PA - Grace Packer, 14, murdered, Abington, 4 July 2016 *Killer died*

  • #541
Unrelated... but relevant. David

NJ SCHOOL OFFICIALS TURN BLIND EYE TO TEACHER'S "CLASSROOM OF HORRORS", SIGN "PRIVACY AGREEMENT" ALLOWING KNOWN PEDOPHILE TO OBTAIN NEXT TEACHING JOB, WHERE HE RAPED A FIRST GRADE GIRL http://www.nj.com/somerset/index.ssf/2017/01/judge_blast_school_officials_for_allowing_pedophil.html

SOMERVILLE, NJ: Somerset County Superior Court Judge Robert B. Reed admonished school officials from the Butler and Montville school districts for their handling of a former first-grade teacher with a history of molesting female students during the teacher's sentencing Friday.

JASON FENNES, 44, of Bloomfield, New Jersey, was relieved of his duties from both school districts after molesting students and signing a privacy agreement. That agreement, said Reed, allowed Fennes to later secure a job at the Cedar Hill Prep School in Franklin Township, where he was indicted for molesting a first-grader there.

"Their conduct is only slightly less despicable than yours," Reed said to Fennes before sentencing him. "These school officials committed the egregious act of turning a blind eye to the situation and by their silence became complicit and an accomplice to this crime... They hid your crime from public view, from the very people who they are paid to protect," the judge said. "How could they fail to report this conduct and simply pass this pedophile along. This is known as 'passing the trash.' These school administrators are rarely penalized for failing to report these pedophiles. But that I could only have those people before me... There are no consequences for these administrators," said Reed, pounding his fist.

"I wish those officials from Butler and Montville were sitting behind the defense table with Mr. Fennes." Reed said he regretted he couldn't sentence Fennes to a longer term and that he couldn't sentence school officials from the Butler and Montville school districts to jail time.

During their victim's impact statements, the parents of the first-grader gave a tearful account of what their daughter endured and continues to endure. They gave a graphic description of the abuse heaped upon their daughter by Fennes. They talked about how she had to be examined for a sexually transmitted disease. "Words can't express the devastation you have visited upon my family," said the victim's father. "It was a classroom of horrors. How do I process this, not being able to protect my child? I'm worried that my daughter will be OK when she gets older."
 
  • #542
Another weird fact I just found out about E Cherry R., a sex offender lives across the street. Possibly those were the people not happy with you and the Mrs. taking photos....
 
  • #543
Wow. That's an amazing fact! I plan to verify that myself, since the details should be public.

So, to recap…

JEFFREY HARVEY, POI in "PA FURRY SEX RING" has an address near the location where Grace Packer's remains were discovered. Jeffrey Harvey, 40, lives in West Wyoming, Luzerne County, PA. On Oct. 31, 2016, Grace Packer's dismembered body was discovered near Francis Walter Dam in Luzerne County, PA, which is 21 MILES/30 MINUTES from West Wyoming in Luzerne County, PA. See https://goo.gl/maps/nahdionjLHE2

KENNETH FENSKE, POI in "PA FURRY SEX RING" has an address in Quakertown PA (2724 N Old Bethlehem Pike, Quakertown, PA) which is 4 MILES/8 MINUTES from 990 E CHERRY ROAD, QUAKERTOWN PA (Grace Packer Murder Scene). See https://goo.gl/maps/EKGZnkGib5L2

Now, a registered sex offender appears to live across the street from 990 E CHERRY ROAD.

As you know, I have asked “WHY QUAKERTOWN?”, that is, why did Sara Packer/Jacob Sullivan choose to rent a home 40+ miles from their prior homes in Abington/Glenside PA area. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...4-July-2016-*Arrests*&p=13109127#post13109127

Could the “density” of sex offenders (registered and alleged) near 990 E CHERRY ROAD, QUAKERTOWN PA (Grace Packer Murder Scene) in any way help explain “WHY QUAKERTOWN”?

Food for thought. David

Another weird fact I just found out about E Cherry R., a sex offender lives across the street. Possibly those were the people not happy with you and the Mrs. taking photos....
 
  • #544
Another weird fact I just found out about E Cherry R., a sex offender lives across the street. Possibly those were the people not happy with you and the Mrs. taking photos....

Thanks for your question regarding our brief interaction with people who lived adjacent to 990 E CHERRY ROAD, QUAKERTOWN PA.

As you know, Mrs. F and I visited 990 E CHERRY ROAD, QUAKERTOWN PA on Sun Jan 15 2017 afternoon as shown in http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...4-July-2016-*Arrests*&p=13074723#post13074723

In a subsequent post, I remarked “And while I was taking pictures of 990 E. Cherry Road house (standing in the road), the tenants of the adjacent farmhouse were not, shall we say, very welcoming. “ See http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...4-July-2016-*Arrests*&p=13107792#post13107792

You may view a birdseye view of E CHERRY ROAD, the house at 990 where the murder occurred, the larger home adjacent (behind) the 990 house, etc. at http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...4-July-2016-*Arrests*&p=13113162#post13113162

I’d like to add some more narrative about our Sun Jan 15 2017 afternoon visit to 990 E CHERRY ROAD, QUAKERTOWN PA.

Mrs. F and I drove down E CHERRY ROAD on a sunny Sunday afternoon. Yet even in full daylight, I can only describe the approach to the home as “creepy”. Of course, we were both aware of the grisly details of the murder that occurred there. Still, we found the drive down this long, heavily wooded country road to be offputting. I have a brief video of the drive approaching 990 E CHERRY ROAD but I am unsure if posting that video would be appropriate here. Regardless, I feel the “approach” to this location would be “creepy” even without prior knowledge of the Grace Packer murder.

We parked on the 990 side of E CHERRY ROAD. Near where we parked, the adjacent home behind 990 house offered an outdoor shed or kiosk where people could purchase firewood/kindling, leaving money on an honor system, and we parked next to that. Mrs. F and I were acutely aware to be respectful of property and persons. The total time we spent at this location would be under 3 minutes, I recollect.

Mrs. F remained in our car, and I exited with my phone camera. I remained on the road at all times. I walked just a few paces from the car to face the front/right side of 990 E CHERRY ROAD house, which appeared vacant.

In the time it took me to walk a few paces from our car to 990 house, an older white female exited the larger home adjacent (behind) the 990 house. The larger home is set farther back from E CHERRY ROAD than 990 house. The female yelled “What are you people doing? You people need to stop!” It is safe to say she was yelling loudly, as Mrs. F heard the female clearly from inside our car with windows closed.

As the woman yelled, I stopped taking photos. I immediately returned to our car. I did not respond vocally or gesture in any way. I got into the car and we drove away.

We felt a quick exit was both respectful, as well as more safe. As Mrs. F remarked as we drove away, this locale seemed to be the kind where property owners might choose to “shoot first and ask questions later”. Full disclosure: I never felt threatened by actions taken by the female.

But creepy? Yes. Creepy is the word.

David
 
  • #545
BREAKING NBC10 VIDEO! SARA PACKER FOSTER CHILD CRYSTAL RODACK REPORTED SEX VIDEOS OF GRACE PACKER TO CASE WORKERS "YEARS AGO"; NO FOLLOWUP!

Grace Packer's Foster Sister Blew Whistle on Dad's Abuse
By Deanna Durante http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...h-of-Grace-Packer_Philadelphia-412738353.html

"A former foster child of Sara and David Packer says she took information to police years ago about the abuse of Grace Packer. Now, questions are looming about whether authorities checked on Grace after that. The 14-year-old was killed and dismembered last year. Her mother and her mother's boyfriend are accused in her killing."
 
  • #546
Sara Packer appears to routinely lie on official documents, as well as forge documents.

IMHO, every document produced by, or associated with, Sara Packer should be questioned by document examiners... including the JACOB SULLIVAN HANDWRITTEN SUICIDE NOTE (JSNOTE).

David

Bucks DA: Mom accused of teen's killing illegally cashed government checks http://www.theintell.com/news/local...cle_99fa4623-2928-5329-82f6-9c885e4345f7.html

“Court documents state Sara Packer repeatedly lied on required Social Security Administration forms and a questionnaire after Grace’s death to make it appear the girl was alive. In a probable cause affidavit released Friday, Bucks County authorities allege Packer stated in a document filed in August that her daughter “still fails eye exams with glasses, needs constant supervision” and is “argumentative and sexually inappropriate, lies often, manipulative, steals.” Packer also said in another document filed with Social Security that, “Grace can have no unsupervised time. She is impulsive and makes dangerous decisions." And Bucks County investigators allege Sara Packer forged her daughter’s name on a Social Security Administration form more than a month after Grace was strangled to death.”
 
  • #547
Another weird fact I just found out about E Cherry R., a sex offender lives across the street. Possibly those were the people not happy with you and the Mrs. taking photos....

The registered sex offender is indeed across the street from 990 E CHERRY ROAD QUAKERTOWN, PA (Grace Packer Murder Scene). A 1 minute walk, as per Bing Maps.

AFAIK, the home associated with that registered sex offender is unrelated to the person that Mrs. F and I interacted with. David

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  • #548
When I read about the furry sex ring (I'm local) I remembered a CSI about them. I thought it was a fictional thing [emoji15]


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IMHO, every document produced by, or associated with, Sara Packer should be questioned by document examiners... including the JACOB SULLIVAN HANDWRITTEN SUICIDE NOTE (JSNOTE).

I agree, also I am wondering how much of all of this K. Albright was aware of, as far as I know, she is laying low, but she was considered I thought I read, a person of interest. I am having a hard time believing she knew nothing about the continued abuse of Grace, and she was staying in that house, while Grace was killed and stored in the attic.
 
  • #551
OK, so that was just a cranky neighbor, lol
 
  • #552
BREAKING NBC10 VIDEO! SARA PACKER FOSTER CHILD CRYSTAL RODACK REPORTED SEX VIDEOS OF GRACE PACKER TO CASE WORKERS "YEARS AGO"; NO FOLLOWUP!

Grace Packer's Foster Sister Blew Whistle on Dad's Abuse
By Deanna Durante http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...h-of-Grace-Packer_Philadelphia-412738353.html

"A former foster child of Sara and David Packer says she took information to police years ago about the abuse of Grace Packer. Now, questions are looming about whether authorities checked on Grace after that. The 14-year-old was killed and dismembered last year. Her mother and her mother's boyfriend are accused in her killing."

She went to her caseworker, the caseworker did not believe her. She then found the phone and brought that to a caseworker, and a detective and that is when David Packer was arrested. Agter that she left, and never heard anything, no one contacted her until Grace went missing. She was only there when Grace, Josh, and the other girl were there, she doesn't know any other children's treatment.
 
  • #553
IMHO, every document produced by, or associated with, Sara Packer should be questioned by document examiners... including the JACOB SULLIVAN HANDWRITTEN SUICIDE NOTE (JSNOTE).

I agree, also I am wondering how much of all of this K. Albright was aware of, as far as I know, she is laying low, but she was considered I thought I read, a person of interest. I am having a hard time believing she knew nothing about the continued abuse of Grace, and she was staying in that house, while Grace was killed and stored in the attic.

David, have you gotten a response from Deanna Durante as to whether anyone in an official capacity is looking into the JS suicide note?

Re: KA & her knowledge of the abuse. I also find it hard to believe, given the sheer volume of red-flag-worthy behavior that's come to light in the couple weeks, that KA knew *nothing* was amiss about that situation. But don't you find it interesting that LE hasn't formally made any charges or even allegations against her? (So far as I know.) 'Course LE didn't make charges against SP when she claimed to not have any knowledge of her ex-husband's sexual abuse against GP & the older foster daughter even though SP's claim strain all credulity and ended up getting her fired.
 
  • #554
http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/...charges-murder-rape-grace-20170203-story.html

^^^

SP has waived her right to a preliminary hearing on both the murder charges & stealing of gov't fund charges on the advice of her attorney. As of right now, JS appears to intend to proceed with his.

Here is a short write-up of why someone might waive a preliminary hearing:

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/when-does-sense-waive-the-preliminary-hearing.html

Avoiding publicity, potentially avoiding additional charges, and avoiding inundating the sentencing judge with graphic details that may sway his/her final decision all seem like they could play a role here.
 
  • #555
http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/...charges-murder-rape-grace-20170203-story.html

^^^

SP has waived her right to a preliminary hearing on both the murder charges & stealing of gov't fund charges on the advice of her attorney. As of right now, JS appears to intend to proceed with his.

Here is a short write-up of why someone might waive a preliminary hearing:

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/when-does-sense-waive-the-preliminary-hearing.html

Avoiding publicity, potentially avoiding additional charges, and avoiding inundating the sentencing judge with graphic details that may sway his/her final decision all seem like they could play a role here.

Thank you. Why would one want to go ahead with a prelim? I'm curious behind the rationale for either as I am not too educated on the topic
 
  • #556
Thank you. Why would one want to go ahead with a prelim? I'm curious behind the rationale for either as I am not too educated on the topic

I don't practice criminal law at all -- so consider that the disclaimer for this post -- but I found this explanation about what a prelim hearing is & why an accused person would not waive it which seems to make sense with the little I know about the subject:

http://www.greghillassociates.com/what-happens-and-what-s-the-purpose-of-a-preliminary-hearing.html

The short answer is that a preliminary hearing is really the first chance that a defendant gets to see/hear the evidence that the state has against him or her & to argue that there's not enough evidence (or strong enough evidence) for the case to proceed to trial. If you waive the hearing, you're essentially guaranteeing a trial will happen (unless you plead out before then).
 
  • #557
(Just seeing this thread and reading about Grace and her case for the first time....unbelieeevable....)
 
  • #558
Blair,

As they say on the internet... IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer)... I am perhaps the least lawyerly person here. :)

So, in plain english, if Sara Packer (or her defense team) waives the prelim hearing... they WANT a trial to happen?

Or... SP side did not want a prelim to happen because any evidence presented might be covered by the press, damaging their chances at a trial (which they believe will happen regardless)? This assumes the press/public may attend the "prelim" and publish about it.

See? Zero percent lawyer. :) David




I don't practice criminal law at all -- so consider that the disclaimer for this post -- but I found this explanation about what a prelim hearing is & why an accused person would not waive it which seems to make sense with the little I know about the subject:

http://www.greghillassociates.com/what-happens-and-what-s-the-purpose-of-a-preliminary-hearing.html

The short answer is that a preliminary hearing is really the first chance that a defendant gets to see/hear the evidence that the state has against him or her & to argue that there's not enough evidence (or strong enough evidence) for the case to proceed to trial. If you waive the hearing, you're essentially guaranteeing a trial will happen (unless you plead out before then).
 
  • #559
Blair,

Thanks for asking!

1) As for Deanna Durante, no response yet. I recently tweeted to her a 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] time (see below) and will update with any response. My tweets to Deanna Durante (and others) are publicly visible at https://twitter.com/david_r_feeney

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2) As for Katherine Allbright, I have stated here that the only person covered LESS in the media than Jacob Sullivan has been Katherine Allbright. It certainly is interesting that both media, and law enforcement, have paid almost no attention to KA to date. Is that because there is nothing worthy of their focus? Or incompetence? Or does Sara Packer completely overwhelm both media and LE, rightly or wrongly?

IMHO: There appear to be aspects of Katherine Allbright’s background, and involvement in the Grace Packer murder, that definitely warrant continued attention from both media and law enforcement.

For example: I have been reviewing the 20+ photos from inside 429B SUMMIT AVE, HORSHAM PA, see https://hotpads.com/429-summit-ave-horsham-pa-19044-trgjnh/b/pad and I urge everyone to carefully review them while the photos are still available.

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429B SUMMIT AVE HORSHAM PA Bathroom Left, Bedroom Mere Feet Away

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429B SUMMIT AVE HORSHAM PA Bathroom with Door Open

As per charging documents, on Fri Dec 30 2016, KA discovered Jacob Sullivan post-suicide, made 911 CALL 1, and 911 EMS workers entered 429B SUMMIT AVE, HORSHAM PA and transported JS to Abington Hospital., KA later made 911 CALL 2 at 723PM that same evening, in which KA claims she returned to 429B SUMMIT AVE, HORSHAM PA, found Sara Packer unresponsive on the bathroom floor, and transported SP to Abington Hospital in her personal vehicle. Of course, in 911 CALL 2, KA is relaying these facts to 911 emergency operators hours(?) after the emergency is over… one of the most inexplicable and bizarre actions taken by KA in this entire case.

Ask yourself: Does it seem humanly possible that Katherine Allbright and multiple EMS workers were able to enter that very small 1 bed/1bath apartment, render emergency medical aid, and then transport Jacob Sullivan out, while somehow NEVER DISCOVERING an unresponsive Sara Packer mere feet away in the 1 bathroom of the home, presumably dying?

A bathroom which, in order for Sara Packer to remain undiscovered, must have BEEN CLOSED and REMAINED CLOSED for the entire time that Katherine Allbright was in the home, before and during the time EMS/KA dealt with Jacob Sullivan transport, until Katherine Allbright returned from Abington Hospital back to 429B SUMMIT AVE, HORSHAM PA (hours later?) and, finally, opened the bathroom door?

Followed up by KA’s inexplicable and bizarre 911 CALL 2?

Katherine Allbright’s actions on Fri Dec 30, 2016, to quote Blair, begin to “strain all credulity”.

David

David, have you gotten a response from Deanna Durante as to whether anyone in an official capacity is looking into the JS suicide note?

Re: KA & her knowledge of the abuse. I also find it hard to believe, given the sheer volume of red-flag-worthy behavior that's come to light in the couple weeks, that KA knew *nothing* was amiss about that situation. But don't you find it interesting that LE hasn't formally made any charges or even allegations against her? (So far as I know.) 'Course LE didn't make charges against SP when she claimed to not have any knowledge of her ex-husband's sexual abuse against GP & the older foster daughter even though SP's claim strain all credulity and ended up getting her fired.
 

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  • #560
Blair,

Thanks for asking!

1) As for Deanna Durante, no response yet. I recently tweeted to her a 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] time (see below) and will update with any response. My tweets to Deanna Durante (and others) are publicly visible at https://twitter.com/david_r_feeney

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2) As for Katherine Allbright, I have stated here that the only person covered LESS in the media than Jacob Sullivan has been Katherine Allbright. It certainly is interesting that both media, and law enforcement, have paid almost no attention to KA to date. Is that because there is nothing worth of their focus? Or incompetence? Or does Sara Packer completely overwhelm both media and LE, rightly or wrongly?

IMHO: There appear to be aspects of Katherine Allbright’s background, and involvement in the Grace Packer murder, that definitely warrant continued attention from both media and law enforcement.

For example: I have been reviewing the 20+ photos from inside 429B SUMMIT AVE, HORSHAM PA, see https://hotpads.com/429-summit-ave-horsham-pa-19044-trgjnh/b/pad and I urge everyone to carefully review them while the photos are still available.

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429B SUMMIT AVE HORSHAM PA Bathroom Left, Bedroom Mere Feet Away

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429B SUMMIT AVE HORSHAM PA Bathroom with Door Open

As per charging documents, on Fri Dec 30 2016, KA discovered Jacob Sullivan post-suicide, made 911 CALL 1, and 911 EMS workers entered 429B SUMMIT AVE, HORSHAM PA and transported JS to Abington Hospital., KA later made 911 CALL 2 at 723PM that same evening, in which KA claims she returned to 429B SUMMIT AVE, HORSHAM PA, found Sara Packer unresponsive on the bathroom floor, and transported SP to Abington Hospital in her personal vehicle. Of course, in 911 CALL 2, KA is relaying these facts to 911 emergency operators hours(?) after the emergency is over… one of the most inexplicable and bizarre actions taken by KA in this entire case.

Ask yourself: Does it seem humanly possible that Kathleen Allbright and multiple EMS workers were able to enter that very small 1 bed/1bath apartment, render emergency medical aid, and then transport Jacob Sullivan out, while somehow NEVER DISCOVERING an unresponsive Sara Packer mere feet away in the 1 bathroom of the home, presumably dying? A bathroom which, in order for Sara Packer to remain undiscovered, must have BEEN CLOSED and REMAINED CLOSED for the entire time that Katherine Allbright was in the home, before and during the time EMS/KA dealt with Jacob Sullivan transport, until Katherine Allbright returned from Abington Hospital back to 429B SUMMIT AVE, HORSHAM PA (hours later?) and, finally, opened the bathroom door?

Followed up by KA’s inexplicable and bizarre 911 CALL 2?

Katherine Allbright’s actions on Fri Dec 30, 2016, to quote Blair, begin to “strain all credulity”.

David

Hi! Question for you. Why on earth did KA call 911 AFTER the fact?! Just to fill them in, that she'd taken - in her private vehicle - a person to the hospital? Odd.


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