Othram - General Discussion - #3

[ChatteringBirds]

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Was this an old announcement or is there still a case announcement coming up?

 

[othram]

Well (of course) there are more coming, but that message was written for the Tina Heins case, which announced the day after that message was posted.

 

[othram]

Well @ChatteringBirds, here is another solve!

Honored that Othram could assist the Colorado Bureau Of Investigation and Pueblo Police Department in identifying a 2022 homicide victim as 39-year-old Steven Robinson. Today his killer was arrested as well. Solving human remains cases doesn't just help families. It improves public safety.

Colorado's Pueblo County John Doe (2022) is Now Identified

 

[dotr]

Well @ChatteringBirds, here is another solve!

Honored that Othram could assist the Colorado Bureau Of Investigation and Pueblo Police Department in identifying a 2022 homicide victim as 39-year-old Steven Robinson. Today his killer was arrested as well. Solving human remains cases doesn't just help families. It improves public safety.

Colorado's Pueblo County John Doe (2022) is Now Identified

CO Thread 'CO-Pueblo Co, WhtMale, 40-60, UP97796, Skeletal remains found on a private property, Sep '22'

Dec 25, 2022

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)​

Date Body Found September 25, 2022​

Location Found Eastern Pueblo County, Colorado​

Estimated Age Range 40-60 years​

Sex Male​

Race/Ethnicity White/Caucasian​

Estimated Age Group Adult​

Height 5'8"-5'10" (68-70 inches), Estimated​

Weight Cannot Estimate​

County Pueblo County​

Found On Tribal Land No​

Circumstances of Recovery On 09/25/2022, skeletal remains were located on a private property in Eastern Pueblo County.​

Condition of Remains Not...​

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• Forum: The Unidentified

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[iamshadow21]

Well @ChatteringBirds, here is another solve!

Honored that Othram could assist the Colorado Bureau Of Investigation and Pueblo Police Department in identifying a 2022 homicide victim as 39-year-old Steven Robinson. Today his killer was arrested as well. Solving human remains cases doesn't just help families. It improves public safety.

Colorado's Pueblo County John Doe (2022) is Now Identified

A small correction, I think the description at the page is meant to read 'buried him ON his family's property'? Right now it sounds like he's burying his family's belongings.

 

[othram]

A small correction, I think the description at the page is meant to read 'buried him ON his family's property'? Right now it sounds like he's burying his family's belongings.

Yes apologies. We corrected the typo.

 

[PeregrineFalcon]

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Cold case victim identified after more than 40 years in Cobb County

The remains were unidentified for decades, even with extensive investigations.

www.wsbtv.com

This is a prime example of why I never bother looking at the recreations of unidentified skulls. It never looks like the person. DNA is the only way to go!!

 

[othram]

This is a prime example of why I never bother looking at the recreations of unidentified skulls. It never looks like the person. DNA is the only way to go!!

Amen!

 

[RyGuy611]

This is a prime example of why I never bother looking at the recreations of unidentified skulls. It never looks like the person. DNA is the only way to go!!

I mean, reconstructions are meant to aid in identification. DNA is used for the actual identification.

 

[othram]

I mean, reconstructions are meant to aid in identification. DNA is used for the actual identification.

With today's technology, DNA is probably a faster path to an identification.

 

[HopeRains]

Honored that Othram could assist the Cobb County ME, PD, and the Georgia Criminal Justice Coordinating Council in identifying a 1984 homicide victim as 20-year-old Veronica Jane Miller. An investigation into her death continues.

After 41 Years, Cobb County Jane Doe (1984) is Identified

This is a prime example of why I never bother looking at the recreations of unidentified skulls. It never looks like the person. DNA is the only way to go!!

I respectfully disagree. The distance between the eyes, cheekbones, line of the nose, distance between nose and lips, and chin shape are all similar. Forensic reconstructions are often last-ditch efforts to spark some recognition in people looking at them and promote further investigation for identification - dentals, DNA, etc. While it didn’t in this case, it certainly has in others. Reconstructions and stats (while provided by field experts and not always entirely accurate) do have value. Unfortunately, we don’t live in a world where DNA is available for all the missing and Does, I wish we did. Gratefully in this case, LE and ME stayed on it and although the 2011 DNA extraction did not prove fruitful, the 2022 by Othram did.

 

[othram]

Honored that Othram could assist Saskatoon and Toronto Police Services to Identify Canada's "Woman in the Well". Her name is Alice Burke Spence, born in September 1881!

After 19 Years, Canada's "Woman in the Well" is Identified

 

[MarziPanda]

Honored that Othram could assist Saskatoon and Toronto Police Services to Identify Canada's "Woman in the Well". Her name is Alice Burke Spence, born in September 1881!

After 19 Years, Canada's "Woman in the Well" is Identified

Alice's Doe thread: CANADA - Canada - Saskatoon, WhtFem 498UFSK, early 1900s murder victim, Jun'06

 

[iamshadow21]

Honored that Othram could assist Saskatoon and Toronto Police Services to Identify Canada's "Woman in the Well". Her name is Alice Burke Spence, born in September 1881!

After 19 Years, Canada's "Woman in the Well" is Identified

Wonderful. I did wonder if she'd ever be identified. I knew there was hope, because the Loveless case was a similar vintage.

MOO