Oscar Pistorius - Sentencing - 6.13.2016

[Fuskier]

Erin Bates Verified account ‏@ermbates 15h15 hours ago

The finding of remorse without adequate explanation is not plausible, says Nel #OscarPistorius @News24 "We don't know why he did this."

Jacaranda News ‏@JacaNews 15h15 hours ago

#OscarPistorius Nel says we still don't know why Oscar fired -that excludes remorse.

 

[Fuskier]

Jacaranda News ‏@JacaNews 15h15 hours ago

#OscarPistorius Nel says the court should not deviate from the minimum sentence (which is 15 years).

 

[JudgeJudi]

David Dadic

As I said, if you come at a bulldog, prepare to get bitten. Hard.

Nel just loves having 5 Appeal Court judges agree with him, doesn't he?

Nel's argument: If you can't properly admit what you did, can you really be sorry for it? ... Good question.

 

[lithgow1]

David Dadic ‏@DavidDadic 5m5 minutes ago

Nel just loves having 5 Appeal Court judges agree with him, doesn't he?

 

[Fuskier]

Martin Cuddihy Verified account ‏@MartinCuddihy 15h15 hours ago

Nel on #OscarPistorius "The only plausible explanation is that the accused armed himself with the intention to shoot."

 

[Fuskier]

EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 15h15 hours ago

#OscarPistorius Nel: refers to the applicable law - the court may not impose a sentence lesser than 15 years. BB

Barry Bateman Verified account ‏@barrybateman 15h15 hours ago

#OscarPistorius Nel: refers to the applicable law - the court may not impose a sentence lesser than 15 years. BB

Karyn Maughan Verified account ‏@karynmaughan 15h15 hours ago

Nel says sentence prescribed by law for #OscarPistorius murder conviction is 15 years in jail.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Nel: The clean slate starts at 15 years.

 

[Marfa Lights]

In terms of sentencing we want to refer the court to the judgments and exactly what was said--
we say that the general principles enunciated by the court in Malfas (?)
There are two aspects I want to emphasize-- that since the minimum sentencing requirements were enacted it is not business as usual. There is no clean slate to start with for sentencing. Sentencing STARTS at 15 years.

 

[sleuth-d-]

the question roux raised re: the prison facility releasing the prisoner as no threat to society is an interesting one...

 

[lithgow1]

David Dadic ‏@DavidDadic 3m3 minutes ago

Nel's argument: If you can't properly admit what you did, can you really be sorry for it? ... Good question.

 

[Jake18]

Harder for Nel because he has to emphasise just how wrong Masipa was, whereas Roux gets to "agree" with her.

 

[mrjitty]

Standing applause!

The legislature has mandated 15 years minimum

This is the correct starting point NOT the CH sentence

 

[Fuskier]

Jacaranda News ‏@JacaNews 15h15 hours ago

#OscarPistorius Nel says there is no clean slate looking at Oscar when it comes to sentencing - he say sit starts at 15 years.

 

[Marfa Lights]

In short, the legislature aimed at a consistent and standardized sentencing so that the emphasis was intended to be shifted to a particular type of crime and the public's need to impose effective sanctions against it. (Loosely paraphrased.)

 

[Fuskier]

Karyn Maughan Verified account ‏@karynmaughan 15h15 hours ago

Offenses affected by minimum sentence: murder, child rape, gang rape, hijacking, armed robbery..#OscarPistorius

Karyn Maughan Verified account ‏@karynmaughan 15h15 hours ago

Minimum sentence legislation put in place by Parliament, in response to SA high levels of violent crime. #OscarPistorius

 

[Marfa Lights]

The specified sentences are not to be departed from lightly and for flimsy reasons such as personal doubt as to efficacy, undue sympathy, etc.

 

[Fuskier]

Karyn Maughan Verified account ‏@karynmaughan 15h15 hours ago

If #OscarPistorius found guilty of murder with direct intent/premeditation, he'd face life in jail.

 

[lithgow1]

David Dadic

As I said, if you come at a bulldog, prepare to get bitten. Hard.

Nel just loves having 5 Appeal Court judges agree with him, doesn't he?

Nel's argument: If you can't properly admit what you did, can you really be sorry for it? ... Good question.

Now it is my turn to be the Dadic laggard! If you want to post his tweets, I'll sit this dance out JJ. He is good though eh - I liked his tweets last time too.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Barry Bateman

Nel: refers to the applicable law - the court may not impose a sentence lesser than 15 years

 

[Fuskier]

Jacaranda News ‏@JacaNews 15h15 hours ago

#OscarPistorius Nel arguing there must be truly mitigating standards for the court to move away from the prescribed minimum