OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #16

[butterfly1978]

the abductor could make the child sit on the floorboard

but that would mean that Kyron would have either been snatched which would have caused a scene and someone would have noticed or that he was forced which he would have kicked screamed and yelled which again would have caused attention, or he was knocked out cold which means that the perp would have had to carry him which also would have caused attention.... JMO

So with that said he would have had to get in the car voluntarily not to have caused attention to himself and perp, which would mean he probably wouldnt be in the floor board. MOO!

 

[winterrose]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_vigil_draws_about.html

Those attending, including, for a brief time, Kyron's parents and stepparents, sang songs, read prayers and held white candles at Sunset Presbyterian Church, 14986 N.W. Cornell Road.

 

[PDXMom]

Oh!!

If one was to drive and visit all the locatations located on the map, how , long would it take?

Also to any local out there, IF you were going to drive to the search site of Suave, would you take a truck or a car? Are the roads rough out there?

I can tell you that we take a car to Sauvie Island. The main roadway is very smooth and well maintained. Anything off the main (Reeder) road is likely to be dirt or gravel roads, but mostly they are long driveways. The public beaches at the end of roadways are gated at dusk for the most part, and if you *really* want to go in after dark, you'd have to walk. That said, there are beaches and banks just along the side of the road too.

 

[Jaxson]

Maybe video was requested for those roads because the ones leading north are rural and would not have cameras? Nothing really there....

 

[nurseratchett]

Oh!!

If one was to drive and visit all the locatations located on the map, how , long would it take?

Also to any local out there, IF you were going to drive to the search site of Suave, would you take a truck or a car? Are the roads rough out there?

I wouldn't drive my sportscar. definitely would take a truck/SUV or older car.

 

[bernie40]

Also to any local out there, IF you were going to drive to the search site of Suave, would you take a truck or a car? Are the roads rough out there?

A car would be fine, a lot of people who live up there drive trucks, but cars do just fine - most of the roads are paved normally...

It would take about a half hour to get from Skyline Elementary to Sauvie Island, here's the route:
<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=11536+Northwest+Skyline+Boulevard,+Portland,+OR+97231-2603+(Skyline+Elementary+School)&daddr=Sauvie+Island,+Portland,+OR&geocode=FcDqtwIdwFqt-CGqLBlG9vLKginBGfok4waVVDFNzFyHxWOQ-A%3BFRiUuQIdxDOu-ClD9gLQa6uVVDFG3nA7tB_4hg&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=45.657728,-122.815475&sspn=0.124781,0.296288&ie=UTF8&ll=45.660607,-122.815475&spn=0.124774,0.296288&z=12&dirflg=d>

 

[Wendy101]

I do feel it's suspicious that SM's facebook barely ever mentioned Kyron or had any pics of him in the last 5 months, and then suddenly on June 4th she posted a pic of him at the science fair the SAME DAY. The teacher said that SM emailed her around that time as well to ask when they should pick up the science fair stuff. SM was playing games on FB around 3pm...and a couple hours AFTER she reported Kyron missing too? Wow. Rumor also has it that SM and BM are best friends, and that the family dynamics are EXTREMELY "different" and complicated, much more so than just the typical blended/step situation, perhaps that's why LE are staying at the house so much...

BBM:

Since we have been given the ok to talk about suspicious behaviour,can you please spill the beans on this suspicious relationship?

 

[Wendy101]

Since her FB is private. We can no longer discuss it here. Mods have made that pretty clear.

I think we have been given the ok to talk about suspicious behaviour...

 

[Soulmagent]

I think a county employee may be the abductor and some kind of container is missing and that is what they are looking for.
The neighbor may be a county employee. It is the only thing that makes sence. How would a random person know they didnt have camara's in the school? How would they know to look for a black bag or box? Do there county employees use white trucks? Maybe the dead end street was a meet up place. I hope the camaras reveal something and I hope they find Kyron. Jaycee, shawn ,ben ,shasta,and natasha give us hope that there is some hope.

 

[Pensfan]

. Rumor also has it that SM and BM are best friends, and that the family dynamics are EXTREMELY "different" and complicated, much more so than just the typical blended/step situation, perhaps that's why LE are staying at the house so much...

Respectfully shortened.
Maybe this accounts for the statement in Kaine's email.???
"Don't talk to the media if approached."

 

[Calliope]

but that would mean that Kyron would have either been snatched which would have caused a scene and someone would have noticed or that he was forced which he would have kicked screamed and yelled which again would have caused attention, or he was knocked out cold which means that the perp would have had to carry him which also would have caused attention.... JMO

So with that said he would have had to get in the car voluntarily not to have caused attention to himself and perp, which would mean he probably wouldnt be in the floor board. MOO!

*knocking on door just down from Kyron's class*

Hey, can you help me please? I'm late and I don't want my little boy to get in trouble because I forgot to bring his exhibit in. I have it over here in the car, it won't take but a minute if you don't mind holding the door open for me. Did you do an project too? What did you do it on? Frogs! How cool! Could you get the box out of the back seat? Yeah, that one on the floor there! Thanks!

*slam*

 

[bernie40]

but that would mean that Kyron would have either been snatched which would have caused a scene and someone would have noticed or that he was forced which he would have kicked screamed and yelled which again would have caused attention, or he was knocked out cold which means that the perp would have had to carry him which also would have caused attention.... JMO

So with that said he would have had to get in the car voluntarily not to have caused attention to himself and perp, which would mean he probably wouldnt be in the floor board. MOO!

Not sure he would've been kicking and screaming, as he has been described as a timid and shy child. Perhaps he would've done what any "authority" told him to do/

 

[butterfly1978]

Since her FB is private. We can no longer discuss it here. Mods have made that pretty clear.

We were told that we could discuss suspicious behavior, and one of the mods had asked a question about the site thats how this conversation got started, so I think we are okay unless someone tells us diffrently..... but dont take my word for it, just going by whats been already posted.

 

[butterfly1978]

*knocking on door just down from Kyron's class*

Hey, can you help me please? I'm late and I don't want my little boy to get in trouble because I forgot to bring his exhibit in. I have it over here in the car, it won't take but a minute if you don't mind holding the door open for me. Did you do an project too? What did you do it on? Frogs! How cool! Could you get the box out of the back seat? Yeah, that one on the floor there! Thanks!

*slam*

:sick:

 

[Calliope]

Most later model cars have childproof rear doors---I argue with my daughter over this all the damned time. She activates it so he can't open it from the inside. I think that's a major safety issue.

That's all the perp would have had to do to keep him from getting out. Or... the back of a van or covered pickup.

 

[DairyGirl]

Not necessarily a bad thing though. My ex SIL (I divorced her brother) had an affair with the husband of a couple that her and her husband were good friends with. Both couples stayed together and seperately divorced a few years later. SIL ex married the other guys wife and all four kids call the all mom and dad and SIL since remarried and they are all good friends. Bowl together, dinners and BBQ's etc. They are grown ups and don't need to hold grudges or hang onto old issues. I am friends with both my ex's and my ex in laws and so is my current husband. In fact we live next door to one of them.

My boyfriend's cousin's husband met a woman on the internet and married her. Then the cousin met that woman's ex husband on the internet and married him. Talk about confusing for all the kids.

 

[mamaeb]

I am sorry but I think it is suspicious that none of her status messages involved Kyron, they involved one of her other children.. I looked all the way back to the day she opened her account.

There was ONE status AFTER Kyron went missing that involved his name, but that main purpose of that post was to tell friends how her daughter was reacting to Kyron missing.

Then she closed her facebook to public, so I have NO CLUE what was written after that day.

you don't have to be sorry.
I was just just pointing out something I saw was not accurate ....the pictures, so that others don't read that and go off and repeat that thinking it's true.

 

[Calliope]

:sick:

I know.

Ever read 'gift of fear', where he describes how predators get their victims off-balance? I'd imagine the same could apply to child predators too.

Little kids love to help out. They hate to see others 'get in trouble'. Etc.

I can see that scenario or similar happening that day.

 

[winterrose]

When you upload pics to a FB album,you have an option to "publish" or skip.If you publish,they go on your home page,but if you skip they go just on your album.If your album is set to private,even if your fb is public,only friends or you can see them.It's however you have it set on.

 

[bernie40]

Another thing I just don't get (and I'm sure this has already been discussed) is WHY the family said "don't listen to the media" and DIDN'T get on camera RIGHT AWAY and as much as possible to say "PLEASE help us find our baby!!" etc.! It almost seems like they are protecting each other in some weird way...