PA - Her arm stuck in drop-off bin, woman freezes

[Elley Mae]

I have looked for the size of the bin but can not find that info, but I have found that the salvation army was not happy that the boxes look like theirs and have been confusing to folks. I have seen that they (usagain) has changed to a green and white box.

I found an image of one at link, not that it is the same size but is like it in appearance, the shape of the top. I do know that the bins are not short, I assume that is for a reason. It's hard to gauge the height of the bin in Natalie Pa without something close it to have a reference.

I also wonder if she had a h3 hummer and not a standard hummer, there is a 6" difference in height,

Image of one at link below.

http://www.ithaca.com/news/clothing...cle_c67c8ab8-8e13-11e5-bd09-ef9806581a30.html

 

[wolfbeard]

This is the size I was thinking of.

FWIW we have a ton of the smaller ones scattered throughout Maryland and Delaware. I've seen lots of these in Pennsylvania too. Typically, the larger donation boxes are in high traffic areas (there's a larger one near a nearby Walmart, for example) while the smaller ones are in lower traffic areas. In other words, larger bins are closer to bypasses while these smaller ones are scattered around neighborhoods, small towns, etc.

It's my understanding she was in a low traffic area. From the pattern I've seen in the area, it's nearly a given she was trapped in a smaller version.

 

[wolfbeard]

I feel bad for this lady, really bad....I feel like if she really needed the clothes that badly that other people don't want and want to donate, then does it matter which needy recipients hands the clothes ultimately end up in? Whoever donated the clothes I'm sure just wants them to end up with someone who needs them, could use them. Idk....it's an interesting discussion re: morality....now if she was selling them, that might be a little different. I just don't think it's a huge crime to take clothes from a donation bin if you need them that badly. Sorry, jmo, I realize this might not be a popular opinion, dont be too hard on me guys!

There's so many easier ways to get free clothes though. She could go to a Goodwill and take some clothes that may be dropped off outside, go to a homeless shelter, anything like that.

 

[margarita25]

There's so many easier ways to get free clothes though. She could go to a Goodwill and take some clothes that may be dropped off outside, go to a homeless shelter, anything like that.

True, but she probably just wanted first pick of the litter....

 

[Elley Mae]

True, but she probably just wanted first pick of the litter....

True acording to LE she had rumaged through the bags she removed and pulled items out.

 

[margarita25]

Did she have grandkids?

 

[Jax49]

Did she have grandkids?

Yes, four were listed in the obit.

 

[margarita25]

(I bet people do this in Colorado every day...there are homeless people everywhere by the masses...and growing...)

 

[margarita25]

Yes, four were listed in the obit.

That must be whom she was getting the clothes for, my guess.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

I feel bad for this lady, really bad....I feel like if she really needed the clothes that badly that other people don't want and want to donate, then does it matter which needy recipients hands the clothes ultimately end up in? Whoever donated the clothes I'm sure just wants them to end up with someone who needs them, could use them. Idk....it's an interesting discussion re: morality....now if she was selling them, that might be a little different. I just don't think it's a huge crime to take clothes from a donation bin if you need them that badly. Sorry, jmo, I realize this might not be a popular opinion, don't be too hard on me guys!

I might feel bad for her too if she truly needed the clothing. She was driving a gas guzzling hummer that she even left running. I have to wonder what her motive was for taking from the donation bin.

 

[wolfbeard]

That must be whom she was getting the clothes for, my guess.

She was driving a Hummer, I assume if she was buying clothes for grandkids she would have purchased brand new clothes.

 

[Elley Mae]

For all we know she was stocking up to have a yard sale. jmo

 

[Satch]

I haven't read the details of this case yet,


But what safety measures could be put in place to prevent this type of occurrence from happening again?

Satch

 

[killarney rose]

I haven't read the details of this case yet,


But what safety measures could be put in place to prevent this type of occurrence from happening again?

Satch

People could stop stealing from the bins.......

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

It is weird to me that this thread has almost 100 posts and yet threads for folks who are missing sometimes get barely a glance. I'm here too, so I promise I am not scolding or pointing fingers, I just found it interesting. Like many of you (I assume, since we're here on WS), we like to know why people do what they do.

Regardless, this is so very sad and tragic for those who knew and loved her.

 

[Elley Mae]

I haven't read the details of this case yet,


But what safety measures could be put in place to prevent this type of occurrence from happening again?

Satch

Put a sign in it. "People have died stealing from this container"

 

[wolfbeard]

It is weird to me that this thread has almost 100 posts and yet threads for folks who are missing sometimes get barely a glance. I'm here too, so I promise I am not scolding or pointing fingers, I just found it interesting. Like many of you (I assume, since we're here on WS), we like to know why people do what they do.

Regardless, this is so very sad and tragic for those who knew and loved her.

It's because it's such a relatable thing. We can't imagine ourselves missing or murdering someone, but we've all at least thought about taking a candy bar out of a vending machine at least once in our lives. If circumstances were different for most of us, it's not a big stretch to say that we too may find ourselves stretching our arm into the hatch of a donation drop box...

 

[wolfbeard]

I haven't read the details of this case yet,


But what safety measures could be put in place to prevent this type of occurrence from happening again?

Satch

Put a camera on them.

 

[margarita25]

Re: the hummer, rhetorical question:

I remember one year I delivered a thanksgiving dinner to a needy family through an organization. When we went to drop off the items, they had a big screen tv, tons of electronics, a decent home...does this mean they were not in need?

The other day I gave some of my groceries to someone who was begging for money outside the grocery store. I basically went to bed hungry that night bc there was no food in the house. The next day I saw her and 2 others seated in a group loafing at the Starbucks watching music videos. She had speakers, iphones, gadgets...here I am working and there she is not working. I immediately questioned just how "needy" this lady was and found myself having a twinge of resentment for going to bed hungry. Then I realized that when you do something for someone, you do it not expecting anything in return, but doing it bc you feel it's the right thing. And that if she is begging for money then she needed the food more than me.

It's a different situation kind of from what we are discussing, not sure what I'm trying to say.

I guess I'm just saying if she was desperate enough to take the items from the bin, then she must have really needed them? Idk...I've been the victim of a burglary and it was heart wrenching to have everything I worked for taken. But these are donated items in a bin, just seems different to me somehow...

Eta: Maybe you guys are right, stealing is stealing...whatever the case I feel really bad for her.

 

[Elley Mae]

It's because it's such a relatable thing. We can't imagine ourselves missing or murdering someone, but we've all at least thought about taking a candy bar out of a vending machine at least once in our lives. If circumstances were different for most of us, it's not a big stretch to say that we too may find ourselves stretching our arm into the hatch of a donation drop box...

bbm it is for me. I could and would never do it. If I did happen to accidentally put something in it, I would call the number and ask when it was to be emptied so I could be there and get back what I put in by mistake. To tell the truth I don't know how a mistake like that could happen, especially at 2 am, but that's just me. jmo

I once found a $50 dollar bill on the floor at a liquor store which also cashed checks, I talked to the guy at the check cashing counter and told him I wanted him to hold it in case someone came back inquiring about it, he said OK come back in a week if it's still here it's yours. I went back and he handed to me. I don't steal/take what does not belong to me. jmo