GUILTY PA - Christina Regusters for kidnap, rape of 5yo girl, Philadelphia, 14 Jan 2013 - #2

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  • #981
I typed this then lost it:banghead:so here goes again...

I agree that LE probably questioned her about everything. My concern is that she may not have been forthcoming even though they asked the questions. IIRC she was interviewed at Children's Alliance. These are specially trained forensic interviewers (therapists) who do the questioning. LE is in a separate room and the interview is taped. LE have the opportunity to direct the conversation through the interviewer. They DO NOT push the children for info. (even in homicide cases) I know of several children who disclosed to their own therapists but not to the interviewer. I've even seen a 5yr old with an STD deny sexual contact.

I guess what I am saying is what if their is physical evidence of an assault but she doesn't disclose anything to the interviewer? LE would have asked but it doesn't mean she answered. The sketchy details we have may be because it's all LE has. Traumatized children are much more apt to discuss the physical attributes of the perp, but when it comes to the more personal details they often hold back. (IE:sexual assault). The other aspect is that children don't have a sense of time or distance and do not have fully developed brains to interpret the situation the way an adult would.
All of this makes so much sense belleyes! The child spent very little time at Children's Alliance on that first day, in fact she was found around 4am and then taken to CHOP (I think it was chop I'll look back to make sure) treated and released, taken to CA and taken to a home in South Philly all before dusk. I don't have the exact timeline of all that but I watched it on our local news the entire day and a half and I know there is video of the child and her mother arriving 'home' and it was still daylight, probably 12-13 hours after good samaritan NM Meyers found her in the park. Seems rather quick for such a 'heinous' crime, although in my opinion we should take note that we haven't heard from any hospital spokesman on the extent of the injuries and city officials, civic leaders and media have stopped using words that describe physical damage. Today's return to the neighborhood with the child being videoed bouncing down the street holding her mother's hand is very strange to me. The local news reporting that the event lasted 30 minutes with police on scene and that there wasn't any other police activity after that is strange to me.
 
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All of this makes so much sense belleyes! The child spent very little time at Children's Alliance on that first day, in fact she was found around 4am and then taken to CHOP (I think it was chop I'll look back to make sure) treated and released, taken to CA and taken to a home in South Philly all before dusk. I don't have the exact timeline of all that but I watched it on our local news the entire day and a half and I know there is video of the child and her mother arriving 'home' and it was still daylight, probably 12-13 hours after good samaritan NM Meyers found her in the park. Seems rather quick for such a 'heinous' crime, although in my opinion we should take note that we haven't heard from any hospital spokesman on the extent of the injuries and city officials, civic leaders and media have stopped using words that describe physical damage. Today's return to the neighborhood with the child being videoed bouncing down the street holding her mother's hand is very strange to me. The local news reporting that the event lasted 30 minutes with police on scene and that there wasn't any other police activity after that is strange to me.

It looked like they were out for a Sunday stroll in the park, rather than to revisit the place where one was held captive and "brutally assaulted" :moo: Indeed not what one would expect, undergoing such an ordeal.
 
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All of this makes so much sense belleyes! The child spent very little time at Children's Alliance on that first day, in fact she was found around 4am and then taken to CHOP (I think it was chop I'll look back to make sure) treated and released, taken to CA and taken to a home in South Philly all before dusk. I don't have the exact timeline of all that but I watched it on our local news the entire day and a half and I know there is video of the child and her mother arriving 'home' and it was still daylight, probably 12-13 hours after good samaritan NM Meyers found her in the park. Seems rather quick for such a 'heinous' crime, although in my opinion we should take note that we haven't heard from any hospital spokesman on the extent of the injuries and city officials, civic leaders and media have stopped using words that describe physical damage. Today's return to the neighborhood with the child being videoed bouncing down the street holding her mother's hand is very strange to me. The local news reporting that the event lasted 30 minutes with police on scene and that there wasn't any other police activity after that is strange to me.

I was wondering where the LE were in the photo of them walking along Larchwood. Then I thought they might think she would remember more if it was more informal and just her and mom walking. Then, I thought whoa!!! I would NOT want to be walking my daughter, an eyewitness, down the same street where someone held her captive. She could have been shot. That might sound silly but what the heck?! I would be terrified as a mom to make her that vulnerable. Let's go back to the scene of the crime, without visible police presence, with the kidnap/attackers still on the loose, and walk around. No way! Jmo
 
  • #985
Haha I read that and thought "vampires?" :waitasec: I know vampires and zombies are popular in the entertainment realm now, but I don't see him as a watcher of those types of shows.
It can't be vampires, vampires come out at night, this happened from morning until night, maybe zombies but not vampires. ;)
 
  • #986
The sex fiend, vampire comment was odd to say the least. I only hope the large reward will cause someone to talk. Someone has to know something.....
 
  • #987
I was wondering where the LE were in the photo of them walking along Larchwood. Then I thought they might think she would remember more if it was more informal and just her and mom walking. Then, I thought whoa!!! I would NOT want to be walking my daughter, an eyewitness, down the same street where someone held her captive. She could have been shot. That might sound silly but what the heck?! I would be terrified as a mom to make her that vulnerable. Let's go back to the scene of the crime, without visible police presence, with the kidnap/attackers still on the loose, and walk around. No way! Jmo
Yea, that was weird, imo too.
 
  • #988
bbm

I don't think LE necessarily agrees that it was random. Remember, this is the grandfather who is being quoted above. I think LE knows more than they are letting on. Maybe not enough to make an arrest or have names, but I think they have an idea if it was random or not. JMO

Belimom, You are right, it was the grandfather who made that comment. :blushing:
I'm afraid the perps will do this again if they're not found soon. That is a real concern of mine. :moo:
 
  • #989
...not to mention "repressed memory" often common among victims of traumatic events, particularly at a young age without sufficiently developed coping mechanisms.:twocents:

Soooo true. It always amazes me how quickly things can be repressed even immediately following the incident.
 
  • #990
I hope she is still getting help from the children's alliance.
One thing very important is to show the child she is normal, that she can walk down any street with mom at any time. It is very important not to send the wrong message to her about where they can and can not go. kwim?
This whole walk down the street was much harder on mom than "N" IMO
 
  • #991
In my opinion, with the information we do have, there is nothing to suggest the assault that resulted in the injuries to the child were perpetrated by anyone other than the kidnappers. If there is something I'm missing can someone please point it out?
 
  • #992
I hope she is still getting help from the children's alliance.
One thing very important is to show the child she is normal, that she can walk down any street with mom at any time. It is very important not to send the wrong message to her about where they can and can not go. kwim?
This whole walk down the street was much harder on mom than "N" IMO
BBM
http://paphiladelphia.nationalchildrensalliance.org/
Just an FYI-Children's Alliance is an organization that strictly does forensic interviews and exam's. They work with LE and CPS. They do not provide ongoing therapy. They may help with referrals to get appropriate services. CA was formed to eliminate the number of interviews a child victim/witness goes through. They are interviewed one time (unless new info is obtained) and it is taped. The tapes can be used in court but to my knowledge it has not been done in PA for fear of the case being challenged. The interviews are done at the facility which is child friendly and it is done by very well trained forensic therapists. I cant say all but the CA centers I am aware of are located near or in NO ONE is in the room except the interviewer and the child. (this may be different in different locations but I haven't seen it any other way) Parents are not present for interviews but are sometimes present for the exams.(depends on victims wants/needs). I hope I don't sound argumentative. I just thought I could share some info since CA is relatively new (new= last 10yrs:blushing:)
 
  • #993
Grandfathers statements are hinky. He thinks it was random. He thinks LE is wasting time on tips? Someone explain this to me. Tia

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...Randomly-Targeted-by-a-Pervert-189715191.html

I'd posted this ways back. The Muslim community offered $20,000 to catch the bank robbers who wore Muslim women's garb. The grandpop's statement got me back then. "Whatever happened to masks?" Not "You can't go around robbing banks and murdering police officers".

Plus they were quick to put up the $20,000 back then? Not so fast now. Although perhaps there's a reason for that.

JMO, but it will be all PPD's fault. At least that's what I am hearing.
 
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Many posts back we were discussing why people do not talk. Why a witness would not come forward. In no way am I saying this happened in this case, but just sharing.



http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/lo...-take-down-witness-intimidation-posts-updated


Witness intimidation on FB against a woman who had purchased guns for drug dealers.

I know it is drugs and guns, but people do not talk. However, I have to say that's a large reward.
 
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Watching the NBC video interview with the grandfather and Daralene Jones again, and again, and whooo boy it is bizarre.

The fact that grandpa is adamant that this was a random kidnapping. (?!)

That he believes the kidnapper didn't know the childs name til they were outside of the building. (?!)

Right about 2:20 in the vid, the reporter comes out with the fact that "every person" she talks to just can't believe that no one in his family knows who did this...
And his response to that statement baffles me.
His demeanor baffles me.

I hope that kid is ok.
 
  • #998
Watching the NBC video interview with the grandfather and Daralene Jones again, and again, and whooo boy it is bizarre.

The fact that grandpa is adamant that this was a random kidnapping. (?!)

That he believes the kidnapper didn't know the childs name til they were outside of the building. (?!)

Right about 2:20 in the vid, the reporter comes out with the fact that "every person" she talks to just can't believe that no one in his family knows who did this...
And his response to that statement baffles me.
His demeanor baffles me.

I hope that kid is ok.

Right?

I pray she is O.K. right now too, O.

O.K. I am just going to come out and ask and it's irrelevant, but what's up with the dyed beard?

On one interview I only caught quickly that Jerricka it was interviewing him maybe? He was saying that the Muslim community has no annomosity inside. Another words mosque against mosque. I stress again I know nothing about Islam, but someone close to me does and discussing this they immediately brought that up. They were at a service and the friend said "Oh that Mosque around there we hate them". Of course that is heresay.
 
  • #999
Muslim men are permitted to dye their gray beards and use henna. Thus the red beard.

Did the grandpop have a red beard all along? I don't think he did.
 
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Watching the NBC video interview with the grandfather and Daralene Jones again, and again, and whooo boy it is bizarre.

The fact that grandpa is adamant that this was a random kidnapping. (?!)

That he believes the kidnapper didn't know the childs name til they were outside of the building. (?!)

Right about 2:20 in the vid, the reporter comes out with the fact that "every person" she talks to just can't believe that no one in his family knows who did this...
And his response to that statement baffles me.
His demeanor baffles me.

I hope that kid is ok.

Okay so I have been stewing on this subject for a couple of days now and am going to attempt to tackle the grandfather's apparent disparate view of the circumstances around the kidnapping.

First of all, it sounds to me as if when speaking with police most recently they posed the question to him "is it possible that this was done as some sort of retaliation against you?"

Now as a grandfather and an outspoken leader in the Muslim community, perhaps this same question has been churning round his brain since N was found. Perhaps he himself has questioned if this is possible. Perhaps the very idea of it is so hurtful to him that he has come back in a defensive posture. This cannot be blamed upon me! I cannot be "responsible" for what these monsters did to my precious grandchild.

As far as his insistence that the kidnapper asked N her name after exiting the school and then provided her own as Rashida. A couple of thoughts occur. Perhaps "Rashida" did ask N her name. Lets look at this.

Rashida goes into the school to ostensibly pick up her daughter N to take her for breakfast. She goes to the class pulls N out. N does not hear the conversation with teacher wherein Rashida claims to be N's mom. She is taken out of the classroom and out of the school. Rashida knows that N is not going to buy that she is N's mom. She is also concerned about getting a cooperative N to where they need to get, the house.

So Rashida as they are walking may have been questioned by N. Where are we going, who are you, you are not my aunt? etc. Rashida then introduces herself and tells N whatever story she has cooked up to feed her about why she is leaving school with a stranger. She then, to put N more at ease, walking towards destination all the while says "what's your name?"

Now to an adult, someone walking you out of school to a destination unknown for some cooked up reason would be hinky, and that person then asking your name would be even hinkier. But to a five year old? Maybe the escort not knowing her name fit with whatever the story was provided. Maybe the simple act of being a female, who looks similar to many females in N's life/family/community and who introduces herself and then asks N's name served to put little N more at ease with the odd situation.
 
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