PA PA - District Attorney Ray Gricar Mysteriously Disappeared - Bellefonte 15 April 2005 #18

[J. J. in Phila]

wait, he made out a check for 10K in cash? that's weird considering his expenses etc. he has exhibited a reluctance to finance things so maybe it jives but hmmm. unless he didn't buy something...this is just more the same mysterious info about Ray.

first off making the check to cash indicates the payee doesn't wish to have connection to the transaction on paper.

could be he gave someone a loan

could be he paid someone to do something under the table like paint his house etc. and they don't have documentation or an account to cash a check.

could be a bought something from an independent seller on the down low.

10K cash with no payee is suss for so many reasons . also such a large amount of cash, as you say " the limit"

can they prove ray wrote this check? Do you know when it was written?

mOO

I do not know the details, except that LE was making the inquiry.

Other than being written on a Citizen's Bank account, I do not know any details.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

wait, he made out a check for 10K in cash? that's weird considering his expenses etc. he has exhibited a reluctance to finance things so maybe it jives but hmmm. unless he didn't buy something...this is just more the same mysterious info about Ray.

first off making the check to cash indicates the payee doesn't wish to have connection to the transaction on paper.

could be he gave someone a loan

could be he paid someone to do something under the table like paint his house etc. and they don't have documentation or an account to cash a check.

could be a bought something from an independent seller on the down low.

10K cash with no payee is suss for so many reasons . also such a large amount of cash, as you say " the limit"

can they prove ray wrote this check? Do you know when it was written?

mOO

I did want to note a few things:

1. We know that RFG paid for the Mini outright. This could have been a deposit if written 2004 around the purchase time.

2. We know that an HVAC dealer called the house on the morning of 4/15/05 regarding some repairs.

3. He did make gifts to his daughter. If there had been delays in checks clearing, he could have handed it to her during a visit. Even a cashier's check can take a few days.

4. He might have wanted to open an account at another local bank.

While there are reasonable explanations, it does raise a red flag.

 

[Sleuth2010]

Every time I see a red Mini Cooper I think of him.

Maybe a family member or friends / co-workers could place a memorial plaque or park bench to honor him. Obviously dearly missed and a crime that should be solved.

 

[Lebowski]

Im still hung up on the sightings from Saturday, the day AFTER he went missing. If this was foul play, where did he go Fri night and why would he be allowed to be out in public/broad daylight the next day..nor ask for help!? If it was the walk a way theory, sounds like there was a kink in the plans that set him back a day. Strange though to return to the same place...Ray had to have known he was reported missing by now and people/LE were looking for him.
I wonder how credible these sightings really were (?)

or at least the same day sightings in the antiques shop. those sightings, if legit (and i take them seriously because IIUC it's where his car was found), have always made me suspect a voluntary disappearance. or at least that he was up to something (romantic rendezvous?) that somehow went badly. the searches for how to destroy a hard drive and the discovery of the hard drive separated from the laptop add to the case, IMO.

chilling at shops could have been waiting for someone to pick him up. and hanging out with an unknown woman (if the witnesses were right that they were together) doesn't sound like someone about to commit suicide.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

or at least the same day sightings in the antiques shop. those sightings, if legit (and i take them seriously because IIUC it's where his car was found), have always made me suspect a voluntary disappearance. or at least that he was up to something (romantic rendezvous?) that somehow went badly. the searches for how to destroy a hard drive and the discovery of the hard drive separated from the laptop add to the case, IMO.

chilling at shops could have been waiting for someone to pick him up. and hanging out with an unknown woman (if the witnesses were right that they were together) doesn't sound like someone about to commit suicide.

I think that there is about a 92% chance that one of these two things is the explanation for RFG's disappearance.