OR - Militia members occupy federal building in Oregon after protest #2

[Dr. Know?]

Thanks! So it's actually clips he posts. I was picturing something real time. Interesting stuff. They so naively believe what they say. I almost feel sorry for them. They work on a 12-year old level.

Some have been live. This morning was live.

 

[bluesneakers]

Sean is saying don't fire at the drone as intel says there are snipers just waiting for them to shoot it so they can shoot them.

Now DF...babbling about Hillary, CIA and so on.

They really have a problem with the Clintons, especially Hillary.

#Benghazi

 

[Donjeta]

http://koin.com/2016/01/30/malheur-occupiers-all-of-us-out-or-all-dead/
Sean Anderson, who is at the site with his wife, Sandy, and two others, says: “We’re waiting for our miracle. If this doesn’t wake America up, I don’t know what will.”

Sean Anderson, who is from Riggins, Idaho, goes on to say that he and the other occupiers are heroes. “Think about the Bible and all the heroes came from the bottom. We were just four drunks, we don’t have any military experience, and now we’re the shining stars,” he said.



At one point in the broadcast, Sandy Anderson says: “It’s either all of us out or all of us dead.”

 

[Fairy1]

http://koin.com/2016/01/30/malheur-occupiers-all-of-us-out-or-all-dead/
Sean Anderson, who is at the site with his wife, Sandy, and two others, says: “We’re waiting for our miracle. If this doesn’t wake America up, I don’t know what will.”

Sean Anderson, who is from Riggins, Idaho, goes on to say that he and the other occupiers are heroes. “Think about the Bible and all the heroes came from the bottom. We were just four drunks, we don’t have any military experience, and now we’re the shining stars,” he said.



At one point in the broadcast, Sandy Anderson says: “It’s either all of us out or all of us dead.”

OMG. Totally and completely delusional. I don't see this ending well.

 

[Lilibet]

OMG. Totally and completely delusional. I don't see this ending well.

I don't see this ending well either. There is no reasoning with them. LE is caught between a rock and a hard place trying to avoid bloodshed. I wonder what Anderson will do if one of his companions wants to leave without their "demands" being met. Would that be considered "treason"?
JMO

 

[i.b.nora]

This is David Fry's YouTube channel:

https://m.youtube.com/user/DefendYourBase

This where, if he is actually 'livestreaming' it will appear. Otherwise, all the ones listed there now are in the order he uploaded the completed streams. Most recent at the top. He apparently did not learn how to name his videos or otherwise identify them. Currently the only way to distinguish them is by length which would mostly be because of how long he let the stream run before checking on it and, in many cases, deciding to reset it, which means effectively, stopping the livestream.

The mostly black imagery are the ones by the campfire last night. They spent alot of their time talking on the phone with people and so while you can't really see anything, you can hear alot.

 

[pappa rob]

http://koin.com/2016/01/30/malheur-occupiers-all-of-us-out-or-all-dead/
Sean Anderson, who is at the site with his wife, Sandy, and two others, says: “We’re waiting for our miracle. If this doesn’t wake America up, I don’t know what will.”

Sean Anderson, who is from Riggins, Idaho, goes on to say that he and the other occupiers are heroes. “Think about the Bible and all the heroes came from the bottom. We were just four drunks, we don’t have any military experience, and now we’re the shining stars,” he said.



At one point in the broadcast, Sandy Anderson says: “It’s either all of us out or all of us dead.”

I think they've been hitting the "shine" a little hard..

 

[i.b.nora]

I don't see this ending well either. There is no reasoning with them. LE is caught between a rock and a hard place trying to avoid bloodshed. I wonder what Anderson will do if one of his companions wants to leave without their "demands" being met. Would that be considered "treason"?
JMO

I think it all depends on when they run out of alcohol and who sobers up first.

 

[bluesneakers]

I think it all depends on when they run out of alcohol and who sobers up first.

I think this is going to end with a whimper not a bang.

 

[Hope4More]

http://koin.com/2016/01/30/malheur-occupiers-all-of-us-out-or-all-dead/
Sean Anderson, who is at the site with his wife, Sandy, and two others, says: “We’re waiting for our miracle. If this doesn’t wake America up, I don’t know what will.”

Sean Anderson, who is from Riggins, Idaho, goes on to say that he and the other occupiers are heroes. “Think about the Bible and all the heroes came from the bottom. We were just four drunks, we don’t have any military experience, and now we’re the shining stars,” he said.



At one point in the broadcast, Sandy Anderson says: “It’s either all of us out or all of us dead.”

Didn't realize the woman was Sean Anderson's wife. That's unhelpful to the group's prospects of making it out alive. A 50-50 ratio at best of wanna lives vs. send me to heavens.

 

[i.b.nora]

This is a good article on Sheriff Ward by a guy who's tweets some of us have followed:

USA TODAY
Sheriff in Oregon standoff no stranger to battle — and peacekeeping
USA Today
Gordon Friedman, (Salem, Ore.) Statesman Journal 5:12 a.m. EST January 30, 2016

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-stranger-battle---and-peacekeeping/79532862/

“BURNS, Ore. — Dave Ward has stood on the battlefields of Somalia and Afghanistan. But he’s made his mark by fighting for peace at home.

A man who reads the Bible and the Constitution in bed, Ward is the sheriff of Harney County, Ore., the site of a battlefield of a different sort. For the past month, Ward negotiated to try and bring a peaceful end to the armed standoff between federal agents and militants holed up at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, protesting what they say is federal tyranny in the nation’s West.

“We want to see them go home to their families and consider how their actions affect this community,” he said. “We all want a safe resolution to this situation, and to go back to our peaceful way of life.”​

Much more...

 

[Donjeta]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ca4cd6-c6fb-11e5-8965-0607e0e265ce_story.html


Killing of an Oregon wildlife refuge occupier has re-energized protesters



BJ Soper is an organizer of protests against Tuesday’s killing of LaVoy Finicum, who had been occupying a wildlife refuge near Burns, Ore. “We’ve got a man that’s dead. Over what?” (Kevin Sullivan/The Washington )
By Kevin Sullivan January 30 at 11:38 AM

BURNS, Ore. — BJ Soper has never supported the nearly month-long occupation of a national wildlife refuge by armed anti-government activists. He sympathized with their frustrations about the federal government, but he thought calm negotiation was a better strategy.

Then on Tuesday, an Oregon state trooper shot and killed LaVoy Finicum, a cowboy-hat-wearing grandfather who acted as the occupiers’ spokesman.

Now Soper is furious, and he’s calling for people from all over the country to come to Burns to show their outrage at Finicum’s “ambush.”

“I’m angry,” Soper, 39, said late Friday, joining two dozen protesters in a light sleet outside the Harney County Courthouse. “We’ve got a man that’s dead. Over what? I don’t want to see any more bloodshed, and that’s not what I’m condoning. But at some point when American people keep getting killed by their government, people are going to fight back.”

 

[Hope4More]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ca4cd6-c6fb-11e5-8965-0607e0e265ce_story.html


Killing of an Oregon wildlife refuge occupier has re-energized protesters



BJ Soper is an organizer of protests against Tuesday’s killing of LaVoy Finicum, who had been occupying a wildlife refuge near Burns, Ore. “We’ve got a man that’s dead. Over what?” (Kevin Sullivan/The Washington )
By Kevin Sullivan January 30 at 11:38 AM

Anything for a headline. A couple of dozen folks taking up the martyr refrain doesn't sound like a re-energized protest to me. It sounds instead like the call to revolution has been an abject failure on every level.

 

[Donjeta]

I like the woman quoted in the end of the WP article who thinks no one else gets taxed other than ranchers and had this to

say:
Pearce said that she had seen the FBI video of Finicum’s death, and she said that she was suspicious of the intentions of law enforcement.

“I don’t think they intended for any of them to survive,” she said of Finicum and the others in the car, including an 18-year-old girl. “I think he sacrificed himself to save them.”

So how come they're still alive, the rest of them? How did Lavoy's corpse bravely stop the rest of them getting killed?

 

[i.b.nora]

Good new article:

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/oregon_standoff_bundy_occupati.html

Oregon standoff: Bundy occupation leaves scars behind
By Les Zaitz | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on January 30, 2016 at 10:05 AM, updated January 30, 2016 at 11:03 AM
Kelly House, Luke Hammill, and Carli Brosseau contributed to this report.

“BURNS – As Ammon Bundy was driven out of Harney County Tuesday night in handcuffs, he left behind wounds that won't easily heal.

His group damaged the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, taken over Jan. 2. The headquarters compound will be a crime scene for a week or more once all the protesters are gone. Then, displaced federal workers will return, going building by building, room by room, to assess the damage.

The most profound wreckage, however, is among the 7,000 people of Harney County.

Bundy's message of unshackling the county from federal control resonated with those frustrated with bureaucracy.

But those supporting the occupation found themselves staring across a social chasm at friends and neighbors who abhorred Bundy's arrival and his tactics. Community members couldn't even agree on how to gather in public to hear information and share opinions without fear, insults and holstered guns dominating.​

Much, much more...

 

[bluesneakers]

I like the woman quoted in the end of the WP article who thinks no one else gets taxed other than ranchers and had this to

So how come they're still alive, the rest of them? How did Lavoy's corpse bravely stop the rest of them getting killed?

They get hit with taxes and fees because they're raising cattle - healthy food! - and the government wants us to eat unhealthy, GMO, processed food.

Or maybe this particular strain of ranchers has a persecution complex.

 

[Fairy1]

There is no way to reason with these people. The sad thing about it is that they're too blinded by their own rage and paranoia to see they've been duped by the Bundys, who are masters at manipulating others into fighting their fight. It's not about freedom or tyranny or Constitutional rights. It's all about money, just like everything else. Why can't they understand there is no honor in taking up arms and holding a community hostage for weeks on end?

 

[bluesneakers]

There is no way to reason with these people. The sad thing about it is that they're too blinded by their own rage and paranoia to see they've been duped by the Bundys, who are masters at manipulating others into fighting their fight. It's not about freedom or tyranny or Constitutional rights. It's all about money, just like everything else. Why can't they understand there is no honor in taking up arms and holding a community hostage for weeks on end?

Conspiracy theorists can't be reasoned with.

 

[LinasK]

They really have a problem with the Clintons, especially Hillary.

#Benghazi

Good! 'Cause I'm Jewish and I'm voting for her!!!

 

[Hope4More]

Great explanation for larger context of WTH this is all about....



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