Identified! PA - Fort Indiantown Gap, WhtFem 12-20, 609UFPA, extensive dental work, covered w/ plastic, Oct'73 Ruth Elizabeth Brenneman

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I know you were probably already ready going to do this, but I just wanted to mention it. There's no published rule out list, so when compiling your list, will you please peruse the previous pages to see who has already been submitted? Quite a few have. This will save a ton of time in the end and prevent repeats.

Wish we could get more people interested in helping out with identification. My to-do list is two pages long and growing...and there's so much more that needs to be done.
 
  • #62
I've never submitted before, I'm just a list-maker.

So, Stats for the deceased:
White Female Light hair
5'5-5'8
16-19
From the SE

This is what I found from CharleyProject:

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Joyce Brewer
White female light hair
5'7
18 in October of 1973
Grand Prairie, Texas


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Carlene Tengelsen
White female with light hair
5'9 (One inch taller than range)
17 in October of 1973
Macon Georgia


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Gail Joiner
White female light hair
5'0 (5 inches shorter than lower estimate)
14 in October of 1973 (I've heard the age estimate go as low as 12 so I wouldn't say she's too young just yet)
Some city I can't spell in Florida

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Christene Seal
White female with newly frosted hair that could appear blonde
5'8

23 in October of 1973 (4 years older than estimate)
Verona Missouri (Which is in the green area on the isotope test

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Judy Davis
White female with reported blonde hair
5'3 (Two inches shorter than estimate)
17 in October 1973
Jacksonville Florida


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Alexis Duggan
White female darker hair
5'4 (One inch shorter than estimate)
22 in October 1973
Tampa Florida

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Alice Reeves
White female dark hair
5'7
26 in October 1973
Calcasieu Parish, Louisiana


That's all for Charley. Next is Namus/Doe
 
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Debora Lowe
White Female light hair
5'5-5'6

14 in October 1973
Was actually from West Virginia and did not grow up in Florida but she did disappear from Florida.

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Sherry Jones
White female dark hair
5'3
24 in October 1973
Greer, South Carolina


And there's one that I want to include even though she was reported to have been last seen "sometime" in 1974

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Margie Snead
White female dark hair
5'5
17-19 on October 1973
Hot Springs, Arkansas
 
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  • #65
The only one I can think of right now is Pamela Hobley because of her typical nose, there is problem with the haircolor and she she went missing with another girl.

Pamela Hobley missing since October 31, 1969, 15 years UID found October 10, 1973 than she would havebeen 19

Missing from Oscoda,Iosco Co, Michigan, UID found Jonestown, Lebanon County, Pennsylvania, not fitting in isotopes.
Missing 5'6 to 5'8,100 -115 lbs, with her length she was not heavy build. UID 67 = 5’7”, Estimated and thin build.
Missing brown hair,brown eyes (according to her mother she had shiny black hair en black eyes),UID light brown hair, reddish long, eye color unknown
Both a typical nose
Missing Scar on theleft side of her mouth and a scar across the bridge of her nose. UID notstated, body Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction
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  • #67
Alexis seems to have a slightly bending nose....

Yeah, there really didn't seem to be anyone with such a dramatic nose bend like that. If it was a runaway it could have been a result of an injury that happened after they were last contacted.
 
  • #68
Might be a stretch, but does anyone know if Sheryl Tillinghast has been compared Sheryl Ann Tillinghast – The Charley Project This Jane Doe was brought up as a possibility on her own thread. She is 3 inches below the low end of the height range, but due to the 25-year delay in her being reported missing it's hard to tell the accuracy of the information given; particularly that by September 1973 she had been living away from the family home for about eight months. She was never brought to a dentist while she lived at home, but it is possible that she went to one after leaving; particularly if she had issues with her teeth that needed attention. This could account for the discrepancy between the Jane Doe having extensive dental work and Sheryl presumably having none. She was allegedly involved in an abusive relationship at the time of her disappearance and the April before she went missing her boyfriend was arrested for assaulting her. Details from an article published in Sheryl's hometown that I find to be of particular note: "After he was apprehended hours later by law enforcement, he was arraigned in court, but a relative promptly posted his bail. In October 1973, a court appearance regarding the alleged assault was set up, but by then Tillinghast was already gone. The case fizzled out." (Bold is mine, article:<modsnip: broken link>). There would definitely be motive on his part to make Sheryl disappear before the case went court. I wonder if the boyfriend had any ties to Pennsylvania.
 
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  • #69
I have a hard time here with this UID...especially when you consider the isotopes.... (but who said it would be easy?) Don't want to be mixing everything up, but when searching I came across another young UID from august 1973 http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184260/1/screen found in Florida and then, seeing the missing girls brought up here...could be compared to her too...
 
  • #70
Might be a stretch, but does anyone know if Sheryl Tillinghast has been compared Sheryl Ann Tillinghast – The Charley Project This Jane Doe was brought up as a possibility on her own thread. She is 3 inches below the low end of the height range, but due to the 25-year delay in her being reported missing it's hard to tell the accuracy of the information given; particularly that by September 1973 she had been living away from the family home for about eight months. She was never brought to a dentist while she lived at home, but it is possible that she went to one after leaving; particularly if she had issues with her teeth that needed attention. This could account for the discrepancy between the Jane Doe having extensive dental work and Sheryl presumably having none. She was allegedly involved in an abusive relationship at the time of her disappearance and the April before she went missing her boyfriend was arrested for assaulting her. Details from an article published in Sheryl's hometown that I find to be of particular note: "After he was apprehended hours later by law enforcement, he was arraigned in court, but a relative promptly posted his bail. In October 1973, a court appearance regarding the alleged assault was set up, but by then Tillinghast was already gone. The case fizzled out." (Bold is mine, article:<modsnip: broken link>). There would definitely be motive on his part to make Sheryl disappear before the case went court. I wonder if the boyfriend had any ties to Pennsylvania.

Glad you are thinking about this. I don't know, she has an obvious gap between her front teeth. Wouldn't they have mentioned that with our UID? And she is from NY, so that would not fit in the isotopes.

Same thing here when I looked at Megan Emerick... Have you seen this child? Megan Siobhan Emerick
she looks to have a typical nose, but she is missing from Alaska.....and probably killed by the creap Robert Hansen (brrrr)
 
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  • #72
I've never submitted before, I'm just a list-maker.

So, Stats for the deceased:
White Female Light hair
5'5-5'8
16-19
From the SE

This is what I found from CharleyProject:

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Joyce Brewer
White female light hair
5'7
18 in October of 1973
Grand Prairie, Texas


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Carlene Tengelsen
White female with light hair
5'9 (One inch taller than range)
17 in October of 1973
Macon Georgia


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Gail Joiner
White female light hair
5'0 (5 inches shorter than lower estimate)
14 in October of 1973 (I've heard the age estimate go as low as 12 so I wouldn't say she's too young just yet)
Some city I can't spell in Florida

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Christene Seal
White female with newly frosted hair that could appear blonde
5'8

23 in October of 1973 (4 years older than estimate)
Verona Missouri (Which is in the green area on the isotope test

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Judy Davis
White female with reported blonde hair
5'3 (Two inches shorter than estimate)
17 in October 1973
Jacksonville Florida


Stay tuned. It only lets me post five attachments per post

Hi there....you should teach me how you do do this with the links you are using...cool!
 
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According to the now-retired PSP Corporal who had Jane Doe's case in 2006, Sheryl was ruled out in 2005 via fingerprint comparison. I still have his email regarding this possible match.
Thank you CCJD for letting all of us know. As you probably know by following the thread this Jane Doe's NamUs rule out list is not made public so any confirmed eliminations are very much appreciated here. As far as I can tell, that makes two: Sandra Hopler 1955 Pennsylvania, and Sheryl Tillinghast 1956 New York.
 
  • #76
If anyone else has rule outs from individual submissions, please post them so we can get our own list going to make them easier to keep track of.
 
  • #77
So this might be a long shot, but I wanted to throw it out there none the less.
Diane Lee Todd: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
She went missing in April '73, so there's quite a few months between her disappearance and the discovery of Jane Doe's body. She was also only 5'3. She went missing from Fairfax County VA, which is right on the top of the isotope map.
I've only managed to find one picture of her, and she doesn't look like the sketch, but there is more resemblance with the 3D facial reconstruction (especially in black and white).
She also looks quite young to be 18, and since they have the age rage from 12-20 I figure that might fit.
What do you think? Worth a shot?
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  • #78
I've never submitted before, I'm just a list-maker.

So, Stats for the deceased:
White Female Light hair
5'5-5'8
16-19
From the SE

This is what I found from CharleyProject:

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Joyce Brewer
White female light hair
5'7
18 in October of 1973
Grand Prairie, Texas


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Carlene Tengelsen
White female with light hair
5'9 (One inch taller than range)
17 in October of 1973
Macon Georgia


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Gail Joiner
White female light hair
5'0 (5 inches shorter than lower estimate)
14 in October of 1973 (I've heard the age estimate go as low as 12 so I wouldn't say she's too young just yet)
Some city I can't spell in Florida

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Christene Seal
White female with newly frosted hair that could appear blonde
5'8

23 in October of 1973 (4 years older than estimate)
Verona Missouri (Which is in the green area on the isotope test

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Judy Davis
White female with reported blonde hair
5'3 (Two inches shorter than estimate)
17 in October 1973
Jacksonville Florida


Stay tuned. It only lets me post five attachments per post

So I've been doing some digging, and I think we can rule out Gail Joner. She moved to Florida from Michigan with her family just a few months before her disappearance. That means she grew up outside the isotope map and she's probably not "our" Jane Doe.
 
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  • #79
Suggestions made in this thread forthis uid, a summery:

Barbara Jean Aleksivich (Maiden NameJones) from Bath NY / submitted by CarlK by e-mail to Investigator Wheaton (post2-1-2012, # 2) / Unknown if she is ruled out.


Sandra Hopler / submitted by Taramarie as a potential match to this UID about 4 years ago (ca. 2010) to the Pennsylvania State Police, who are in charge of Sandra's case. (post 10-15-2014,# 9 / They had already been compared & were not a match / Ruled out


Helen Allison / suggested by Migmuu in thread (post 03-20-2015, # 10 / Follow up?


Betsy Langjahr / thought by LE to be UID / found alive and safe / # 14 / Ruled out


Jan Cotta / DD Byrd states
&#8220;This Doe's DNA is currently being tested against Jan Cotta's - missing in 1973 from NJ&#8221;(post 10-14-2015, # 15) / Follow up?

Dianne Todd, missing April 1973 from Virginia / suggested by catherene. (post 01-08-2016, # 22) and ms indigojazz(post 04-04-2017, # 82) / Follow up?


Rosemarie Roginski / suggested by HerStory (post 03-23-2016, # 25) / Reaction by CCJD &#8220;The LE contact is the same for both the unidentified girl and Rosemarie so pretty good bet she's being checked and is likely how/why Rosemarie was put into NamUs&#8221;, Carbuff also wants her to be submitted / Unknown of she is submitted and/or ruled out / follow up?


Rosemary E. Hamilton Buck / suggested by CountEveryMoment (post
04-23-2016, # 41 / follow up?

A list of suggestions by EmmaliLucia based on dates, stats and isotopes (posts 03-31-2017, # 67, # 68, # 69) containing Joyce Brewer,
Carlene Tengelsen, Gail Joiner (
post 04-11-2017, # 83, by ms indigo jazz , did some digging..Gail Joiner moved to Florida from Michigan with her family just a few months before her disappearance. That means she grew up outside the isotope map and she's probably not "our" Jane Doe.Christine Seal, Judy Davis,Alexis Dugan, Alice Reeves, Deborah Lowe, Sherry Jones and Margie Snead /further compairing of the stats and circumstances required to narrow down thepossibilities, imo.

Pamela Hobley / suggested by myself Bit of Hope (post 03-31-2017, # 70) imo no match afterall / not submitted


Megan Emerick / mentioned by Bit ofHope / she is from Alaska, don&#8217;t fit in Isotopes, with 5&#8217;4&#8221; smaller then UID, but something with her nose and other stats fit / decided not to submit (for now)


Sheryl Tillinghast / suggested by theshadow45 (post 04-02-2017,# 73) / CCJD states &#8220;According to the now-retired PSP Corporal who had JaneDoe's case in 2006, Sheryl was ruled out in 2005 via fingerprint comparison(post 04-02-2017, # 79 / considered to be ruled out

If you have any contribution or answers...please fill it in....
 
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I found this girl and thought I would share here just in case

https://www.flsheriffs.org/uploads/star/THE_SHERIFFS_STAR_VOL_17,_NO_5,_AUGUST_1973.pdf

NEWMAN, JULIA, also known as Julia Greene
&#8212;White female. Born 7-15-58; 5' 8", 130 lbs. ,
long blond hair, wears glasses,
has a burn scar on lower part of one leg.
Appears to be 16 or 17 years old.
Was last seen 5-18-73.
Anyone having information about the location of this missing person is asked to contact Criminal Investigator Johnny West, Marion County Sheriff's Department, Ocala, Florida.
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