P.I. Says Partner Knew Where Caylee Anthony's Body Was

  • #341
Hoover would have to be a complete and total idiot to go public with this if they'd found a body. He'd be incriminating himself.

The fact is, no one has claimed they actually found the body. If it's true that they went there to film the finding of the body, why isn't that on the film?

Maybe it's just silly of me, but I really think it's a good idea to hear both sides of a story before jumping to conclusions.

I think JH is coming forward as he has had a change of heart as it is not against the law to not tell LE enforcement you found a body.
BUT! IF (BIG IF) he was trying to sell this and shopping around, maybe all the people he went to, said to tell LE or that they would?

JMO- I still think more will come out about this. Why would JH go on national TV with his attorney if he was lying? now that would be really idiotic.

I see LP is back in California. This is just started folks and LP is showing some relief... I knew he wasn't telling the whole story. HE WILL!
He is the MOST honest of all I have seen in this crazy case.
 
  • #342
Dumb question I know, but where was KC when the PIs went to Suburban? Was she in jail or on house arrest?
She was re-arrested on Murder One charges on Oct. 14th. so she was definitely in jail.
 
  • #343
The MM explains in his first 911 cal why he didn't go to the bag he could see in the distance. Paraphrasing here, I'm not going back there, I found a dead 4 foot diamond back rattler there before.

The area was literally choked in vines and other vegitation and was under water. This is all verified on GSJ's video.

Thanks I just found out it is also against their policy, it must have been maddening for him to see that and have no one find it
 
  • #344
To add to that, if they said the body wasn't findable, and kc told somebody it was in that place then obviously it wouldn't be found there or anywhere else... they probably thought it would be a great time for a presser to give "hard evidence" Caylee was still alive. What was the date of that cancelled presser?

They eventually did have that presser it was about the mall sighting, IIRC, don't know the dates though. There was one with MB and DC and the A's. Then there was that one with comatose CA, GA and MB.
 
  • #345
  • #346
you think someone paid the meter reader to call the discovery in? or is that too far fetched?

I AM HOLDING my hand really high! lol
I think he got paid quite a bit of money to call that in.
ALL the people that knew where the body was could not do it as they would have been deemed guilty of murder and KC would have gotten off.

Or better yet, let's wait to see what DC cell phones say he was talking to?

I am open minded but these people are not that smart.
 
  • #347
  • #348
Wow, sounds like the PI's were on target doesn't it?

Yes it does. It took me a minute to understand what I was looking at, then it hit me what the MR said about something round and white and something nailed to a tree. If this was shot a month before the MR found her and the other calls regarding the white thing was back in Aug how weird is it that on the hoover tape it shows something round and white on a tree.
 
  • #349
I think JH is coming forward as he has had a change of heart as it is not against the law to not tell LE enforcement you found a body.
BUT! IF (BIG IF) he was trying to sell this and shopping around, maybe all the people he went to, said to tell LE or that they would?

JMO- I still think more will come out about this. Why would JH go on national TV with his attorney if he was lying? now that would be really idiotic.

I see LP is back in California. This is just started folks and LP is showing some relief... I knew he wasn't telling the whole story. HE WILL!
He is the MOST honest of all I have seen in this crazy case.
I honestly believe that N. Savage gave LP the "nod" to go ahead and break it wide open knowing they had this one in the bag to finally allow LP some kudos he has deserved for landing it for them. Remember when he was name dropping N. Savage the other night before all this broke wide open and people were chastizing him for it?! Uh huh. That is what I think.

I also believe that JH knew after he told LP that he made a big mistake and knew that he was going to be found out...so he had to come clean.
 
  • #350
Not to disgree, LJ, but they actually had BC on the 9th, they just hadn't met in person yet. That said... timing was fortuitous, wasn't it?


I thought they met with him on 12/9, but he was not retained until 12/11?
Either way, I think the message is the same. I always wondered what those phones were for in the back of seats on the plane.. Now I do :)
 
  • #351
OK, let me play devil's advocate here for a moment via speculation.

What we know is Kiomarie was interviewed at nearly 10PM on July 19. Kio grew up on Hopespring drive and her dad still lives there. Kio has a friend named Bailey who also lives on Hopespring very close to the Anthony's. Bailey had already spoken to Brian B. and learned he had spoken to LE about the shovel. So Kio and Brian get to talking about KC, and when Kio heard about the shovel, she starts thinking about the secret hiding area off Suburban. Bailey calls Brian and gets the detective's phone number, gives it to Kio, and Kio calls the detective.

Neighbors are obviously talking. It probably does not take long for word to spread about Kio's interview and suspicions about the woods off Suburban. Maybe neighbors kind of are convinced that the area is a high-probability area, but are afraid to spend a lot of time searching themselves because 1) they are neighbors and 2) they figure LE will be able to do it.

So LE does an initial search of the accessible areas (some of it was wet), and they come up with nothing. TES comes out and searches same area - no luck. Problem is - as we know today - the body was not quite in the spot Kio had pointed out. In fact it was several hundred yards away, up the street close to Hopespring.

Neighbors though grow convinced that area is a highly probable area. They know of Kio's story. They know of the shovel. They know TES and LE could not get into all areas. They are unconvinced the unsuccessful searches to date have ruled out the area.

Now throw into the mix speculation that the MR's supervisor is also a neighbor of the Anthony's. Since neighbor's are talking and still think the body could be found up there, the supervisor speaks to his good buddy the MR and asks him to take a look when he does his route. He may even have assigned him to do that route in August just because he is trusted. An official utility vehicle parked up in that area would not look suspicious.

So the MR takes a look and finds a suspicious-looking bag. We know he called it in three times, and the bag was not located. Fay comes in, floods the area, and no searches can be done until early November. Note that rumor has it Kronk was not on that route in Sept., Oct., or Nov.

This next bit of speculation is going to infuriate a lot of Lee haters here when they read what I am thinking. :scream:

Meantime, Lee, I believe, is not drinking the KC Koolaide the way Cindy is. He knows KC did something. He does not know the details, but has suspicions, and does his best to pull information from KC without raising her ire and having her shut him out. He loved Caylee and wants to know the truth. He gets enough KC code to believe her body is nearby, but no details.

Lee becomes aware of Kio's and the neighbor's suspicions.
Maybe he hears about the MR's finding and subsequent failure of LE to locate the body. After Fay, this gets filed in the back of his mind. He starts to drop from public view. He loves his mom and feels she is in a deep denial over KC's crime. He knows - feels - KC did something to Caylee and does not want to get caught up in the maelstrom Cindy is creating.

In early Nov. TES finally can get out and do a search. But they find nothing and pull out earlier than expected. Bewildered, Lee talks to the PI and says:

"Look, there was a MR out up on Suburban near the area Kio pointed out, and he found a very suspicious bag. LE went out there with cadaver dogs but could not find it. Then the MR met them out there but they could not get into the area because of a rattlesnake. He wanted to try again but Fay came along. This past weekend TES went up there, but once again they were too far up in the area of the school. As I understand it, the MR found the bag somewhere along Suburban between the corner at Hopespring and before the school. Not sure of the exact location. Can you check it out?"

So the two PIs hike up there several times to look and video-tape. The information they have is that Caylee's body was found in August, but not recovered. They find nothing. They are close, but not quite in the right spot. Anyone that has seen the psychic videos will agree the area was very dense. They report back to Lee: nothing.

Nejame catches wind that Lee sent the PIs up there and he decides he has had enough. Time to bail out. They privately think the child is dead but publicly berate LE for not searching for a live Caylee. Well, Lee believes she is dead, and probably George does too, but Cindy won't admit it. He's had enough and resigns.

Lee gets word back to the supervisor neighbor and tells him the PI's could find nothing.
Can we get the MR back out there. So the supervisor reasigns the MR to the route and asks him to see if the bag is still there. The MR is back on the route, finds the bag, sees the skull...and Caylee is brought home.

IMHO :rolleyes:
 
  • #352
W/E of Nov. 21 was the alleged hack.

Also the same week CA had that smackdown with David Lohr's nephew who finally saw the light and went to LE with all the info he said he had on her?
 
  • #353
LE provided an attorney for the MM, and he gave a short press conference before the holidays. Saying, he would give an in-depth presser after the new year.

I'm waiting. Tick Tock

IMO
 
  • #354
Note to self: If you ever become a meter reader and happen to stumble across a dead body, under no circumstances should you call the police. Unless you want to be accused of taking bribes and being part of a huge conspiracy that is.
 
  • #355
LE provided an attorney for the MM, and he gave a short press conference before the holidays. Saying, he would give an in-depth presser after the new year.

I'm waiting. Tick Tock

IMO
Not LE...the City did (or whatever entity he was working for).
 
  • #356
Thanks I just found out it is also against their policy, it must have been maddening for him to see that and have no one find it

Lol, I saw the policy post right after I made my post. Two good reasons for the bag not being checked.

And I see you are a newbie....Welcome to WS!!!
 
  • #357
Yes it does. It took me a minute to understand what I was looking at, then it hit me what the MR said about something round and white and something nailed to a tree. If this was shot a month before the MR found her and the other calls regarding the white thing was back in Aug how weird is it that on the hoover tape it shows something round and white on a tree.

They showed it again on the 11 news but when I go to the website the video does not show that part. I have it saved on my tv not that that does any good.
 
  • #358
I don't think Kio had ONE DARN THING to do with this!!! Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

NOTHING! The area she told them about was BEHIND the school.

(This was just a convenient story for DC to tell the other day in his interview. In other words, it sounded good at the time.)
 
  • #359
  • #360
Also the same week CA had that smackdown with David Lohr's nephew who finally saw the light and went to LE with all the info he said he had on her?


I think your right SuzQ, but as a point of reference, that person is NOT David's nephew, it was a joke at the request of the "nephew" while they met up in NY on a case of a missing woman. I do not think that has been clarified publicly though :)
 

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