PA PA - French Creek State Park, Union Twp, BlkFem 21-28, 349UFPA, bag w/ "FA", "O" & "ATER", Jul'88

mjak · Dec 11, 2005

Beyond Belief said:
I am seeing something else in the photo that only shows the ater, but I think I am going bonkers. I'll try to get it up so u can see I am. LOL

I didn't blow this up big enough but it looked like an image just above the letters ater. This is the first photo that was listed. It looks like and old fashion girl sort of sitting/lying back. She has on the old type bonnet, long dress. I made it red so it would stand out.

DO NOT CALL THE MEN IN THE WHITE COATS.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=photogirlred.jpg

Okay, I blew it up myself and I do see what you are seeing. It certanitly does look like a girl in a dress with somekind of bonnet or top hat.

mjak

Beyond Belief · Dec 11, 2005

I can't remember where I saw that, but it seems like on sugar. I don't know.

mjak · Dec 11, 2005

Okay, I blew up both pictures and I discovered the ATER appears to be ATED not R and underneath it are the letters PA as in pennsylavania?? I also see the image Beyond Belief is seing now sure if its a girl in a dress with a bonet or a top hat. I would be happy to post these two large images except I haven't got the foggest idea how to do that, sorry.

mjak

mjak · Dec 11, 2005

Beyond Belief said:
I can't remember where I saw that, but it seems like on sugar. I don't know.

I recognize that image too but not sure from where. We need to think!!!
lol. Domino Sugar??

mjak

PS. if anyone calls the men is white I guess we can get adjoining rooms and a two for one rate

Beyond Belief · Dec 11, 2005

Thats what I thought, I have the sugar, she's not on there. I was thinking Old Dominion, but I don't even know what that is. Weird, probably a tv flashback. Did Wendy's change their logo to the red hair pig tailed girl or was that original?
Maybe its butter or some staple like that. Could be like an Amish ad.

docwho3 · Dec 11, 2005

While I was looking for possible matches to the pic I found this site with some interesting sounds that play in the background (once it gets the sounds loaded)
and I was leaving that sound to play in the background while working on the image project today.
http://www.expo-famico.com/

Beyond Belief · Dec 11, 2005

mjak said:
Okay, I blew up both pictures and I discovered the ATER appears to be ATED not R and underneath it are the letters PA as in pennsylavania?? I also see the image Beyond Belief is seing now sure if its a girl in a dress with a bonet or a top hat. I would be happy to post these two large images except I haven't got the foggest idea how to do that, sorry.

mjak

10-4 on the PA. I saw that in both photos.

Hollow · Dec 11, 2005

Beyond Belief said:
Thats what I thought, I have the sugar, she's not on there. I was thinking Old Dominion, but I don't even know what that is. Weird, probably a tv flashback. Did Wendy's change their logo to the red hair pig tailed girl or was that original?
Maybe its butter or some staple like that. Could be like an Amish ad.

Isn't there an image like that on Morton salt boxes???

mjak · Dec 11, 2005

After blowing up the picture i belive the letters ATED appear on the bottom not ATER and after that I see the Letters PA. I am wondering if this bag was manufactred at the associated Bag company of pennsylvania. See link.
http://www.thomasnet.com/branchprofile.html?what=Bags%3A+Plastic&sort=&sortby=&cid=20081205&navsec=branches

mjak

Is someone who is more comfortable then I contacting people would like to send the picture of the bag to the associated bag company to see if it is their bag and they can identify it that would be great.

Beyond Belief · Dec 11, 2005

that or bread or maybe sweet sue products. i feel like i saw it on a box. isn't mortons a girl with an umbrella.

Some kind of old fashion bread maybe.

Beyond Belief · Dec 11, 2005

mjak said:
After blowing up the picture i belive the letters ATED appear on the bottom not ATER and after that I see the Letters PA. I am wondering if this bag was manufactred at the associated Bag company of pennsylvania. See link.
http://www.thomasnet.com/branchprofile.html?what=Bags%3A+Plastic&sort=&sortby=&cid=20081205&navsec=branches

mjak

Maybe, but if its a large company they could be shipped in from anywhere. I get our bags from Atlanta and I am in south Florida. Company supplies them.

mjak · Dec 11, 2005

Beyond Belief said:
Maybe, but if its a large company they could be shipped in from anywhere. I get our bags from Atlanta and I am in south Florida. Company supplies them.

Prehaps but it might be worth if someone wants to email the picture of the bag to the assoicated bag company of PA to see if they can Id it. I am a bit shy of contacting people, sorry.

mjak

Beyond Belief · Dec 11, 2005

Me, too, but I think if we can see these things so can someone else.

Beyond Belief · Dec 12, 2005

Berks County Pa, is Pennsylvania Dutch country. I wonder if that's a Dutch girl.
Orangeboom beer has a dutch girl on it, couldn't find photo.
Royal Dutch petroleum/Shell stations.

PrayersForMaura · Dec 12, 2005

I think the 49 on the bag is for 49th street, which was probably big at one time or another. There seems to be plans to fix up 49th street...

http://www.ci.gulfport.fl.us/Special_Documents/49th_St_Plan_proposed_art.pdf#search='the%2049th'

PrayersForMaura · Dec 12, 2005

Pictures:

docwho3 · Dec 12, 2005

PrayersForMaura said:
I think the 49 on the bag is for 49th street, which was probably big at one time or another. There seems to be plans to fix up 49th street...

http://www.ci.gulfport.fl.us/Special_Documents/49th_St_Plan_proposed_art.pdf#search='the%2049th'

I do note that the font on that J.J. Furniture Refinishing seems to be similar to the font used on our bag. I wonder if its just that common a font or if one company is doing signs and bags etc in that area.

Boatswain'sMate · Dec 12, 2005

Here's a picture showing a "Food Fair" that includes a picture of their paper bags from -- whenever those cars in the picture were current.http://www.dcgrocery.com/
(This link will take you to the main page, then click on "Food Fair/Grand Union," and it's in Pg 5 of the album.)

The picture named "locations" on pg 1 of the album shows that there was a Food Fair in Lancaster, PA, which is the closest "city" to where the body was found. This picture also shows a very similar logo font to our "FA."

One problem is that it looks to me like Food Fairs were defunct possibly by the later 80's. I'll look that up. But how about this -- she was murdered by a frugal person who saved grocery bags for years.

Well anyway, all the albums are interesting on this site as far as grocery stores and logos go.

Edited to add: I just joined that group, and I'd like to get their help in identifying the bag, but don't know if I'd have permission to link to the enhanced pictures in the Yahoo album. Waiting for your permission docwho3.

docwho3 · Dec 12, 2005

Boatswain'sMate said:
Here's a picture showing a "Food Fair" that includes a picture of their paper bags from -- whenever those cars in the picture were current.http://www.dcgrocery.com/
(This link will take you to the main page, then click on "Food Fair/Grand Union," and it's in Pg 5 of the album.)

The picture named "locations" on pg 1 of the album shows that there was a Food Fair in Lancaster, PA, which is the closest "city" to where the body was found. This picture also shows a very similar logo font to our "FA."

One problem is that it looks to me like Food Fairs were defunct possibly by the later 80's. I'll look that up. But how about this -- she was murdered by a frugal person who saved grocery bags for years.

Well anyway, all the albums are interesting on this site as far as grocery stores and logos go.

Edited to add: I just joined that group, and I'd like to get their help in identifying the bag, but don't know if I'd have permission to link to the enhanced pictures in the Yahoo album. Waiting for your permission docwho3.

This might get you there to page 5 without all the link clicking.
http://groups.msn.com/dcgrocery/foodfair.msnw?Page=5

or page one of the set
http://groups.msn.com/dcgrocery/foodfair.msnw

bag photo at
http://groups.msn.com/dcgrocery/foodfair.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=35

Boatswain'sMate · Dec 12, 2005

docwho3 said:
This might get you there to page 5 without all the link clicking.
http://groups.msn.com/dcgrocery/foodfair.msnw?Page=5

or page one of the set
http://groups.msn.com/dcgrocery/foodfair.msnw

bag photo at
http://groups.msn.com/dcgrocery/foodfair.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=35

Ah, thank you, doc. My os and browser do weird things sometimes. Can I link the yahoo page you put up to that group? Or maybe you already have?

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