Our university teaches that Patsy did it

[Brefie]

Zman - I too am sorry for the miscommunication.

Please - lets continue to discuss without the 'excitement'!!! lol

 

[Zman]

YES, it's a great wonder to me why they felt the need to humanize themselves again. IT IS NOT ABOUT JOHN AND PATSY!!! Why do they need the world to love them?? Why not concentrate on finding the killer?



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I don't think they want the world to love them. Just trying to let people know that they are human beings, not the loveless monsters with no feelings that they are so often portrayed as.

They hired PI's, they pleaded on national tv, pleaded on newscasts, radio, they put up posters, paid for a tip line, web site. Gave LE a list of all possible suspects, enemys. Gave blood, hair, fingerprints samples. GOD, they even had to find the darn body for these hapless coppers.
What else could they do?
Search the streets themselves?

 

[concernedperson]

Patsy is not compassionate.She is not capable of this.Sorry, MO, but valued on real life.

 

[narlacat]

I don't think they want the world to love them. Just trying to let people know that they are human beings, not the loveless monsters with no feelings that they are so often portrayed as.

They hired PI's, they pleaded on national tv, pleaded on newscasts, radio, they put up posters, paid for a tip line, web site. Gave LE a list of all possible suspects, enemys. Gave blood, hair, fingerprints samples. GOD, they even had to find the darn body for these hapless coppers.
What else could they do?
Search the streets themselves?

Um, start up a phoney foundation in JonBenet's name.....
Well, John Ramsey did look out the window.....

 

[sissi]

Has anyone considered the "possible political" angle?



As an employee of Lockheed Martin and thus a Little Eichmann, John Ramsey helped kill thousands of brown-skinned Jonbenet’s around the world.

But he did not kill the little white girl.

Don’t ya’ll think Wardo would agree?

The above taken from........

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cach...les+christmas+kidnapping+gifts&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

 

[txsvicki]

I'm not saying Patsy should FOCUS on the horror, but I've never once read where she has acknowledged the pain that her daughter must have gone through.
Why Nutt is right, all we've heard about is Patsy's pain,loss and suffering.
I just couldn't believe it when I realised that the title of the book....DOI....meant the death of THEIR innocence....you could have knocked me over with a feather, I was astounded...I truly thought that the title was referring to the death of their innocent child.

Just browsing through the forum and read this. What an outrageous thing to title a book and how horrible that it referred to the Ramseys! I never read that book but seen it mentioned many times and myself always thought it referred to JonBenet. It is all about Patsy isn't it?

 

[BlueCrab]

Just browsing through the forum and read this. What an outrageous thing to title a book and how horrible that it referred to the Ramseys! I never read that book but seen it mentioned many times and myself always thought it referred to JonBenet. It is all about Patsy isn't it?

txsvicki,

What's more, variations of the self-centered Ramsey theme in DOI is echoed by most convicted felons. They didn't do anything wrong; it was the big bad cops fault.

 

[deanws]

I don't think they want the world to love them. Just trying to let people know that they are human beings, not the loveless monsters with no feelings that they are so often portrayed as.

They hired PI's, they pleaded on national tv, pleaded on newscasts, radio, they put up posters, paid for a tip line, web site. Gave LE a list of all possible suspects, enemys. Gave blood, hair, fingerprints samples. GOD, they even had to find the darn body for these hapless coppers.
What else could they do?
Search the streets themselves?

OH...you forgot to mention...tried to get out of town within hours of finding the body. Hummm...:sick:

 

[Brefie]

What else could they do?
Search the streets themselves?

YES!! Wouldn't you??? I sure as heck would. I would do WHATEVER it took.

I would have also hurried along the process to get me eliminated so they could go find the killer.

But that's just me

 

[deanws]

YES!! Wouldn't you??? I sure as heck would. I would do WHATEVER it took.

I would have also hurried along the process to get me eliminated so they could go find the killer.

But that's just me

I am afraid I would have been jumping up and down crying,"I will do anything you want me to do, so you can go out and focus on finding the killer. Do whatever...just do it NOW and get on with it please." I guess we were hatched from the same egg Brefie.:innocent:

 

[aussiesheila]

It's not Brefie that is out of line.
It is Zman.
Have you not noticed some of his posts?
His intention is to be rude and put people down.

I'll stick up for Zman narlacat. I agree he can be a bit rude but I don't think he means to put people down or hurt them with his rudeness, I just think he gets incredibly mad because he is so passionate about his beliefs and he reacts that way. And narlacat, he has yelled at me too. I yelled back.

 

[narlacat]

Well, I really don't see the point in yelling at each other and we are all passionate about what happened to JonBenet, but that doesn't give us the right to be rude and condescending to each other.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

OH...you forgot to mention...tried to get out of town within hours of finding the body. Hummm...:sick:

This point has little or no value, I mean the family was victimized by a brutal killer. Were you expecting them to stay in the house, or at the local Holiday Inn!?!

 

[narlacat]

It wasn't even hours, it was within the hour of finding their daughter's body that John Ramsey was on the phone organizing a flight out of the state.
What??
Their daughter has just been found brutally murdered and instead of wanting to find out who would do that to their precious child....they are arranging to high tail it out of there......John Ramsey said he had something important he had to do, tell me, what could be more important than finding the killer of his child??

 

[Brefie]

Holdontoyourhat

This point has little or no value, I mean the family was victimized by a brutal killer. Were you expecting them to stay in the house, or at the local Holiday Inn!?!

So you would seriously consider leaving the state the same day your child was found murdered in you home?

 

[deanws]

This point has little or no value, I mean the family was victimized by a brutal killer. Were you expecting them to stay in the house, or at the local Holiday Inn!?!

No...it has A LOT to do with it. I don't believe my first instinct would be to load up my family...myself included, and not wait around to help the police by answering questions. The first step in most child abductions or murder investigations is to clear the mother and father as well as the immediate family so the police can move on to the community.

 

[Brefie]

No...it has A LOT to do with it. I don't believe my first instinct would be to load up my family...myself included, and not wait around to help the police by answering questions. The first step in most child abductions or murder investigations is to clear the mother and father as well as the immediate family so the police can move on to the community.

HALLEJULAH! (sp?)

Who WOULD try to get out of state?? IMO - nobody who is innocent.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

No...it has A LOT to do with it. I don't believe my first instinct would be to load up my family...myself included, and not wait around to help the police by answering questions. The first step in most child abductions or murder investigations is to clear the mother and father as well as the immediate family so the police can move on to the community.

Not knowing where the killer is, IMO JR did absolutely the right thing by distancing his family from the killer.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

Not knowing where the killer is, IMO JR did absolutely the right thing by distancing his family from the killer.

Yeah, he doesn't know where the killer is, so he sends his 9 year old son out of the house for the day...WRONG! I never would have allowed my son to go anywhere with anybody if my other child turned up missing or dead. That house was big enough, and there were enough people there for the tea party that someone could have entertained Burke elsewhere (must have been other tvs in the Ramsey household to hook up that coveted N64 to) while the parents and police did their thing. Then they sent Burke right back to school, first with a security guard (too obtrusive, didn't last) and then with a parent of one of the kids in Burke's class (Burke Watch) trailing around the class every day - was the parent who volunteered to stand Burke Watch trained to know how to respond in case someone came after Burke? I don't think so.

As for leaving the state...again, why would you take off at the first available chance and leave your dead child behind? To get away from the crime scene before law enforcement figures out you were involved.

The Ramseys knew who killed JonBenet, knew they needed to get out of Dodge before it became obvious they knew, and further knew that Burke was totally safe anywhere he went.

 

[Brefie]

Not knowing where the killer is, IMO JR did absolutely the right thing by distancing his family from the killer.

Not knowing where the killer is - how do you know you are 'distancing' your family from him?

If it were an 'inside job', how did John know the killer wouldn't follow them? Or even have guessed correctly what John's next move would be?

If anyone thinks that getting 'outta Dodge' (to use Camper's words!!) is a 'normal' thing to do - please provide enough links to stories where other innocent families have done likewise.
By 'enough', I mean....well.....considering there are hundreds of murders every year in this country........30 should do it.