OR - Portland far-right rally, counter-protest lead to some arrests, injuries, 05 Aug. 2018

[flourish]

Extreme anything lends itself to hatred and violence, imo.

 

[Gardenista]

Here is a UK take on it
US security agencies label Antifa 'domestic terrorists'

Wow, I hadn't seen that. Sanity in government! IMO, they and their supporters are definitely domestic terrorists.

 

[Jennifer17]

Here is a UK take on it
US security agencies label Antifa 'domestic terrorists'

That is almost a copy of the Politico article citing 'confidential intelligence sources'.

 

[Amonet]

Here is a UK take on it
US security agencies label Antifa 'domestic terrorists'

If there is something calling itself antifa that is committing violent and terrorist acts, then that is not what those of us who are speaking against the neo-nazis are supporting.

I do not believe that all those counter-protesters are terrorists and wanting violence. It would be unfair to characterize all the counter-protesters as belonging to this domestic terrorist group. We should be careful not to lump people into categories that they don't belong in as part of manipulating dialog. I don't care if it's the left or the right doing that, I do not like it.

 

[Jennifer17]

Wow, I hadn't seen that. Sanity in government! IMO, they and their supporters are definitely domestic terrorists.

Well, the Proud Boys have already been classified as hate group.

 

[Gardenista]

Well, the Proud Boys have already been classified as hate group.

IHNI who the proud boys are. Do you have a link where DOJ labeled them a hate group like they labeled Antifa domestic terrorists?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Well, the Proud Boys have already been classified as hate group.

LOL, those idiots sound like sandwichs. Have you ever had a poor boy sandwich? It's the Louisiana version of a sub sandwich.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

IHNI who the proud boys are. Do you have a link where DOJ labeled them a hate group like they labeled Antifa domestic terrorists?

I just Googled them. Looks like they are a men's rights organization. This is the first I've heard of them.

 

[Gardenista]

LOL, those idiots sound like sandwichs. Have you ever had a poor boy sandwich? It's the Louisiana version of a sub sandwich.

I lol'd--

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Antifa members are being investigated for extremist actions and terrorism.

 

[Jennifer17]

IHNI who the proud boys are. Do you have a link where DOJ labeled them a hate group like they labeled Antifa domestic terrorists?

And all the reports of the DOJ are from the same 'confidential intelligence sources'.

 

[Jennifer17]

And I thought that we were not supposed to trust the FBI or for that matter, any intelligence agencies?

 

[Betty P]

Antifa members are being investigated for extremist actions and terrorism.

Well, I do hope they're investigating the alt/right NeoNazi groups, too. They used to, years ago before it became politically unpopular in some circles.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Well, I do hope they're investigating the alt/right NeoNazi groups, too. They used to, years ago before it became politically unpopular in some circles.

They never stopped monitering them. NeoNazis have never been an accepted group. The FBI has been investigating both left and right extremists. Not that it's done much good, but they've been investigating and monitering.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

And I thought that we were not supposed to trust the FBI or for that matter, any intelligence agencies?

Why?

 

[Betty P]

They never stopped monitering them. NeoNazis have never been an accepted group. The FBI has been investigating both left and right extremists. Not that it's done much good, but they've been investigating and monitering.

Homeland Security Looked Past Antigovernment Movement, Ex-Analyst Says

Pretty sure it was in 2009, when the DHS & FBI report on domestic terror groups/militia, etc. was recalled by leaders in Congress. FBI was trying to educate state LE about these groups.

Inside the DHS: Former Top Analyst Says Agency Bowed to Political Pressure

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Homeland Security Looked Past Antigovernment Movement, Ex-Analyst Says

Pretty sure it was in 2009, when the DHS & FBI report on domestic terror groups/militia, etc. was recalled by leaders in Congress. FBI was trying to educate state LE about these groups.

Inside the DHS: Former Top Analyst Says Agency Bowed to Political Pressure

I remember the FBI and the IRS both got into trouble for harassing conservative groups for political motives. That's not the same thing. Taking over a wildlife refuge is no different from occupying Wall Street . The KKK, Black Panthers, and the like have always been watched by the FBI. I'm not saying the FBI does a good job, look at the school shootings, Pulse Nightclub, San Bernadino, Sandy Hook etc shootings. The FBI knew and did nothing. The FBI is now watching Anitfa, and they will probably still be violent and dangerous

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Homeland Security Looked Past Antigovernment Movement, Ex-Analyst Says

Pretty sure it was in 2009, when the DHS & FBI report on domestic terror groups/militia, etc. was recalled by leaders in Congress. FBI was trying to educate state LE about these groups.

Inside the DHS: Former Top Analyst Says Agency Bowed to Political Pressure

That's because militias are not terrorist groups. The FBI was caught politicizing justice just like the IRS was caught politicizing taxes. I remember how angry President Obama was when that came out.

 

[Gardenista]

I remember the FBI and the IRS both got into trouble for harassing conservative groups for political motives. That's not the same thing. Taking over a wildlife refuge is no different from occupying Wall Street . The KKK, Black Panthers, and the like have always been watched by the FBI. I'm not saying the FBI does a good job, look at the school shootings, Pulse Nightclub, San Bernadino, Sandy Hook etc shootings. The FBI knew and did nothing. The FBI is now watching Anitfa, and they will probably still be violent and dangerous

And FBI just got busted taking payoffs for trading info with journalists and the DOJ declined to prosecute. It's nauseating, really. Talk about privileged.

 

[bluesneakers]

I hate murderers. I hate rapists. I hate nazis.

Is that hate speech?

No. Why would it be?