GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #5

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An amazing find SasQuatch...job well done again...I guess you can send Al Gore an email for inventing the internet capabilities...LOL

These photos obviously establish some kind of verfiable link of Holt to WH

I've often wondered if others noticed Holt going to that Starbucks frequently?

And the photo of WH's SUV at WalMart was amazing, a great close up.

We all send our thanks to AL! LOL

Thank you! It does add a few pieces to the puzzle, and also documents that JH did go to that Starbucks while WH was working. The Hi Res photo of WH's SUV at Walmart, comes from a bulletin I believe. Most of the photos released were smaller.
 
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Over the past few days, I was able to upload a lot of the Google Photos from WH's Apartments as well as photos of JH and their vehicles parked at Starbucks. I have finally had a chance to go back and study some more of the photos and watch a few more news clips from ABC. Here are some of the details that I have found.

The first details are from the photo of JH at Starbucks in Sept. 2011 (login to see photos). Some of the photos are not high resolution, so it has been tricky sorting out some of the details. It appears that JH has his backpack or some sort of bag on the table. It looks like his right hand is guarding it (I believe he is right handed), and his left hand is gripping the coffee. It appears to be a Venti size coffee (20oz), the same size as the one found at Dodge Park, along with WH's Explorer floor mat. We are usually creatures of habit, so was this JH's preferred size of drink? Could JH have walked to Powell, Burnside Starbucks on the morning of October 16th, 2012 and grabbed a Venti coffee and walked back to his apt. complex? There is a Starbucks a few blocks from his house and it opens at 5:30am. Could the coffee cup that was dumped at Dodge Park be JH's? The other thing that I noticed was JH might have had his grey hooded sweatshirt draped over the chair behind him in this photo.

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At WH's Starbucks parking lot was AH's 2010 Scion that JH had backed in for his meeting with his MIL. There are spots on the hood and some liquid on the ground near the drivers side headlight. Did JH throw a drink on the hood of the car? I know there was a report of something on the hood of WH's explorer when it was found at Walmart. Could JH have had a habit of throwing drinks on peoples car hoods out of anger? Passive Aggressive or Anger Retaliation?

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After looking at WH's Explorer from last year compared to the photos from the Walmart Parking Lot /ABC News, I noticed a few differences. The first difference is on her rear view mirror. Last year (and most likely up to Oct.16th ) WH had her shell or nut ornament necklace hanging from her rear view mirror. It looks as if JH ripped it off of the rear view mirror, leaving only a frayed string hanging. The other change that I noticed, besides the change from framed windshield wipers to Bosch Frameless wipers, was that there appeared to be stress fractures/cracks on the passenger side middle dash. It could be sun cracks or photo pixel noise so there isn't any way of telling.

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Other parts of the ABC News clip showed the back patio of JH's Apartment with his motorcycle and helmet. I believe it has already been posted, but I will repost since we have been talking about the apartment area again.

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Is getting a divorce granted 16 days after you file common? That seems awfully effecient to me. Maybe the court had some sympathy for Ambers situation. I am glad for her whatever the reason.

Time to run fast run, run far Amber!
 
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Is getting a divorce granted 16 days after you file common? That seems awfully effecient to me. Maybe the court had some sympathy for Ambers situation. I am glad for her whatever the reason.

Time to run fast run, run far Amber!

Depends on the state....though that is an amount of time I have never heard of....not that that means anything.

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Is getting a divorce granted 16 days after you file common? That seems awfully effecient to me. Maybe the court had some sympathy for Ambers situation. I am glad for her whatever the reason.

Time to run fast run, run far Amber!

Filed Oct.26, completed Dec.11
Me thinks you left out November, so add another 30 days. The divorce was quickly processed though, but still probably not quick enough for AH.

good to see you glowster!
 
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"GRESHAM, OR (KPTV) - Whitney Heichel murder suspect now faces child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 charges

"A man who stands accused of kidnapping and killing 21-year-old Whitney Heichel now faces new charges relating to burglary and child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. Jonathan Holt pleaded not guilty Thursday to a new 11-count indictment, charging him with 10 counts of second-degree encouraging child sex abuse and one count of burglary. Court documents said Holt had child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 with file names such as "Tara 8 year old" on his computer. The burglary charge, meanwhile, stems from Holt breaking into a Gresham apartment sometime last summer. Holt made his appearance in Multnomah County Circuit Court via a live video feed from the Clackamas County Jail, where he's being held in connection with Heichel's death. "

Video and story link of Jonathan Holt during new charges - (including video of his arraignment) KPTV Jan 10th, 2012:

http://www.kptv.com/story/20555220/whitney-heichel-murder-suspect-now-faces-child-🤬🤬🤬🤬-charges?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=8162811

KPTV Photo from Video of Jonathan Holt"

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KGW News : Jan. 10, 2012 New charges for suspected killer of Whitney Heichel
http://www.kgw.com/news/New-charges-for-suspected-killer-of-Whitney-Heichel-186355192.html
"The accused killer of Whitney Heichel faced new charges in a Clackamas County courtroom Thursday. Jonathan Holt was indicted on charges of burglary and encouraging child sex abuse. The charges stem from evidence uncovered by police during their investigation of Heichel's murder, and from statements Holt made to detectives. Holt already faced aggravated murder, kidnapping, sex abuse and robbery charges in connection with Heichel's death in October"

KATU TV Link: Man accused of murdering Whitney Heichel faces new charges

http://www.katu.com/news/local/186348622.html

Portland Tribune/The Gresham Outlook Link: Jonathan Holt pleads not guilty to new counts of burglary,
possession of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬

http://portlandtribune.com/go/42-news/126336-murder-suspect-faces-new-charges
 
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KGW News : Jan. 10, 2012 New charges for suspected killer of Whitney Heichel
http://www.kgw.com/news/New-charges-for-suspected-killer-of-Whitney-Heichel-186355192.html
"The accused killer of Whitney Heichel faced new charges in a Clackamas County courtroom Thursday. Jonathan Holt was indicted on charges of burglary and encouraging child sex abuse. The charges stem from evidence uncovered by police during their investigation of Heichel's murder, and from statements Holt made to detectives. Holt already faced aggravated murder, kidnapping, sex abuse and robbery charges in connection with Heichel's death in October"

What. The. He77?

Child sexual abuse? :thud:
 
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What. The. He77?

Child sexual abuse? :thud:

*encouraging* child sexual abuse--the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 found on his computer. He is not being charged with actual child sexual abuse. But one is just as bad as the other, in my book.
 
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*encouraging* child sexual abuse--the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 found on his computer. He is not being charged with actual child sexual abuse. But one is just as bad as the other, in my book.

OHHH! Thank you and agreed! But at least I am not immediately freaking out about LE looking for a child's body somewhere because of this utter waste of oxygen.

Thank you for clearing this up in my cray cray head. but what a 🤬🤬🤬 this guy is. Not that we didn't know it but.......GAH
 
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KOIN TV's newslink from today, offers some more useful information. They mention the date range that CH's iPhone was stolen, as well as the Multnomah County Court date set for Feb 25th, in regard to the new charges:

http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/local/story/Suspect-in-Heichel-murder-case-faces-new-charges/0tYXod7R0k-Uz4QFcEWw4g.cspx

"After confessing to the murder during an interview at the Gresham Police Department, Holt told authorities he broke in Heichel's apartment, which she shared with her husband, and stole an iPhone from a dresser drawer, according to a search warrant affidavit. The court's charging documents say the incident happened between Aug. 26 and Sept. 4"............."A trial for the murder is scheduled to begin April 1, 2014, in Clackamas County Circuit Court before Judge Ron Herndon. The new charges are being prosecuted in Multnomah County and the trial date is set for Feb. 25."

Additional coverage from KPTV Thursday night newscast with reporters, basically stating the same info as previously posted:
http://www.kptv.com/story/20555220/whitney-heichel-murder-suspect-now-faces-child-🤬🤬🤬🤬-charges?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=8162811&autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=8164821

Photos of JH's Multnomah County arraignment today (1/10/2013). JH was broadcast on a live feed from Clackamas County where he is currently jailed:
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**(Note: I just realized that I put down the dates on my previous post as 1/10/2012, The dates should read 1/10/2013)
 
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Reposting the JH Links to correct the dates, since these reports are from the most recent court proceeding, and New News as of yesterday, Jan. 10,2013.

"GRESHAM, OR (KPTV) Jan 10th, 2013- Whitney Heichel murder suspect now faces child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 charges

"A man who stands accused of kidnapping and killing 21-year-old Whitney Heichel now faces new charges relating to burglary and child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. Jonathan Holt pleaded not guilty Thursday to a new 11-count indictment, charging him with 10 counts of second-degree encouraging child sex abuse and one count of burglary. Court documents said Holt had child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 with file names such as "Tara 8 year old" on his computer. The burglary charge, meanwhile, stems from Holt breaking into a Gresham apartment sometime last summer. Holt made his appearance in Multnomah County Circuit Court via a live video feed from the Clackamas County Jail, where he's being held in connection with Heichel's death. "

Video (Raw Holt Appearance Footage: He speaks at :50 sec) and story link of Jonathan Holt during new charges - (including video of his arraignment) KPTV Jan 10th, 2013:

http://www.kptv.com/story/20555220/whitney-heichel-murder-suspect-now-faces-child-🤬🤬🤬🤬-charges?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=8162811

KPTV Photo from Video of Jonathan Holt"

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KGW News : Jan. 10, 2013 New charges for suspected killer of Whitney Heichel
http://www.kgw.com/news/New-charges-for-suspected-killer-of-Whitney-Heichel-186355192.html
"The accused killer of Whitney Heichel faced new charges in a Clackamas County courtroom Thursday. Jonathan Holt was indicted on charges of burglary and encouraging child sex abuse. The charges stem from evidence uncovered by police during their investigation of Heichel's murder, and from statements Holt made to detectives. Holt already faced aggravated murder, kidnapping, sex abuse and robbery charges in connection with Heichel's death in October"

KATU News Link : Jan. 10, 2013: Man accused of murdering Whitney Heichel faces new charges

http://www.katu.com/news/local/186348622.html

Portland Tribune/The Gresham Outlook Link: Jonathan Holt pleads not guilty to new counts of burglary,
possession of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬: Jan. 10, 2013

http://portlandtribune.com/go/42-news/126336-murder-suspect-faces-new-charges

Adding Jan 10th, 2013 link from Oregonlive.com :
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/01/accused_killer_jonathan_holt_w.html
 
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OMG. I guess it's really no surprise he has a past :banghead:
 
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Wonder if these new charges and trial date set for end of next month (if I’m reading correctly) are to encourage a plea agreement on all charges currently against him in both counties?

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... A trial for the murder is scheduled to begin April 1, 2014, in Clackamas County Circuit Court before Judge Ron Herndon. The new charges are being prosecuted in Multnomah County and the trial date is set for Feb. 25.
http://portlandtribune.com/go/42-news/126336-murder-suspect-faces-new-charges
 
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Reposting the JH Links to correct the dates, since these reports are from the most recent court proceeding, and New News as of yesterday, Jan. 10,2013.

"GRESHAM, OR (KPTV) Jan 10th, 2013- Whitney Heichel murder suspect now faces child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 charges

"A man who stands accused of kidnapping and killing 21-year-old Whitney Heichel now faces new charges relating to burglary and child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. Jonathan Holt pleaded not guilty Thursday to a new 11-count indictment, charging him with 10 counts of second-degree encouraging child sex abuse and one count of burglary. Court documents said Holt had child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 with file names such as "Tara 8 year old" on his computer. The burglary charge, meanwhile, stems from Holt breaking into a Gresham apartment sometime last summer. Holt made his appearance in Multnomah County Circuit Court via a live video feed from the Clackamas County Jail, where he's being held in connection with Heichel's death. "

Video (Raw Holt Appearance Footage: He speaks at :50 sec) and story link of Jonathan Holt during new charges - (including video of his arraignment) KPTV Jan 10th, 2013:

http://www.kptv.com/story/20555220/whitney-heichel-murder-suspect-now-faces-child-🤬🤬🤬🤬-charges?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=8162811

KPTV Photo from Video of Jonathan Holt"

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KGW News : Jan. 10, 2013 New charges for suspected killer of Whitney Heichel
http://www.kgw.com/news/New-charges-for-suspected-killer-of-Whitney-Heichel-186355192.html
"The accused killer of Whitney Heichel faced new charges in a Clackamas County courtroom Thursday. Jonathan Holt was indicted on charges of burglary and encouraging child sex abuse. The charges stem from evidence uncovered by police during their investigation of Heichel's murder, and from statements Holt made to detectives. Holt already faced aggravated murder, kidnapping, sex abuse and robbery charges in connection with Heichel's death in October"

KATU News Link : Jan. 10, 2013: Man accused of murdering Whitney Heichel faces new charges

http://www.katu.com/news/local/186348622.html

Portland Tribune/The Gresham Outlook Link: Jonathan Holt pleads not guilty to new counts of burglary,
possession of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬: Jan. 10, 2013

http://portlandtribune.com/go/42-news/126336-murder-suspect-faces-new-charges

Adding Jan 10th, 2013 link from Oregonlive.com :
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/01/accused_killer_jonathan_holt_w.html

I had issues opening these links, so LE confirmed the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 stuff on holt's computer or had access to it found other than his computer?

Thanks for explaining this
 
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I had issues opening these links, so LE confirmed the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 stuff on holt's computer or had access to it found other than his computer?

Thanks for explaining this

I haven't seen the actual court documents, but KPTV News Station mentioned that JH is being charged with 10 counts of Second Degree Encouraging Child Abuse and LE found files with names such as "Tara 8 year old". So I am sure they found files on either his gaming laptop, iPad or on his other storage devices. We would have to read the court documents to find out exactly which devices. None of the media outlets have posted a link to the documents that I am aware of. Maybe they found more files, but are only charging him with the files that will hold up in court. The one charge of burglary stems from the iphone theft from WH and CH's Apartment, which occured sometime between August 26th and Sept. 6th, 2012, when they were away on their camping trip.
 
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Wonder if these new charges and trial date set for end of next month (if I’m reading correctly) are to encourage a plea agreement on all charges currently against him in both counties?

* * *
... A trial for the murder is scheduled to begin April 1, 2014, in Clackamas County Circuit Court before Judge Ron Herndon. The new charges are being prosecuted in Multnomah County and the trial date is set for Feb. 25.
http://portlandtribune.com/go/42-news/126336-murder-suspect-faces-new-charges

The date of Feb. 25th appears to be this year, or they probably would have included the year 2014 as well. Cases like the Gary Ridgway (Green River Killer) case, as well as with the Joel Patrick Courtney case (Brooke Wilberger), were both settled in a plea bargain of revealing the whereabouts of the victims bodies, in exchange for not receiving the death penalty.

Although this is from a Utah law site, this generic plea bargain quote made sense to me:

"A few of the factors that may be taken into account when a plea bargain is contemplated are: the interests of justice being served, witness availability and evidence. Generally, the state discusses potential plea bargain offers with the victim or victim’s family, as well."
http://www.saltlakecriminaldefense.com/tag/plea-bargain/

In this case, it appears that JH can not bargain with revealing the location of the body, because WH has been found. The thing that JH has on his side, is that there is currently a case in the Oregon Supreme Court regarding the Oregon Death Penalty. This will decide if Governor Kitzhaber has a right to declare a moratorium by stopping all death penalties in Oregon, while he is in office.
http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/12/gov_john_kitzhaber_files_appea.html
Other factors that could weigh in favor for JH, might be the family's religious and personal beliefs. But we can not discuss those here.

We do not know all of the evidence that LE has to bargain with, other than what has already released to the public.

Just this week, a different Gresham Resident (John Coleman Hardaway), plea bargained with Multnomah County, and only received an 8 year prison sentence in an aggravated murder case. His girlfriend was his second murder victim since 1996.
"Hardaway last week pleaded guilty in Multnomah County Circuit Court to second-degree manslaughter and first-degree assault. His plea came in the form of an Alford plea, a legal term meaning that he doesn’t admit to the acts, but he does agree that there is enough evidence to convict him."
http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2013/01/gresham_man_who_killed_once_be.html
 
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A January drive with the sun shining and a blanket of Winter's Frost all around! I couldn't get a good shot of the Alpacas, but I will try next time they are closer to the road. I figured Caffeinejean might get a kick out of them :) I took some photos from the Dodge Park Bridge and Thomas Road at Roslyn Lake!

The Sandy River looking South, from the Dodge Park Bridge (We have a rainbow instead of orbs!)

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Dodge Park Bridge looking North with fishermen below.

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A blanket of Winter's Frost at Roslyn Lake, with a frozen yellow and pink bud rose.

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The Photo Album Link Below - You can download or get higher resolution photos:
Roslyn Lake & Dodge Park/Sandy River Jan. 2013

"Keep your face always toward the sunshine – and shadows will fall behind you." ~ Walt Whitman
 
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There are some great similarities between how JH parked the Black Scion on Sept. 2011 at Starbucks, and how WH's Explorer was found parked at Walmart on Oct. 16th, 2012. Desdemona pointed out some great similarities between the two last week. JH's signature or Modis Operandi might be in how he parked both of these vehicles.

Here are some of the similarities:

1. Both the 2010 Black Scion and WH's Explorer were parked in backwards, against the shrubbery, backed up to a busy road.

2. Both vehicles were centered between the white spacing lines and the vehicles nose was parked in deep, with the back of the vehicle tight to the Shrubbery!

3. There seems to be a pole used as a reference point, when both vehicles were backed in. It's a bit difficult to see, but the Wells Fargo pole across the street from Starbucks is lined perfectly with the middle of the Black Scion. It almost appears to be used as a reference point in the rear view mirror when backing up. WH's Explorer was parked in backwards at Walmart and backed up centered with a light pole, as well.

4. Both of the vehicles were parked in one of the middle spaces of the Shrubbery Row.

Pole and Shrubbery Parking Walmart WH Explorer
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Pole and Shrubbery Parking Starbucks Black Scion
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Middle Parking Space at Starbucks Black Scion
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Middle Parking Space WH's Explorer at Walmart
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"There are certain clues at a crime scene which by their very nature do not lend themselves to being collected or examined. How's one collect love, rage, hatred, fear...? These are things that we're trained to look for." - James Reese
 
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Wednesday January 16th, 2013 will mark three months since Whitney was taken from her husband, family, friends and all of us.
We all have banded together with great teamwork, making sure that there will be Justice for Whitney!
RIP Whitney! Your light still shines on us!

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