OR - Portland far-right rally, counter-protest lead to some arrests, injuries, 05 Aug. 2018

[glamourkitty1922]

This topic is getting ridiculous. People supporting violent facists and riots and the like. I feel like I've fall

Link, please.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

The Charlottesville hate group, killed one woman and injured 19 others.
Four others were charged with beating a black man with poles, one has been found guilty.
White Man Convicted Of Beating Black Man At Charlottesville White Nationalist Rally

And Antifa was beating people with bike locks, bats, and assorted weapons.
Here is video of them attacking the police

 

[Gardenista]

Proud boys, in a group circling POC. Aren't they brave?

No, that's Antifa

 

[Jennifer17]

And Antifa was beating people with bike locks, bats, and assorted weapons.
Here is video of them attacking the police

That is still not as violent as murdering someone and seriously injuring nineteen others.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

No, that's Antifa

Isn't it sad that there are people who love their own brand of hate and are not self aware enough to know they are hating. Can't they see themselves in those videos?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

That is still not as violent as murdering someone and seriously injuring nineteen others.

What about those poor people bashed in the head and neck by bicycle locks, beaten with bats, stabbed, and sundry other assaults by the facist Antifa?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Talking about Antifa, people are gathering donations to pay to 4Chan for outing violent Antifa facists. Add to that the police in many states are publishing Antifa idiots without their masks. LOL, it's really funny. 4chan does some great sleuthing. They're a lot like Websleuths in the sleuthing department.

 

[flourish]

How are the antifa people identified as such? Self identified? I guess i don't understand how they're a group if they're not a group as in no mission statement or official ... anything except the name? It just sounds like bands of various people using the title? I'll have to ask the guy i know.




I don't love the idea of using violence to fight violence; I wish nobody felt like they had to. It's like teachings children not to hit but also using corporal punishment.


But do these protests and rallies help? I mean, they worked during the 1960s US civil rights movement. I don't know what the impact of similar events was in the more recent gay marriage civil rights movement.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

I am anti-violence too, but the alt.right has been emboldened and are becoming more of a threat than they ever were. I can understand how some will turn to violence when it saves lives.

Actually the far left has gotten so violent it's scary. The riots, the arson, the violence. Groups like Antifa are very very dangerous. I'm glad the FBI is monitoring them, but the FBI is rather useless.

 

[bluesneakers]

That is still not as violent as murdering someone and seriously injuring nineteen others.

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing
37 deadly attacks since Oklahoma City—comprising a total of 77 victims—carried out or believed to have been carried out by white extremists.

This was from last year. There are probably more now.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

How are the antifa people identified as such? Self identified? I guess i don't understand how they're a group if they're not a group as in no mission statement or official ... anything except the name? It just sounds like bands of various people using the title? I'll have to ask the guy i know.




I don't love the idea of using violence to fight violence; I wish nobody felt like they had to. It's like teachings children not to hit but also using corporal punishment.


But do these protests and rallies help? I mean, they worked during the 1960s US civil rights movement. I don't know what the impact of similar events was in the more recent gay marriage civil rights movement.

If beating people serves a purpose, but I don't see the "help" other than to increase emergency room visits. Their arson attacks are costing businesses money, and their attacks upon the police and military costs taxpayers money. Please tell me how that is helping.

 

[bluesneakers]

Actually the far left has gotten so violent it's scary. The riots, the arson, the violence. Groups like Antifa are very very dangerous. I'm glad the FBI is monitoring them, but the FBI is rather useless.

FBI, ACLU. antifa, all better than white supremacists. It's not even close.

 

[bluesneakers]

If beating people serves a purpose, but I don't see the "help" other than to increase emergency room visits. Their arson attacks are costing businesses money, and their attacks upon the police and military costs taxpayers money. Please tell me how that is helping.

How do you suggest we get rid of the violent white supremacists and neonazis?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing
37 deadly attacks since Oklahoma City—comprising a total of 77 victims—carried out or believed to have been carried out by white extremists.

This was from last year. There are probably more now.

Timothy McVeigh was an anti-American gov't nutcase, like Antifa. Antifa is just the other side of the violence coin. I really wish people wouldn't romanticize facists.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

FBI, ACLU. antifa, all better than white supremacists. It's not even close.

Oh please, you're comparing the facist Antifa to the FBI, a police agency roundly hated by the Antifa, and the ACLU a rights organization who is also not popular with Antifa? When the FBI and the ACLU start rioting and attacking people in the street, then you can compare them.

 

[Gardenista]

Timothy McVeigh was an anti-American gov't nutcase, like Antifa. Antifa is just the other side of the violence coin. I really wish people wouldn't romanticize facists.

I can't quote this enough, lol.

Antifa is not a friend of democracy. It despises democracy, and equally despises those who believe in democracy. There’s not a spit of difference between them and the neo-Nazis — except, and it’s a big except — they have supporters outside the coven.

Rex Murphy: ‘Antifa’ are despicable fascists — call them that, openly, now

 

[glamourkitty1922]

How do you suggest we get rid of the violent white supremacists and neonazis?

Arrest them, of course. Like anyone else, when they commit a crime. Why do you think vigilantism is the answer? The vigilanties are just as dangerous as the neonazis/WS.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

I can't quote this enough, lol.

Antifa is not a friend of democracy. It despises democracy, and equally despises those who believe in democracy. There’s not a spit of difference between them and the neo-Nazis — except, and it’s a big except — they have supporters outside the coven.

Rex Murphy: ‘Antifa’ are despicable fascists — call them that, openly, now

That is so true. People seem to like hate if it's packaged up in a way that attracks them. Two sides of the same coin.

 

[bluesneakers]

Hate, white supremacist propaganda at high level since Charlottesville: Experts

The map includes anti-Semitic incidents, white supremacist rallies, extremist shootouts with police, extremist-related murders and extremist plots and attacks.

The ADL documented more than 3,000 incidents of extremism or anti-Semitism in the U.S. in 2017 and 2018. Most of the activity was concentrated in the eastern part of the country.

 

[flourish]

How do you suggest we get rid of the violent white supremacists and neonazis?

Continued, starting, and/or ongoing full prosecution of hate crimes, including being consistently/mandatorally hard with sentencing and parole standards. Increased/starting/ongoing refusal to accept hatred and supremacist beliefs as acceptable...(stop being polite and get real about it).
More education about psychology, sociology, race, science, logic, and empathy training starting at the early childhood level.
And more...