates goes into a bit of detail as to what the liason is there for... and what GrainneDhu posted above is a good point, too. The stepfather is a criminal detective, I'm certain if there was an issue with the liason being there he'd have no problem speaking up.

 

[carole]

there was one other picture, IIRC, where he and another boy were in the "animal teeth /mouth" , but I suppose, as you alluded to , it is best if family/ friend photos are kept out of the public view.
But something keeps coming back to me , as hard as I try to ignore it , and it is that big grin of his (reminiscent of Caylee's "say cheese" photo) in nearly every picture when he knows he is being photographed and how he looks so different (at least to me) when he is not giving his big grin for the camera. I just went back over as many pictures as I could find.
Probably just his budding personality trait and my imagination;

My younger son (now 30) was always a little ham. I have lots of pictures of him with his "photo op" grin. All anyone had to do was pick up a camera and he was ready!

 

[raeann]

I have lost track of the post where someone asked about the number of pictures where Kyron was alone.....in the link below he is with other family members or a friend in 32 out of the first 54 photos. The last 10 photos were taken after he was missing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10003676-64.html?tag=page;next

 

[Calliope]

And...the liaison is a Police Captain.

???

I don't get your point.

 

[Calliope]

I think it's a shadow on the tile floor from the morning sun slanting in the window.

My cell leaves odd shadows and such at times. My daughter's cell does too, but not as much. Her phone isn't as cheap as mine lol.

 

[Deeemdee]

For some reason I keep thinking of Ben Ownby. If the neighbor boy hadn't seen the strange vehicle, then LE would probably have never known if this was a stranger abduction, someone he knew, family member, etc.... There would have only been speculation.

I know that's different because Ben had just gotten off the bus and Kyron was last seen at school. But I think it's not impossible to think something similar happened to Kyron at school, and nobody noticed.

Mitch!!! God, I love that kid. Forever and always.
Yep, Ben's kidnapping would have gone down just like Shawn's but for Mitch.
BTW, with Shawn's, right in the middle of the kidnapping somebody drove by on a 4-wheeler. That person never noticed a thing. Not even with repeated door-to-door canvassing asking what vehicles they'd seen on that particular afternoon. It didn't register.

 

[Calliope]

YES, spending the night. This is what has been reported. This has been announced by LE spokesman during at least two press conferences.

Yes, they're working in shifts. I guess you've already seen the PCs then.

*whew*

wasn't looking forward to going through them all again LOL

 

[Donjeta]

I never noticed the people in the background of the frog photo. They could be identifiable by their clothing if someone knows them. If I was going to photoshop a picture I would photoshop one with no other people who can say, yes we were there but we didn't see Kyron.

 

[liz b.]

Does a "no comment " by LE mean just that ? I thought that it did not mean that a particular statement wasn't true,it just means that LE will not discuss it with the media, because it could jeapordize an ongoing investigation.

All JMO

 

[seeking truth]

I don't think it is strange at all. In other high profile cases of missing persons, the families have received death threats.

Looking at some of the commentators on other sites on the internet have written, particularly about the SM, well, all I can say is that I hope those people don't live anywhere near me because they are seriously scary people.

My impression is the LE is saying, in part, "don't any nutcases get any weird ideas, this family has constant protection."

It could also mean that the message is, along with what LE IS saying:

This is not a stranger abduction. This is not an abduction at all. Other children are not in danger from this perpetrator.

Maybe, just maybe, all the children are safe because LE is sitting round the clock with the person who caused Kyron to "disappear."

Just my thoughts and opinions. NOT an accusation, just speculation.

 

[TXHOPE]

Why would they provide a bunch of pictures of Kyron with other kids on the CBS link? We're looking for Kyron, other kids, family members in the pics maybe confusing. JMO

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Hey locals - was there anything new on the noon news out there?

 

[Dee10]

But being realistic, how long could LE stay with the Hormans? What if this goes on and on? I don't see how they can say they will be staying with them until this is resolved, unless they feel it will be resolved pretty quickly, JMO.

In the Somer Thomspon case, they had a round the clock liaison for 3 weeks. This was the longest period I had ever heard of.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

But - if the family is receiving threats and are on edge and afraid why wouldn't LE come froward and clear them publicly at least for safety reasons and to stop all this "internet" bashing and trashing?

Nope.
Somer Thompsons family received death threats the entire 4 months from abduction/arrest. They were never publicly cleared.

 

[JBean]

In the Somer Thomspon case, they had a round the clock liaison for 3 weeks. This was the longest period I had ever heard of.

Who was the perp in that case? Was that JH?

Seems to me they cover all the angles by keeping a liasion there.

 

[Calliope]

But - if the family is receiving threats and are on edge and afraid why wouldn't LE come froward and clear them publicly at least for safety reasons and to stop all this "internet" bashing and trashing?

Because it wouldn't.

They have their reasons. Maybe it's because a family member IS involved. Maybe they want the real perp to think they're looking at the family.