Whitney (in the pink Osh Kosh overalls) and her siblings!
Ah, the Age of Innocence, it should always be kept as a special period, exprience in all children's lives..
To see these photos of Whitney really makes anyone want to hate Holt even more
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Ah, the Age of Innocence, it should always be kept as a special period, exprience in all children's lives..
To see these photos of Whitney really makes anyone want to hate Holt even more
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Whitney (in the pink Osh Kosh overalls) and her siblings!
What a beautiful photo it's heartbreaking that Whitney's life was cut so short. In every photo I have seen Whitney has a smile.
Thank you Xavier! Nice to see you again! It is great that you and everyone else are keeping Whitney in your thoughts. JH effected a lot of lives in this community with his unspeakable acts. The pain and suffering, that JH has caused everyone is beyond words, and his trials can not be here soon enough.
Although all of us come here with different approaches and angles on sleuthing, our goals are all the same. We want Justice for Whitney and peace and healing for the loved ones left behind. In the meantime, we just have to make sure that the darkness, from JH's acts, does not cover up Whitney's light, that shined so brightly on everyone!
In November, a young singer by the name of Forrest Jones (from a band called Mellow Head) posted a music video about WH, with his acoustic song called "Beautiful Whitney". A few weeks later he went into a recording studio and produced the same song, but with some additional instruments. I think that his songs and video are a great tribute to Whitney and her loved ones! If you like his Youtube music video, you will be happy to know that he has offered both versions of his songs available for a free mp3 download on his site. This guy has a big heart!
Forrest Jone's acoustic music video "Beautiful Whitney"
http://youtu.be/9tyM2kcBtrk
Both MP3 versions of his tribute can be downloaded for Free at this link:
http://www.reverbnation.com/mellowhead
“Grace doesn't depend on suffering to exist, but where there is suffering you will find grace in many facets and colors.” ― Wm. Paul Young
Forrest Jone's acoustic music video "Beautiful Whitney"
http://youtu.be/9tyM2kcBtrk
Both MP3 versions of his tribute can be downloaded for Free at this link:
http://www.reverbnation.com/mellowhead
“Grace doesn't depend on suffering to exist, but where there is suffering you will find grace in many facets and colors.” ― Wm. Paul Young
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All of the above posts were BBM
We are now coming near to the Jonathan Holt trial date of February 25th, entered in Multnomah County, for 10 counts of encouraging child sex abuse and 1 count of burglary. I've been trying to watch for any information about this upcoming trial, but have found nothing new since the original news in MSM in January.
I sincerely pray that justice will be served soon for our dear Whitney. Plea or no plea.
lease:p.s. I still think Sasquatch was instrumental in pushing the Multnomah County charges forward.
All of the above posts were BBM
We are now coming near to the Jonathan Holt trial date of February 25th, entered in Multnomah County, for 10 counts of encouraging child sex abuse and 1 count of burglary. I've been trying to watch for any information about this upcoming trial, but have found nothing new since the original news in MSM in January.
I sincerely pray that justice will be served soon for our dear Whitney. Plea or no plea.
p.s. I still think Sasquatch was instrumental in pushing the Multnomah County charges forward.
Thank you CaffeineJean! I sure hope that whatever I have contributed, has helped bring justice for Whitney! I have not seen any new news either. I too, am sending a lot of good thoughts and prayers for justice to be served soon! Saturday marked the 4th month, since Whitney was taken from us. This has been especially difficult on her family and loved ones.
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http://courts.oregon.gov/OJD/pages/courtcalsearch.aspx
I was looking up court schedules in Clackamas and Multnomah counties and ran across the following information with little to no information attached. JH is scheduled for this morning (Feb. 22) at 9am "call regular"? and again on Feb.25th."trial". They must be working on something!
Oregon State Of/Holt Jonathan Daniel MCR 2/22/13 9:00A N208 NON-CUSTODY 121235546 Call Regular
Oregon State Of/Holter Jennifer F COL 2/22/13 1:00P WEBSITE REVIEW 131036 Hearing Case Management
Oregon State Of/Holt Sylvia Rosalee JOS 2/22/13 3:30P COURTROOM 3 120969M Hearing
Oregon State Of/Holton Daniel Brad MAR 2/22/13 4:00P 13C40371 Hearing Preliminary
Oregon State Of/Holt Brittany Sue MCR 2/25/13 7:01A VIP VICTIM IMPACT PANEL 121255594 Appearance
Oregon State Of/Pickering Clarke Holt MAR 2/25/13 8:00A AWN2 13C40149 Hearing Status Check
Oregon State Of/Holt Jonathan Daniel MCR 2/25/13 8:55A N208 NON-CUSTODY 121235546 Trial
I was looking up court schedules in Clackamas and Multnomah counties and ran across the following information with little to no information attached. JH is scheduled for this morning (Feb. 22) at 9am "call regular"? and again on Feb.25th."trial". They must be working on something!
Oregon State Of/Holt Jonathan Daniel MCR 2/22/13 9:00A N208 NON-CUSTODY 121235546 Call Regular
Oregon State Of/Holter Jennifer F COL 2/22/13 1:00P WEBSITE REVIEW 131036 Hearing Case Management
Oregon State Of/Holt Sylvia Rosalee JOS 2/22/13 3:30P COURTROOM 3 120969M Hearing
Oregon State Of/Holton Daniel Brad MAR 2/22/13 4:00P 13C40371 Hearing Preliminary
Oregon State Of/Holt Brittany Sue MCR 2/25/13 7:01A VIP VICTIM IMPACT PANEL 121255594 Appearance
Oregon State Of/Pickering Clarke Holt MAR 2/25/13 8:00A AWN2 13C40149 Hearing Status Check
Oregon State Of/Holt Jonathan Daniel MCR 2/25/13 8:55A N208 NON-CUSTODY 121235546 Trial
Thank you Caffeinejean for this wonderful link and all of this great info! On that link I found a hearing status check for JH, scheduled in Clackamas County on 5/13/13. Maybe the trial in Multnomah County is to put pressure on a plea? I will definitely keep my eyes and ears glued to the media on Monday!
Oregon State Of/Holt Jonathan Daniel CLA 5/13/13 8:30A COURTROOM 5 CR1201726 Hearing Status Check
Per Ehow.com, here is a general description of what a "Hearing Status" means:
"Many criminal cases end in a plea agreement in lieu of a trial. Negotiations between the defense and prosecution take time to complete, and courts use status hearings when the negotiations are ongoing."..."Outcome: Essentially, a status hearing acts as a check to determine the next move of the defendant. At a status hearing, several things can occur, including a request to continue the case to another status hearing, a request to move the trial into the pretrial conference phase, a request to set the case up for the announcement of a plea or to announce that a plea negotiation has not been achieved and the case is ready for trial."
http://www.ehow.com/facts_6860397_status-hearing-criminal-case_.html
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Sorry to say, but the trial date set for JH in Multnomah County has been "set-over" until March. I pulled this PDF from the Multnomah County District Attorney's online docket which shows Holt has been moved from the planned date of February 25th to March 25, 2012. Listings are alphabetical.
http://www.mcda.us/mcda_online_docket.pdf
The "Set-Over" must have been awarded on Friday during the "Call Regular" session.
I am assuming that the defense attorney for JH (Conor Huseby) is staving off a conviction of the 10 charges of "encouraging child sexual abuse" in Multnomah County in exchange for a guilty plea for the multiple "aggravated murder" charges in Clackamas County. With a guilty plea and life imprisonment, instead of the death penalty, the child abuse charges would be expunged or sealed before the prison term for the actual murder conviction begins.
All of the above is just an assumption and my opinion only.
http://courts.oregon.gov/OJD/pages/courtcalsearch.aspx
Link above has been added again to view the new court dates for Holt and the attorney assigned (Huseby) for both Multnomah (MCR) and Clackamas (CLA) counties.
Enter Holt or enter Huseby under attorney. Listings are ordered by date.
Sorry for the bad news of delay.
And so, Sas, the assessment of a plea agreement in progress and ongoing negotiations is most likely right on! Thanks for the info about "hearing status".
*stops in and bows humbly to the Sleuthing God that is Sasquatch*
You never cease to amaze... *smiles* ...to say fantastic job seems so inadequate. *chuckles*
You all are doing a wonderful job keeping the thread going. :rocker:
I was up in the Gresham area several weeks ago and WH has heavy on my mind and heart as I made way about. I found myself looking for areas known to me before only from visiting them via Websleuths; it was a bittersweet experience, but one that had a little extra special meaning simply because of this wonderful young woman most of us have all come to know from afar.
You never cease to amaze... *smiles* ...to say fantastic job seems so inadequate. *chuckles*
You all are doing a wonderful job keeping the thread going. :rocker:
I was up in the Gresham area several weeks ago and WH has heavy on my mind and heart as I made way about. I found myself looking for areas known to me before only from visiting them via Websleuths; it was a bittersweet experience, but one that had a little extra special meaning simply because of this wonderful young woman most of us have all come to know from afar.
Thanks Again SasQ -- I've been sleuthing the Oscar Pistorius & Jodi Arias cases...but have'nt forgotten about poor Whitney
By the way, I believe all week long on TV/cable it's "BigFoot Week"
You should check it out...LOL :seeya:
You are welcome,Thank you Caffeinejean! I think that your scenario above is very plausible! Now that you posted the attorney's name, we might be able to look up some of his past cases for some insight. I would have probably had my eyes and ears glued to the TV and Radio all day, if you did not post the date changes. Thank you for keeping us up to date on everything!
Thank you Kodi for your kind words! I am glad that you had a chance to visit the area. What a very thoughtful post about Whitney and your experience! It is great to be part of a team with such a big heart!
You are welcome, Thank you Xavier! Great to see you, again!
I will definitely have to check out Bigfoot Week! Thanks for the heads up!
It appears that the Multnomah County Court dates in March, were cancelled for JH. I did a search today, and the following are the only dates that appear to be scheduled:
Oregon State Of/Holt Jonathan Daniel CLA 5/13/13 8:30A COURTROOM 5 CR1201726 Hearing Status Check
Oregon State Of/Holt Jonathan Daniel MCR 5/16/13 9:15A N208 NON-CUSTODY 121235546 Hearing Further Proceedings
The "Hearing Status Check" in Clackamas County, was already scheduled when we checked last week. The change appears to be the added "Hearing Further Proceedings" scheduled for May 16th, in Multnomah County. I wonder if they are working on a plea bargain for the Monday 5/13/13 date? Maybe the outcome of the plea bargain deal, might determine if they will proceed with the Multnomah County charges at the Thursday 5/16 hearing.
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Guess it doesn't say "TRIAL" anymore for Multnomah County. Damn! :furious: Do you think they are watching us watching it? I won't forget the charges even if they get swept under the bargaining table.
I will second that :furious:! JH should be held accountable for every act that he has done. They can not give him a sentence long enough to make up for the innocent life he took, and the pain and damage that he has caused others. I will not forget the charges either.
My guess, is that the Multnomah County trial was originally set to give JH a reality check of what it feels like to be on trial, before a plea deal was put on the table for the Clackamas County charges. The Multnomah Co. charges might have only given JH a possible 8 year sentence, but it would have most likely made a psychological impact on him. Of course the aggravated murder charges in Clackamas County are a lot higher stakes, with the possibility of the death penalty. If new evidence was recently discovered, then there might be additional discovery currently in the works. They have until next year's court date to negotiate. The problem is, that it is difficult on the families and all of the loved ones involved, to drag this out, if indeed a plea bargain is part of the plan. All of this of course, is only my opinion.
One example of the psychological effect that a jury has on the accused, would be the Timothy Gaffney case. There was a last minute agreement made on a plea bargain by the accused killer Timothy Gaffney. He was charged in the stabbing death of a man, during a robbery in San Antonio. At the last minute, when the capital murder trial was about to start, he agreed to the plea deal. The judge stated to the jury : “Because you came, there was a plea,” 144th District Judge Angus McGinty told the jury panel. “You see the whites of the jury's eyes and that works.”
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Capital-murder-defendant-takes-last-minute-plea-3913507.php
There are two things that might effect the death penalty in Oregon.
First, Governor Kitzhaber declared a moratorium on the death penalty while he is in office. Second, the Oregon lawmakers are deciding if they should ask the Oregon voters to vote on repealing the death penalty altogether.
The following article states that: "There are 37 people on Oregon's death row. Just two killers have been put to death since Oregon reinstated the death penalty in 1984. But both men in those cases dropped their appeals -- in a sense volunteering to die."
http://nwnewsnetwork.org/post/oregon-lawmakers-consider-death-penalty-repeal
In the California Law Review, an article explains plea bargaining in relation to a Market System:
"Today, the market analogy is most closely associated with Judge Frank Easterbrook. In his 1983 article, Criminal Procedure as a Market System, Easterbrook argued that plea bargaining, together with other accoutrements of criminal procedure, could “be understood as elements of a well-functioning market system” that “set the ‘price’ of crime” and thereby tend to “get the
maximum deterrent punch out of whatever resources are committed to crime control.” Describing plea negotiations, Easterbrook asserted that a “prosecutor will have a minimum settlement demand determined by the penalty the prosecutor thinks he may obtain after trial and the cost of holding the trial (less the cost of settling) . . . . As the sentence on conviction and the probability of conviction rise, so does the prosecutor’s minimum demand.” A defendant, meanwhile, comes to plea negotiations with her own settlement offer, dictated by “the sentence [she] expects to receive if convicted,” adjusted for the likelihood of conviction, together with the cost savings associated with settlement (as opposed to taking the case to trial). These offers, both framed with likely trial outcomes in mind, will yield a deal “if the defendant’s maximum offer equals or exceeds the prosecutor’s minimum demand.” To Easterbrook, these interactions, repeated across cases, fulfill a “priceestablishing function at low cost,” and are therefore “desirable, not just defensible, if the system attempts to maximize deterrence from a given commitment of resources.”
PDF Link:
Crimes Widgets and Plea Bargain by Kyle Graham
This article talks about the plea bargain deal, when the death penalty is at stake:
"The death penalty, however, does increase the bargaining position of DA’s.
In another study, researcher Susan Ehrhard interviewed 27 attorneys about specific cases they worked on and what had factored into plea decisions.
Ehrhard found "the consensus among defense attorneys was that the threat to file and pursue a death notice in a murder-one case is the prosecutor’s most powerful tool." Defense attorneys she interviewed said the death penalty loomed large in plea negotiations in murder cases that were eligible for capital cases.
In fact, defense attorneys largely said they were more likely to ask for plea deals in capital cases. In cases where life without parole was the maximum sentence, however, they were more inclined than in capital cases to risk trial rather than take a lesser sentence."
http://www.scpr.org/blogs/news/2012/08/08/9340/death-bargaining-chip-plea-bargains-and-capital-pu/
In my opinion, there seems to be two ways at viewing the death penalty in Oregon. The first way, is to put the accused on trial and seek the death penalty. Even if the jury finds the accused guilty, and the punishment is the death penalty, the many years of appeals makes it virtually impossible to follow through with the punishment. The second way, is to make sure the death penalty is still an option on the books, and plea bargain with the accused for life in prison with no chance of parole. Some say that if the death penalty is taken away, that the option to bargain for a plea for "life in prison" would go away. There would be no takers of this plea. The accused would have a better chance of going to trial, and most likely get a reduced sentence. Because of the lengthy Oregon appeals process, the people who were handed the death penalty and the people who got "life in prison" terms, seem to be receiving the same punishment; both are just sitting in prison for life.
In this older Willamette Week article it explains some of the problems with taking away the death penalty, and discusses Oregon's Death Penalty plea bargains.
http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-3676-oregons_final_offer.html
This is not the first high profile aggravated murder case in Clackamas County, that John Foote, Clackamas County District Attorney has handled. In 2002, Mr. Foote charged Ward Weaver III for the aggravated murder of Ashley Pond and Miranda Gaddis in Oregon City, Oregon. The FBI found one deceased girl in Ward Weaver's shed and another deceased girl in a 55 gallon drum, under a cement slab he had poured in his back yard.
Ward Weaver III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This was the list of charges filed against Ward Weaver III:
"On October 2, 2002, Weaver was indicted and charged with: six counts of aggravated murder; two counts of abuse of a corpse in the second degree; one count of sexual abuse in the first degree; one count of attempted rape in the second degree; one count of attempted aggravated murder; one count of first degree attempted rape; one count of sexual abuse in the first degree; one count of sexual abuse in the second degree; and two counts of sexual abuse in the third degree."
Two years later, Ward Weaver III agreed to a plea deal:
"In September 2004, Weaver pleaded guilty to two charges and no-contest to the rest. A plea bargain allowed him to avoid the death penalty. He was sentenced to two life sentences without parole."
As stated in the Willamette Week article above, Mr. Foote (Clackamas County District Attorney) mentions the importance of the death penalty in plea bargains:
"It was the threat of the death penalty, says Clackamas County District Attorney John Foote, that caused Weaver to agree to life without parole. "Mr. Weaver," says Foote, "acts completely out of his own self-interest."
Many years later, Ward Weaver III mentioned to one of the victim's sisters that she was next on his list, if he hadn't been caught.
http://www.katu.com/news/specialreports/39913927.html
In this older Willamette Week article it explains some of the problems with taking away the death penalty, and discusses Oregon's Death Penalty plea bargains.
http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-3676-oregons_final_offer.html
This is not the first high profile aggravated murder case in Clackamas County, that John Foote, Clackamas County District Attorney has handled. In 2002, Mr. Foote charged Ward Weaver III for the aggravated murder of Ashley Pond and Miranda Gaddis in Oregon City, Oregon. The FBI found one deceased girl in Ward Weaver's shed and another deceased girl in a 55 gallon drum, under a cement slab he had poured in his back yard.
Ward Weaver III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This was the list of charges filed against Ward Weaver III:
"On October 2, 2002, Weaver was indicted and charged with: six counts of aggravated murder; two counts of abuse of a corpse in the second degree; one count of sexual abuse in the first degree; one count of attempted rape in the second degree; one count of attempted aggravated murder; one count of first degree attempted rape; one count of sexual abuse in the first degree; one count of sexual abuse in the second degree; and two counts of sexual abuse in the third degree."
Two years later, Ward Weaver III agreed to a plea deal:
"In September 2004, Weaver pleaded guilty to two charges and no-contest to the rest. A plea bargain allowed him to avoid the death penalty. He was sentenced to two life sentences without parole."
As stated in the Willamette Week article above, Mr. Foote (Clackamas County District Attorney) mentions the importance of the death penalty in plea bargains:
"It was the threat of the death penalty, says Clackamas County District Attorney John Foote, that caused Weaver to agree to life without parole. "Mr. Weaver," says Foote, "acts completely out of his own self-interest."
Many years later, Ward Weaver III mentioned to one of the victim's sisters that she was next on his list, if he hadn't been caught.
http://www.katu.com/news/specialreports/39913927.html
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Thank you Sasquatch for the great information about plea bargaining and the death penalty. Inparticular how it has applied to past aggravated murder cases in Oregon. I for one would not vote to abolish the death penalty because, as you point out, it is an important tool for prosecutors to push guilty pleas and murder trials forward for murderers who only have interests in their own survival. I would also be first to vote for bread and water and a hole to pee in for these self obsessed murderers :twocents:
And Sas, I love the llamas. They are so beautiful and majestic looking. Love the colors.
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