PA - Dana, 46, & Caleb Remaley, 8, murdered, New Stanton, 30 Nov 2016 *Arrest*

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Mother & Son Murdered in their BedS - Westmoreland County - New Stanton - 30 Nov 2016

Suspect in Custody:

To-Be Named

DecedentS:

Mother:
Dana Remaley :: White / Female / 46 Years Old

Son:
Caleb Remaley :: White / Male / 8 Years Old

Historically:

CauseS of Death :: Gun Shot Wound to Head
MannerS of Death :: Homicide



New Stanton Borough, Westmoreland County is in South-Western, PA.

Day One


1)) http://www.wtae.com/article/homicide-investigation-underway-at-new-stanton-home/8383000

2)) http://www.wpxi.com/news/state-police-investigating-apparent-homicide-in-new-stanton/471673190

3))

4))

A Possible Charge May Include:

Title 18 § 2501 §§ A (F1) Criminal Homicide :: A Felony of the 1st Degree :: 2 Counts

§ = Section
§§ = Sub-Section


Rest In Peace, Dana & Caleb Remaley.
 
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When I read the articles, they honestly made my heart ache. Why on earth did this happen? And possibly by a 14 yr old?!
I scrolled down and clicked on the post about Dollywood, and when I read that, I thought maybe this is why all these terrible, unfathomable things are happening...
 
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Mother & Son Murdered in their BedS - Westmoreland County - Hempfield Township - 30 Nov 2016

Charged as Adult:

Older Brother:
Jacob Roland Remaley
White / Male / 14 Years Old :: DOB / Date of Birth - 02/13/2002


Deceased:

Mother:
Dana Remaley :: White / Female / 46 Years Old

Younger Brother:
Caleb Remaley :: White / Male / 8 Years Old

CauseS of Death :: GSW / Gun Shot Wound to Head
MannerS of Death :: Homicide


Hempfield Township, Westmoreland County is in South-Western, PA.

Day One


1)) http://www.wtae.com/article/homicide-investigation-underway-at-new-stanton-home/8383000

2)) http://www.wpxi.com/news/state-police-investigating-apparent-homicide-in-new-stanton/471673190

Lower Court Docket Sheet:

A)) https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJReport.ashx?docketNumber=MJ-10201-CR-0000375-2016:

ChargeS:

Title 18 § 2502 §§ A (H1) Murder of the 1st Degree :: A Heinous-Grade of the 1st Degree :: 2 Counts
&
Title 18 § 2501 §§ A (F1) Criminal Homicide :: A Felony of the 1st Degree :: 2 Counts

§ = Section
§§ = Sub-Section

*Matricide = [MAYE'-trih-side] The Killing of One's Mother
&
**Fratricide = [FRAYE'-trih-side] The Killing of One's Brother


In Pennsylvania, Juveniles accused of Homicide/Murder
are NOT eligible for the DP / Death Penalty.


Our Support to the Remaley Family.
 
  • #5
Do we know if the dad is still living? Haven't heard him mentioned
Surely Dana has siblings, possibly parents, aunts and uncles. Maybe there'll be a new article tomorrow.
 
  • #6
OK, I realize I somehow missed most of the article explaining what happened after the murders and that dad was working. I thought yesterday that article sure didn't say much! Now, I know I missed 2/3 of it.
 
  • #7
Even IF there happened to be some sort of dysfunction or abuse happening (and I'm sure this kid's defense will use every tactic possible--even trying to smear the victims) -- why did he murder the younger brother ?

Without knowing more about this case... I'd say this suspect is already broken beyond repair. Apologies for being so negative..... I hate these familial killings !
:moo:

Rest in peace, Dana and little Caleb.


Eta : Wonder if he was on some kind of meds ? Not that being on medication --or the reactions from such-- is an excuse.
 
  • #8
Hopefully, we will get more info on this in the next few days. Feel so sad that the husband lost his entire family...two dead, and one gone for many, many, years. He's probably so hurt and confused by all this he can't think straight.
 
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14 Year Old Arrested for Matricide* & Fratricide**

Mother & Son Murdered in their BedS - Westmoreland County - Hempfield Township - 30 Nov 2016

Charged as Adult:

Older Brother:
Jacob Roland Remaley
White / Male / 14 Years Old :: DOB / Date of Birth - 02/13/2002


Deceased:

Mother:
Dana Remaley :: White / Female / 46 Years Old

Younger Brother:
Caleb Remaley :: White / Male / 8 Years Old

CauseS of Death :: GSW / Gun Shot Wound to Head
MannerS of Death :: Homicide


Hempfield Township, Westmoreland County is in South-Western, PA.

Day Three


>>> 3)) http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/12/01/new-stanton-double-murder-vigil/

Lower Court Docket Sheet:

A)) https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJReport.ashx?docketNumber=MJ-10201-CR-0000375-2016:

ChargeS:

Title 18 § 2502 §§ A (H1) Murder of the 1st Degree :: A Heinous-Grade of the 1st Degree :: 2 Counts
&
Title 18 § 2501 §§ A (F1) Criminal Homicide :: A Felony of the 1st Degree :: 2 Counts

§ = Section
§§ = Sub-Section

*Matricide = [MAYE'-trih-side] The Killing of One's Mother
&
**Fratricide = [FRAYE'-trih-side] The Killing of One's Brother


In Pennsylvania, Juveniles accused of Homicide/Murder
are NOT eligible for the DP / Death Penalty.


Our Support to the Remaley Family.
 
  • #11
this whole story is just heartbreaking. by the accounts so far the shooter was a good kid. why? we may never know.
 
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Obits for Dana L. and Caleb B. Remaley can be viewed at
www.legacy.com
 
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http://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/12/pa_police_describe_accused_tee.html

Per this article, Jacob had some typical teenage disputes with his parents, no known problems with his brother, and apparently told LE that he would have killed his father also had he been home.

Also:

Limani said he had no record of state police being called to the residence. He said state police could not divulge whether the teen ever had mental health treatment, "but I can tell you that he was under no type of medication."

These child murderer cases are just chilling. Most teens have trouble with their parents but, lord have mercy, don't kill them. WHY?? The only reason I can think of that he would also kill his brother is that Jacob was jealous of him, possibly some type of perceived favoritism towards him? This kid may have just been born rotten and finally went off the rails, but that answer is too vague for my liking. Were there any signs, even tiny ones, that this might happen? Possibly not, but I bet this poor dad is searching his memory bank for something...anything...and he may never find it. I'm reminded of the murder of Maddie Clifton when I read something like this. The 14 year old boy (can't think of his name) who injured his neighbor friend (Maddie) and was so afraid his dad would be angry with him, he decided to kill her and put her body under his waterbed. IIRC there was nothing in his past, behaviorally speaking, that indicated he would do something like that. Some kind of impulse control problem on top of whatever else? MOO

Just thinking out loud here. RIP to Dana and Caleb. I hope dad can find some peace somehow, someday. His entire world has been shattered with one incomprehensible act.

:rose::rose:
 
  • #16
I agree. From what neighbors said, he seemed like a nice, sensible kid they all liked. And everybody with ties to this family are all racking their brains, trying to figure it what went so terribly wrong to cause him to kill two family members.
 
  • #17
14 Year Old Arrested for Matricide* & Fratricide**

Mother & Son Murdered in their BedS - Westmoreland County - Hempfield Township - 30 Nov 2016

Charged as Adult:

Older Brother:
Jacob Roland Remaley
White / Male / 14 Years Old :: DOB / Date of Birth - 02/13/2002


Deceased:

Mother:
Dana Remaley :: White / Female / 46 Years Old

Younger Brother:
Caleb Remaley :: White / Male / 8 Years Old

CauseS of Death :: GSW / Gun Shot Wound to Head
MannerS of Death :: Homicide


Hempfield Township, Westmoreland County is in South-Western, PA.

4)) http://triblive.com/local/westmoreland/11688163-74/remaley-police-jacob

Lower Court Docket Sheet:

A)) https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJReport.ashx?docketNumber=MJ-10201-CR-0000375-2016:

ChargeS:

Title 18 § 2502 §§ A (H1) Murder of the 1st Degree :: A Heinous-Grade of the 1st Degree :: 2 Counts
&
Title 18 § 2501 §§ A (F1) Criminal Homicide :: A Felony of the 1st Degree :: 2 Counts

§ = Section
§§ = Sub-Section

*Matricide = [MAYE'-trih-side] The Killing of One's Mother
&
**Fratricide = [FRAYE'-trih-side] The Killing of One's Brother


In Pennsylvania, Juveniles accused of Homicide/Murder
are NOT eligible for the DP / Death Penalty.


Our Support to the Remaley Family.
 
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I wonder where things are with sentencing on this. This case has bothered me so badly because this boy was in complete shock to the point where he was taken to hospital. How can you get a legitimate confession out of someone in that state, at the hospital, especially someone his age - all alone with authority figures after your world has just fallen apart. People described that the mother and brother were his whole world. Kids will confess or agree to how someone else says something happened (even if they know it not to be true), when they feel that they have no other choice and no one believing them - it's very easy to do. He may have been convinced he did it, rather than actually confessing he did it. A confession is less easy to do with an actual psychopath who can lie with a straight face and often feel smarter than the investigators. . https://psychcentral.com/news/2013/09/12/why-people-confess-even-if-they-didnt-do-it/59450.html

Facts, as I recall them, from this case were chilling 1) boy called 911 totally freaked out in the morning just before 7 a.m. (usual time a kid his age would be getting up and ready for school) 2) he reported that he woke up with gun in his bed - said his dad must've put there but didn't know why 3) he said he ran and found his mom and brother dead 4) he was freaking out and said he needed help 5) the phone disconnected and he called back asking why did you hang up on me? 5) he at one point asked out loud "wait, why didn't he kill me?" (the media tended to skew this towards him making the story up, but I believe this would be normal thought process after what he woke up too - his brain was still catching up and he was likely frightened he was next. 911 dispatched an ambulance first to arrive at scene. The boy was outside - freezing cold weather - in just his boxers and had some blood on him. (he definitely just jumped out of bed that morning) As the boy was trying to explain things, the crew asked if a gun was inside. They said they couldn't enter if gun still in home. The boy ran inside to get the gun (being very cooperative and trying to be helpful) so they would come in. As he ran inside, they left. The boy came out with the gun trying to find the ambulance, which was sitting down the street and walked to them with gun in hand (showing them " the gun is out of the house")). A Neighbor got kid to put gun down very easily (no hassel). He kept crying for his mom. Police arrived on scene and took boy to hospital because he was not well and in state of shock. A bit later they gave news conference and said the boy confessed. I just think it is very easy to get kids to admit to things they didn't do, especially someone described as meek and well mannered like Jacob

My personal opinion is: Too much emotion. Too much panic. Too much "normal reactions" to be a psycho. The other tidbit they added along with the confession was that he said he "would've killed his dad" too. A statement like that could've been made during the interrogation, but one should really wonder how it was used - -was he trying to say it as a matter of retaliation for what he claimed the dad did?

What if this boy was telling the truth? Can you imagine the trauma and disorientation waking up to that? The confession made little sense - what kid can wake up on their own, let alone jump out of bed with intent to kill. He would've had to do it in hurry too, unless he set his clock very early that morning. But why not run away or try to get away. Why kill them before you even get dressed and then call 911 pleading for help, scared out of your mind to the point you run outside in your underwear? And furthermore, the doting mother that she was described as, would not be in bed sleeping when he woke up. She also had a job at a school. I imagine someone like her to be up getting breakfast and lunch together for both boys - - if not being the one to get Jacob up to begin with. I wonder if they checked the home phone records to be sure that a phone call didn't come into the house to wake Jacob up that morning (if mom were already shot as the boy described, the shooter would likely know Jacob would need to first wake up to set everything into motion)?

Facebook photos and posts give a glimpse of what kind of relationship she had with them and her inlaws described her as very on the ball, disciplined and devoted. Vacation photos were of just her and the boys (husband didn't go). The paternal grandparents said Jacob was very meek, mild and loving - and was religious. I heard very little about the other half (the dad) except this: “There’s no words to describe what I was thinking when Davey told me. He was calm. He didn’t say much. What he did say was that Jacob shot his brother and his mother and they were both dead. That’s what he said,” Mr. Remaley (the grandfather) recounted in a telephone interview Thursday. (see: http://www.post-gazette.com/local/e...-mother-s-son-s-shooting/stories/201612010202)

I just pray that the police got it right and weren't fooled by someone/something just too sinister for them to even consider. I agree it would take a very sociopathic person - one with very little emotion to plan and execute something like Jacob described. The motive is the big question likely never answered.
 
  • #20
What a heartbreaking case! I'm torn. I don't want to believe that LE has it right. So sad.

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