PA - Ellen Greenberg, 27, Philly teacher’s brutal stabbing, ruled suicide but possible homicide, Jan 2011

[Chimera]

What gets me is how cool, calm and collected the boyfriend's behavior was as he casually strolled into the gym, which was captured on security camera. Nonetheless, I can't think of anyone who could stab themselves that many times and withstand the pain, I go to pieces when I get a paper cut. Not to mention that in my own attempted reenactment of the moves she would have to make, she would have to have very flexible, even double jointed arms. It's just too absurd to even entertain the idea of suicide.

Ita.

Graphic comment :

To stab yourself in the back of the neck and head, you'd have to possibly put both hands on the knife and plunge it in.
The problem as I see it is you can't get enough force with one or both hands while drawing them away from your back -- to push the blade in as deeply as her wounds were.
It's literally impossible.
Imo.

 

[Same Old Stella]

Ita.

Graphic comment :

To stab yourself in the back of the neck and head, you'd have to possibly put both hands on the knife and plunge it in.
The problem as I see it is you can't get enough force with one or both hands while drawing them away from your back -- to push the blade in as deeply as her wounds were.
It's literally impossible.
Imo.

Exactly. It would take almost inhuman strength and flexibility of movement.

 

[snarast]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1977814035694276689

O M G

I didn’t even notice until now. Oh this is surreal.

 

[snarast]

Exactly. It would take almost inhuman strength and flexibility of movement.

And really carved up hands. If she was holding the knife’s blade as she was stabbing herself at the very back of her neck.

 

[Chimera]

“young woman suffering from anxiety.

Stunning new ruling in mysterious 2011 stabbing death of Philly teacher Ellen Greenberg

Greenberg was found with stab wounds all over, including the back of her head and her heart.

nypost.com

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According to Simon young women with anxiety are prone to stab themselves multiple times till they die.

Jmo

Generally with women, sleeping pills or an overdose of something.
Possibly jumping ?
Very rare to stab oneself multiple times.

It's the location and severity of the wounds that gives pause.
So according to the link Ellen beat herself up, too ?
Ridiculous.

So sorry her parents are having to listen to all of this.
Omo.

 

[RobertCatesby]

Generally with women, sleeping pills or an overdose of something.
Possibly jumping ?
Very rare to stab oneself multiple times.

It's the location and severity of the wounds that gives pause.
So according to the link Ellen beat herself up, too ?
Ridiculous.

So sorry her parents are having to listen to all of this.
Omo.

Amy Fry-Pitzen committed suicide by "slashing her wrists and neck and overdosing on antihistamines", so it does happen on occasion. But in most cases, including that one, I agree that some kind of drugs or pills are usually involved. With Greenberg, it was such obviously a homicide it's insane. We need to be talking about who did it, not the manner of death.