OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #2

[Snoopster]

Wonder why she would write more than once on her page, not to believe what you hear in media? What are we hearing that she would not want us to believe?

I thought that was odd too. I don't mean to pile on the SM, but I'm just feeling a bit uncomfortable with a lack of comment from Kyron's bio parents. Why isn't is dad in the media, pleading for his return?

I also wondered why TMH's 16 yo son didn't live with her. One possibility, though, is that all of his friends and social connections are in the Roseburg area. Perhaps he doesn't want to live in Portland?

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Something else I noticed while looking at step-mom's Facebook...

It does NOT appear out of the ordinary for her to post pictures of Kyron from his school events on the same day they happen. I don't think her posting his science fair picture was any sort of alibi-in-the-making. She also has one from May that she uploaded the same day that he was doing a play about Oregon Settlers.

 

[STEADFAST]

Not the cat, the little sister...I guess her nickname is Kitty. At least, I don't think the cat is getting hugs and reading Kyron's books... but then again you never know. :waitasec:

Now I get it. :doh:

That's kind of worse, though. I mean the post is sort of an "isn't that cute?" thing, instead of a doubling over with the sad pathos thing.

 

[DairyGirl]

Something else I noticed while looking at step-mom's Facebook...

It does NOT appear out of the ordinary for her to post pictures of Kyron from his school events on the same day they happen. I don't think her posting his science fair picture was any sort of alibi-in-the-making. She also has one from May that she uploaded the same day that he was doing a play about Oregon Settlers.

Which makes me more curious why she didn't plan on attending the talent show.

 

[annalyzer]

Yeah and right after that remark was that damned smiley face again. That comment (according to FB) was 3 hours ago today.

What does the stop poking comment mean? And she put a thumbs up for the comment and said i think it's addicting. What is addicting?

 

[cluciano63]

No I don't think it is unusal she posted the photo right away, per se, as she seems to be on FB a lot. She plays all of those games on there, etc...the only thing I find strange, really, is the part about not believing what media is saying...when they really are not saying anything at all that I have seen, certainly nothing controversial.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Unfortunately, the scenerio with the step mother is the only one that makes sense right now. Until we know more, which LE doesn't seem to even know right now. Two things stick out to me. One, she is a fan of CSI, which might give her more knowledge to get away with things, knowing about evidence and what LE would first look for. Leaving him at school, having a picture and witnesses that saw them there yet no one saw her (or him leave). Also, and this may be a stretch, but what I was thinking when I read her Facebook today was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Münchausen_syndrome_by_proxy. Like I said, it's a stretch but she seems so calm and collected and kind of relishing in the attention?

Wait...wait. So, being a fan of CSI makes you more likely to be able to get away with a crime? I'm a huge fan of CSI, Bones, Without a Trace, etc. But I'm fairly certain I couldn't get away with shoplifting without looking guilty. And I'd be willing to bet that most criminals have never seen an episode.

 

[pufnstuf]

This is what first made me start to wonder about her:

May 21: T. claims she went to the daycare at the gym to pick up her daughter, and a "seven-year-old" was shutting the door to the play area where the baby was, which made her fall down and cry. She says that the kid was "smirking" until she hopped over the gate and got in the kid's face about how to treat little kids.

Her story has more embellishment, but when I saw "seven-year-old," I immediately wondered if it was her stepson and if there might be some problems at home with Kyron acting out against the baby.

Just thinking out loud.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

What does the "can't stop poking" comment mean? And she put a thumbs up for the comment and said "i know i think it's addicting". What is addicting?

There is a tool on Facebook where you can "poke" someone. They will get a notification on their page that you "poked" them, and they can then chose to "poke" you back. I guess it's a habit for some.

 

[Dragonfly1971]

I'm a little confused about why the teachers/faculty thought Kyron left school early? Do they know who claims to have heard the stepmom or Kyron say anything about leaving early? Since the Stepmom didn't call 911 until he didn't get off the schoolbus it doesn't make sense that she told a teacher that he'd be leaving early. It also doesn't make sense that if after noticing his backpack was left at school that someone didn't think to themselves "how odd that Kyron's Stepmom forgot his backpack when she picked him up?"
(Sorry if this is confusing...I guess that's a reflection on how many odd details there are in this childs disappearance :smile

I think stepmom planned to stage the school morning to make it appear she left him there, in the hallway as she claims. Leaving his backpack was to add to that, just like her posting of his pic with his project on FB. Cover her tracks and make it look as if he were abducted right out of the school by someone. His teacher was not certain that he wasn't present until AFTER the class toured the other project displays in chaperoned groups, because she didn't call roll until then. Stepmom said she took him herself to view the projects that morning... then said goodbye in the hall. http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html

 

[pufnstuf]

Guys... just a reminder so that we can continue to discuss the facebooks...

Don't mention children's names if they aren't in the media, and don't post direct quotations.

Not trying to be a mod, but I see a lot of stuff with potential to be discussed and don't want us to get shut down for breaking rules.

 

[DeeMarie]

No I don't think it is unusal she posted the photo right away, per se, as she seems to be on FB a lot. She plays all of those games on there, etc...the only thing I find strange, really, is the part about not believing what media is saying...when they really are not saying anything at all that I have seen, certainly nothing controversial.

Agreed-
Also If she thinks there are untruths that are being said -which could jeopardize brining Kyron back safely, why doe'nt she get off her computer and address the media?

 

[CharlestonGal]

I'm confused about all this talk of step-mom! Why would she go to all the trouble of packing Kyron's awsome science project, help him get it in the school, help set it up, stay with him while he answered questions, be seen walking him toward his class-room - only to what? Do him in? Please someone - help?

I think people are intimating that SM set things up to make it look like she left Kyron at school before he disappeared so that it leaves SM far from the scene of the crime, so to speak. Then I guess it would follow that SM herself disappeared him on purpose after taking him from school after making it look like she left him at school.

I think.

 

[tarabull]

Terri has posted on her FB (2 hours ago) that if you live in the Roseburg area, please contact her liaison.

:waitasec:

 

[Angel4u2Whisper2]

I just wanted to say I understand that there are profiles and norms of what we think of when we think of criminals. Statistics say that most children are abducted by someone that they know. I do not know the exact statistical information.

I just would like us to ask ourselves the following question, what is a "perfect family" and a "perfect parent" look like? and why do we think that they couldn't do anything wrong. Pretty people, rich people, educated people...professional people. The first thing we think of is ugly, poor, mean unemployed xyz people only do bad things. This of course is not true. Jus saying. We can't rule anyone out because of how they appear to be. ya know?

 

[Kimster]

MySpace and Facebook:

Do not quote entries. You can refer to them like you've been doing, but do not quote them.

If the Facebook is private, we can no longer discuss it except for what is on the first page. I noticed that you have to be a member of FB to view the mentioned pages and that is okay, but if it goes private and you have to be a "friend" to view the pages, discussion of the profile will need to stop.

And it is correct, we do NOT discuss minors. :nono:

And we do NOT sleuth anyone who is not named in the mainstream media or named by LE.

Remember this: we do not have a POI in this case. And we need to be mindful that everyone is innocent at this point. Put ourselves in their shoes.

:grouphug:

 

[No More]

I'm confused about all this talk of step-mom! Why would she go to all the trouble of packing Kyron's awsome science project, help him get it in the school, help set it up, stay with him while he answered questions, be seen walking him toward his class-room - only to what? Do him in? Please someone - help?

Just an observation from looking at the picture of Kyron and his science fair project:

Look at Kyron's frog poster board compared to the science poster board from another child (to the right, same picture). It is obvious the one on the right was made by a 7-year old. IMO to me it is obvious that Kyron's was made by his SM or an adult, although Kyron probably helped. Could it be that she took the picture and put it on her FB because she was proud of it? That could be related to her participating in the science fair but not the talent show.

Also, didn't she say that Kyron wanted to show her his science project? But didn't she "help" him make it? I don't get it.

 

[cluciano63]

I just wanted to say I understand that there are profiles and norms of what we think of when we think of criminals. Statistics say that most children are abducted by someone that they know. I do not know the exact statistical information.

I just would like us to ask ourselves the following question, what is a "perfect family" and a "perfect parent" look like? and why do we think that they couldn't do anything wrong. Pretty people, rich people, educated people...professional people. The first thing we think of is ugly, poor, mean unemployed xyz people only do bad things. This of course is not true. Jus saying. We can't rule anyone out because of how they appear to be. ya know?

So true. Have no idea what has happened to this little boy, but the fact that his stepmom keeps has family photos on her page and all looks Brady-bunch-like means nothing either way. It's completely possible they are a truly successful blended family and it is, unfortunately, statistically possible that someone in his family has harmed him. No way to know, until he is found or an offender is located.

 

[DairyGirl]

I am sorry if I implied that any one is guilty. All I know is that LE looks at family first in cases involving children. That is the most obvious place to look. Right now we have no direction at all. It's like the child just disappeared into thin air.

 

[pufnstuf]

Terri has posted on her FB (2 hours ago) that if you live in the Roseburg area, please contact her liaison.

:waitasec:

Speaking of Roseburg--made me think of this post:


June 1: She posted that she has a black cousin in Roseland who's married to a black man and they dropped their kids off at grandma's. Then they went to 7-11 and were beaten up by a gang when they came out of the store, leaving them with a broken hand and a broken nose. Police haven't found the gang yet, and she can't do anything to help from a distance.



She seems to have increasing drama in her life.