Oscar Pistorius - Sentencing - 6.13.2016

[JudgeJudi]

Has anyone noticed you only have about 2 minutes to edit your posts now.

MODS, this is not enough time. Can you please give us, say, 10 minutes?

 

[Estelle]

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 19m19 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Steenkamp: June has forgiven him, but it does not exonerate you from your crime. BB

 

[LemonMousse]

Has anyone noticed you only have about 2 minutes to edit your posts now.

MODS, this is not enough time. Can you please give us, say, 10 minutes?

That's not happening for me. I still have the edit button on my last post 20 mins ago.

 

[Estelle]

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 22m22 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Steenkamp: he must understand that he must pay for his crime. BB

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 22m22 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Steenkamp: it’s been very difficult, but Oscar has to pay for what he did.
We’ll accept court decision. He has to pay. BB

 

[BritsKate]

There were some dreadful comments about the Steenkamps as a result. Blood money etc. plus some very gross personal comments.

I still see comments like those...in regards to June's book too. C'mon people...do you really think they'd prefer a paltry sum of money over holding their daughter again? Any amount of money? One would think common sense should prevail. And just to point this out again - 6000R is the equivalent of £277 or $390 USD or $532 Australian.

For their daughter's life. It could be argued that OP didn't have to pay it...but it could also be argued he could have paid so much more and likely would have through a civil judgement. I believe the tiny sum he paid just highlights his own greed; his belief that a payout of any kind somehow absolved him of responsibility; and goes a very long way to showing how dire of straits the Steenkamps must have been in that less than £300 became a lifeline for them. As if they weren't facing enough already.

That it became a weapon to beat them with is just reprehensible.

 

[soozieqtips]

Not surprising that OP and his sister were unmoved by Barry's words. In fact they were probably annoyed that he spoke at all. After all, this is all about OP as the victim, not Reeva.

 

[cottonweaver]

BIB - I can watch for the next 90 minutes. Just catching up on what's already happened.

They're on break for 10 more minutes.
IDK at what point they upload the feeds onto video.
I missed an awful lot of it too.

Barry was the best person to testify, I just hope the stress of doing this doesn't kill him. Just the sight of him in the old photos used to make me cry.

I caught a quick glimpse of OP's face after Barry's testimony (when Roux had finished with Barry and there was a brief adj before Nel came back on) .
Personal interp of OP's expression was - my life raft has just been sunk!

 

[JudgeJudi]

OP certainly still has anger management issues.

Mr. Nel also pointed to an incident involving a confrontation between Pistorius and a police witness, arguing that the athlete could still be a danger to others and hadn't shown remorse.

"Please give us space and privacy. You didn't do your job in any case," the prosecutor quoted Pistorius as saying to the police officer, though he noted that Pistorius' defense team had apologized for the incident.

[url]http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2016/0613/In-Pistorius-sentencing-a-debate-over-remorse-and-mental-health-video[/URL]

 

[Marfa Lights]

OP certainly still has anger management issues.

Mr. Nel also pointed to an incident involving a confrontation between Pistorius and a police witness, arguing that the athlete could still be a danger to others and hadn't shown remorse.

"Please give us space and privacy. You didn't do your job in any case," the prosecutor quoted Pistorius as saying to the police officer, though he noted that Pistorius' defense team had apologized for the incident.

[url]http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2016/0613/In-Pistorius-sentencing-a-debate-over-remorse-and-mental-health-video[/URL]

Imperious bunch.

 

[soozieqtips]

I still see comments like those...in regards to June's book too. C'mon people...do you really think they'd prefer a paltry sum of money over holding their daughter again? Any amount of money? One would think common sense should prevail. And just to point this out again - 6000R is the equivalent of £277 or $390 USD or $532 Australian.

For their daughter's life. It could be argued that OP didn't have to pay it...but it could also be argued he could have paid so much more and likely would have through a civil judgement. I believe the tiny sum he paid just highlights his own greed; his belief that a payout of any kind somehow absolved him of responsibility; and goes a very long way to showing how dire of straits the Steenkamps must have been in that less than £300 became a lifeline for them. As if they weren't facing enough already.

That it became a weapon to beat them with is just reprehensible.

Can you imagine just how desperate they must have been to accept a penny off that murderer? Roux sunk to new lows when he deliberately bought it up in court. What a callous thing to do. They were about to be evicted and didn't need the extra stress of top of Barry's ill health and the trial. But Roux (and the murderer) didn't care about any of that. Plus the amount OP paid would have been pennies to him.

 

[Interested Bystander]

Devastating. Poor man.

Pistorius completely dry-eyed. Rather at odds with his snotty snivelling over how terrible it's all been for him.

Says it all, doesn't it. I cried watching Reeva's father and I am not given to being overly emotional. Yet OP appeared not to shed a tear from what I could see. His tears are only shed in self interest. How I wish Nel could be allowed to point this out.

 

[cottonweaver]

OscarPistorius set to resume soon. State will probably call a prison official. BB

https://twitter.com/barrybateman/with_replies

 

[katydid23]

OscarPistorius set to resume soon. State will probably call a prison official. BB

https://twitter.com/barrybateman/with_replies

Oh good. Wonder if My Lady will like to hear about his more recent anger issues....

 

[Marfa Lights]

Can you imagine just how desperate they must have been to accept a penny off that murderer? Roux sunk to new lows when he deliberately bought it up in court. What a callous thing to do. They were about to be evicted and didn't need the extra stress of top of Barry's ill health and the trial. But Roux (and the murderer) didn't care about any of that. Plus the amount OP paid would have been pennies to him.

I can't help but wonder if their attorney represented them well in that situation. Couldn't there have been contingencies or consequences for Roux breaching the disclosure agreement?

 

[Trooper]

That was harrowing stuff, Barry Steenkamps testimony.. . it certainly put Amy's faux whining into the shade...

 

[LemonMousse]

There's no shame in this world in needing money. We all need it - literally can't survive without it.

And I think it's worth bearing in mind that the Steenkamps accepted the sum at a time when they believed this may all have been an accident. It is entirely normal to sue for wrongful death and nobody kicks up a stink about "blood money" when that happens.

These two people are elderly and in poor health - they can hardly take on pizza delivery shifts to make ends meet. I don't blame them for taking his money. I would. AND I would have taken the 300k too. Without hesitation.

Not in payment for the loss of my child but because taking it might have caused him some discomfort. Maybe I'd have burnt it. Whatever. But I would have taken it.

Hope they are doing OK now and the book has done well for them. It probably hasn't, sadly.....I know how very, very little authors earn unless they write about child wizards or adults spanking each other.

 

[mrjitty]

Says it all, doesn't it. I cried watching Reeva's father and I am not given to being overly emotional. Yet OP appeared not to shed a tear from what I could see. His tears are only shed in self interest. How I wish Nel could be allowed to point this out.

I think especially anyone with their own daughter(s) could not help but be moved by his testimony

As I have followed some of these cases in the last years I am struck out how obvious is the difference between real and fake victims

So for example a parent like Barry who really lost a child to a murder. The raw pain. The bewilderment and confusion.

Compare that to interviews with the likes of Oscar, McCanns, Knox

 

[Marfa Lights]

OscarPistorius set to resume soon. State will probably call a prison official. BB

https://twitter.com/barrybateman/with_replies

I hope it is Sistema Shabane or whatever the corrections official's name was who reported the incident of him being aggressive and banging his (damaged?) fist on the table demanding the anti-inflammatory drugs (yeah, right) his family had delivered. Roux and Masipa were so quick to dismiss the incident yesterday.

 

[mrjitty]

I can't help but wonder if their attorney represented them well in that situation. Couldn't their have been contingencies or consequences for Roux breaching the disclosure agreement?

What are they going to do about it?

Sue Oscar?

 

[cottonweaver]

Oh good. Wonder if My Lady will like to hear about his more recent anger issues....

Yes, 11 months of uppity table banging and contraband medication! LOL

I want to hear about mobile phones(?) , hard drives and references to Radovan - not just their exploiting the yard for 1 on 1 football games....
The tuck shop and his ability to cook his own food which he declined
Declining mixing with other inmates
Lies about violence that he has told Scholtz
His granted requests for mattresses, gym equip
His accomm via having the bath fitted.

Thing is, we won't really get to hear how they actually bent over backwards to accomm him and him alone, as it doesn't put SA CS in a good light.