PA - Diana Ramos, 66, Flight attendant found deceased in hotel room, Philadelphia, Sept 2023

[SandyToes]

No news??

 

[azure]

No news??

Despite the WS headline, there has been zero word from LE that Diana was murdered. All MSM has said is "found dead". My suspicion is that upon investigation, this wasn't a suspicious death, and it became a private family matter.

American Airlines flight attendant found dead in hotel room

Diana Ramos, 66, was supposed to check out of the hotel two days before she was found unresponsive by housekeepers Monday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Inthedetails]

Despite the WS headline, there has been zero word from LE that Diana was murdered. All MSM has said is "found dead". My suspicion is that upon investigation, this wasn't a suspicious death, and it became a private family matter.

American Airlines flight attendant found dead in hotel room

Diana Ramos, 66, was supposed to check out of the hotel two days before she was found unresponsive by housekeepers Monday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I agree. RIP, Diana.

 

[BaffleMe]

I agree. RIP, Diana.

I don't get the sock. Also seems odd that ALL medicines were not open.

 

[realanastasia]

I don't get the sock. Also seems odd that ALL medicines were not open.

I imagine if a person were to intentionally overdose on medication, they might use something like a sock in their mouth to prevent them from vomiting the medication back up after they fell unconscious. I don’t know if this has any relevance to what happened to poor Ms. Ramos, but I hope her family has a fuller understanding of the circumstances surrounding her death and finds peace (or justice, if the COD is determined to be suspicious).

 

[TTF14]

Have there been no updates?

 

[BaffleMe]

Have there been no updates?

I haven't seen anything

 

[Magnum P.E.]

Ok, this is a weird one. No sign of forced entry. Nothing (presumably) on security cam. Medications were found in the room but we are not told which ones.
My working hypothesis: 1) suicide, or 2) she suffered from a seizure disorder of some kind, felt a seizure coming on, and put cloth in her mouth to prevent herself from injuring her tongue. The seizure killed her. She might have kept an illness like that from friends and family, as well as her employer, as her employment might have been terminated if they knew.

Entirely conjecture on my part, just looking for the simplest explanation that satisfies the known facts. I lean towards 2, as they would have toxicology by now and it would be closed if it were 1.

 

[Shamrock1]

Ok, this is a weird one. No sign of forced entry. Nothing (presumably) on security cam. Medications were found in the room but we are not told which ones.
My working hypothesis: 1) suicide, or 2) she suffered from a seizure disorder of some kind, felt a seizure coming on, and put cloth in her mouth to prevent herself from injuring her tongue. The seizure killed her. She might have kept an illness like that from friends and family, as well as her employer, as her employment might have been terminated if they knew.

Entirely conjecture on my part, just looking for the simplest explanation that satisfies the known facts. I lean towards 2, as they would have toxicology by now and it would be closed if it were 1.

If she did have a seizure disorder, surely she’d know that objects should *never* be put in the mouth.

Recognizing and refuting the myth of tongue swallowing during a seizure - PubMed

One cannot swallow their tongue during a seizure. Foreign objects should not be placed into a seizing person's mouth. We must continue to disseminate these ideas to our patients and colleagues. As neurologists, we have an obligation to champion safe practices for our patients, especially when...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Magnum P.E.]

If she did have a seizure disorder, surely she’d know that objects should *never* be put in the mouth.

Recognizing and refuting the myth of tongue swallowing during a seizure - PubMed

One cannot swallow their tongue during a seizure. Foreign objects should not be placed into a seizing person's mouth. We must continue to disseminate these ideas to our patients and colleagues. As neurologists, we have an obligation to champion safe practices for our patients, especially when...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I am aware that swallowing one’s tongue is an old wives tale. However, biting one’s tongue is not. I can’t speak as to what she knew.
Not to be rude, but I think she may have been Filipina, and there can be, culturally, some very different beliefs and practices. I am just trying for something that explains the situation as we know it. This is a weird case that defies an obvious explanation. I will say that I doubt that anything sinister involving another person went on.
I’d like to know what they had to do to get into the room. Modern hotels have pretty good security locks. Probably didn't have to do anything out of the ordinary to get in, as cleaning staff found her.
They are not spoiling us with an abundance of information.

 

[realanastasia]

I don’t recall seeing her obituary previously, so it’s here: Diana Ramos Obituary - Pasadena, TX
Note the reference to DR having been preceded in death by her “service dog CoCo”—so it seems likely she had a medical condition that required a service dog (yet in spite of this, she could still work as an FA).

 

[TTF14]

I don’t recall seeing her obituary previously, so it’s here: Diana Ramos Obituary - Pasadena, TX
Note the reference to DR having been preceded in death by her “service dog CoCo”—so it seems likely she had a medical condition that required a service dog (yet in spite of this, she could still work as an FA).

That is an interesting tidbit. Nothing was said about a service dog being with her, right?

 

[TTF14]

Still nothing??

 

[DustinTerry]

Hi guys, I have an update in this case. I was able to interview her grandson Jacob to get more details on her case and I thought you might want to watch the interview. There is a lot to unpack in the interview, he gives details of detectives not talking to family and other things. Exclusive Interview: Flight Attendant Diana Ramos Family Speaks Out on Her Cold Case

 

[Ssschu]

Hi guys, I have an update in this case. I was able to interview her grandson Jacob to get more details on her case and I thought you might want to watch the interview. There is a lot to unpack in the interview, he gives details of detectives not talking to family and other things. Exclusive Interview: Flight Attendant Diana Ramos Family Speaks Out on Her Cold Case

Great interview! It's hard to believe they haven't completed the autopsy and toxicology by now. In fact, I don't believe it. Why aren't they releasing the info to her family??

The really interesting part I hadn't heard before is that her phone wasn't in her hotel room. It was tracked to another part of the city but never found if I heard correctly? If so, that really indicates foul play, IMO.

 

[PatLaurel]

Hi guys, I have an update in this case. I was able to interview her grandson Jacob to get more details on her case and I thought you might want to watch the interview. There is a lot to unpack in the interview, he gives details of detectives not talking to family and other things. Exclusive Interview: Flight Attendant Diana Ramos Family Speaks Out on Her Cold Case

So, it was not a sock but a blouse??? That's even more suspicious, IMO.

 

[DustinTerry]

I’ve emailed reporters who wrote about her case and because of the advocate behind Justice for Diana Ramos on FB there has been a lot of interest in the case based on my analytics on Substack (which hosts my website). I’d like for interest to be revived in this case so there is some type of resolution for the family or at least the Philadelphia police to actually re-investigate her case. Does anyone know of any other ways to create more interest in this case? Because there were a lot of details he unpacked for people and I know he was nervous. And also, this has been a major tragedy for the family. She was a really good woman and I honestly wish I could’ve met her after speaking to him. I didn’t know her but she seemed like family to me after reading about her and hearing him speak on her. Her courage after 9/11 as a military veteran I am in awe of the type of person she was, and I want justice for her.

 

[DustinTerry]

Great interview! It's hard to believe they haven't completed the autopsy and toxicology by now. In fact, I don't believe it. Why aren't they releasing the info to her family??

The really interesting part I hadn't heard before is that her phone wasn't in her hotel room. It was tracked to another part of the city but never found if I heard correctly? If so, that really indicates foul play, IMO.

I totally missed the part about the phone and didn’t ask follow-up questions. There was so much going on, but I promised him we could do a follow-up interview. I know this has been hard on him and his entire family but I will ask more questions in the follow-up interview.

 

[DustinTerry]

So, it was not a sock but a blouse??? That's even more suspicious, IMO.

Yes, very suspicious. And the fact that the Philadelphia police aren’t doing anything and didn’t ask the grandson about her physical health while suggesting it was physical health or what she was like, or not asking him anything despite him living with her for many years. I honestly think American Airlines wants people to forget about this incident and the industry too because it creates too much scrutiny for how their operations are not secure when it comes to flight crews. I think they want it buried because they messed up. Maybe that is just conspiratorial thinking but also his reference to a person who was over the flight crews safety is telling.

 

[Ssschu]

I totally missed the part about the phone and didn’t ask follow-up questions. There was so much going on, but I promised him we could do a follow-up interview. I know this has been hard on him and his entire family but I will ask more questions in the follow-up interview.

Great job bringing attention to this case so the family can hopefully get closure. I can't even imagine what they're going through.

This seems like the type of case Ashleigh Banfield would cover on her TV show because things just aren't adding up (especially if her phone pinged elsewhere). Try submitting it and maybe she'll cover it.

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