Found Deceased PA - Linda Stoltzfoos, 18, Bird-in-Hand, Lancaster County, 21 June 2020 *arrest* #2

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  • #441
Andrew Forgotch
@AndrewABC27

@Lancaster_DA
says they believe Stoltzfoos was harmed and that her family did NOT know Justo Smoker (the man charged with kidnapping her).

Andrew Forgotch
@AndrewABC27

@Lancaster_DA
says they are still looking to track Justo Smoker the days before he is said to have kidnapped Linda Stoltzfoos.

Jackie De Tore
@jackiedetore

@Lancaster_DA
says investigators believe Stoltzfoos was harmed.
@fox43

Joel D. Smith
@JoelDReports

Update on search for Linda Stoltzfoos: she is still missing , they believe she was harmed, - ongoing investigation

BarbaraBarrWGAL
@BarbaraBarrWGAL

D.A. Heather Adams on Stoltzfoos case @WGAL
state and local police along with FBI here. She did not know Smoker. They believe Linda was harmed.

Grace Griffaton
@GraceGriffaton

Search locations for Linda Stoltzfoos are NOT being released to the public as each could be a potential crime scene, officials say.
@fox43

Andrew Forgotch
@AndrewABC27

Member of @FBI
says there is still a reward being offered for tips that could lead them to Linda Stoltzfoos.
 
  • #442
I appreciate the posts about RAD. I didn't have the courage to bring it up, but my husband has RAD so I have experience with it. Yes, Reactive Attachment Disorder is a diagnosis, although a new term for it is Developmental Trauma Disorder (DTD). Although any doctor familiar with RAD can diagnose it based on symptoms, it can be seen as incomplete brain development, or holes, on an MRI scan.
Brousblog1a-Perry-brains-X-sec-300x165.jpg

Left: Normal 3 yr old. Right: 3 yr old with ADD

An neurological scan will show abnormal brain function.

the-abused-brain-e1511175244891.jpg

Left: Healthy Right: Traumatized childhood (Romanian orphan)
The front (top in picture) part of the brain is where most of the normal thinking processes occur. The normal brain on the left is properly most active (Red areas) in the front part. The traumatized brain on the right has little (blue) to no (black) activity in much of the front area. The only significantly active area is the back part.

So this is very partial, simplified description of proper brain development... An infant has a need. Infant cries. Infant's stress hormone (cortisol) levels rise. Caregiver takes care of need. Infant relaxes and cortisol levels return to normal. Repeat cycle. This continual rise and fall of cortisol levels prompts the brain to develop in the proper order. First the back, primitive part develops, which includes the Fight, Flight, or Freeze response. Next, the middle and then the front parts develop. These areas control personality, behavior, emotions (and control of them), empathy, conscience, reasoning, trust, and ability to form relationships, to name a few.

When the caregiver doesn't take care of the infant's need, the baby's cortisol level stays high. Without the needed cycle of rising and falling cortisol to trigger advancement through the development phases, the infant's brain gets stuck in the back part. The front part isn't damaged, but it doesn't develop. The child grows up having only the Fight, Flight, or Freeze method to deal with any stress, no matter how small. Mentally, their brain progresses from "I can't trust anyone to meet my needs. I'll have to take care of myself" to "I will (literally) die if I let anyone get close to me." Children with RAD become adults with personality disorders, alcoholism, substance abuse, and addictions to gambling and 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 in particular is a problem because the RAD adult finds in much too frightening to form a real relationship with anyone, and turns to a fantasy world that doesn't involve personal connections. This post is long enough, but I want to post again with thoughts about the obstacles involved with "trying" to get treatment for RAD.
 
  • #443
Grace Griffaton @GraceGriffaton
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Lancaster County District Attorney Heather Adams says all evidence points to Linda Stoltzfoos being harmed after abduction. She says Linda's family does not know Justo Smoker.
@fox43


 
  • #444
FBI agent chose the word recovery when mentioning Linda. :(

Respectfully, I don't think they will find her alive, just sad that they can't rescue her.
 
  • #445
Highly aggravating that sound was lost when the State Trooper was speaking!

JMVHO.
 
  • #446
Incredible hearing they had 500+ trained volunteers to help with the search (if I understood that statement correctly that they are all trained?)
 
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Color me confused. But if JS is adopted, then he’s only legally related right? Not blood relation?
I’ve seen it mentioned numerous times that JS was living on the street at the age of 7 when he was adopted. Does that mean his family brought him to the Lancaster area and abandoned him? Or does that mean he was living on the streets in DR and brought here to be adopted? He was not born in the US?
 
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  • #449
Color me confused. But if JS is adopted, then he’s only legally related right? Not blood relation?
You got it Limecat. I think he most likely has numerous Smoker relatives via adoption in various towns in and around Lancaster County including aunts, uncles, cousins, great aunts, great uncles etc.
 
  • #450
Color me confused. But if JS is adopted, then he’s only legally related right? Not blood relation?
You got it Limecat. I think he most likely has numerous Smoker relatives via adoption in various towns in and around Lancaster County including aunts, uncles, cousins, great aunts, great uncles etc.
 
  • #451
I’ve seen it mentioned numerous times that JS was 7 years old and living on the streets. Does that mean his family brought him to the Lancaster area and abandoned him? Or does that mean he was living on the streets in DR and brought here to be adopted? He was not born in the US?

That's a horrible situation!

I'd like to read more about this - could you please provide a link?

ETA: Nevermind! I found it.

Justo Smoker: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
 
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  • #452
Andrew Forgotch
@AndrewABC27

@Lancaster_DA
says they believe Stoltzfoos was harmed and that her family did NOT know Justo Smoker (the man charged with kidnapping her).

Andrew Forgotch
@AndrewABC27

@Lancaster_DA
says they are still looking to track Justo Smoker the days before he is said to have kidnapped Linda Stoltzfoos.

Jackie De Tore
@jackiedetore

@Lancaster_DA
says investigators believe Stoltzfoos was harmed.
@fox43

Joel D. Smith
@JoelDReports

Update on search for Linda Stoltzfoos: she is still missing , they believe she was harmed, - ongoing investigation

BarbaraBarrWGAL
@BarbaraBarrWGAL

D.A. Heather Adams on Stoltzfoos case @WGAL
state and local police along with FBI here. She did not know Smoker. They believe Linda was harmed.

Grace Griffaton
@GraceGriffaton

Search locations for Linda Stoltzfoos are NOT being released to the public as each could be a potential crime scene, officials say.
@fox43

Andrew Forgotch
@AndrewABC27

Member of @FBI
says there is still a reward being offered for tips that could lead them to Linda Stoltzfoos.

If they are still trying to track him it sounds like he either left his phone at home or turned it off. Not good.
 
  • #453
Color me confused. But if JS is adopted, then he’s only legally related right? Not blood relation?

In addition to the adoption, this is truly not a story because everyone in these intimate Amish communities are related. It is not uncommon to find birth defects in these communities due to close genealogy. I'm not surprised at all that they were able to find a distant relative of the Smoker family related to a distant relative of the Stoltzfoos family. As law enforcement said in the press conference, there is absolutely no reason (thus far) to believe Smoker knew Linda in any capacity.
 
  • #454
Bryanna Gallagher
@BGallagherTV

Officials say they are trying to piece together a timeline of where Justo Smoker was leading up to the disappearance of Linda Stoltzfoos and days after.
@FOX43
His car is in police custody.
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Andrew Forgotch
@AndrewABC27

Recap from press conference = police are still looking for Linda Stoltzfoos, they confirm that her family did NOT know Justo Smoker, police say case is priority, and investigators will not reveal locations of searches because "each could be a crime scene".
 
  • #455
Thanks for the PC recaps, I missed it!
 
  • #456
That's what I was afraid of it is sad that yet another innocent life has been cut short and a family is left to grieve and pick up the pieces. I wish he would just tell the family where she is so they can at least give her a proper burial and begin the healing process.
 
  • #457
That's a horrible situation!

I'd like to read more about this - could you please provide a link?

TIA.

Justo Smoker: Man Charged With Kidnap of Missing Amish Girl | Heavy.com

“Justo Smoker was adopted by Vernon and Deb Smoker of Lancaster, Pennsylvania when he was 7 years old. Before that, he was “living on the street, just trying to survive,” his defense attorney, Cory Miller, told a judge when Smoker appeared in court to be sentenced on robbery charges in 2007, according to Lancaster Online.”
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I was asking the question of where JD was “living on the street” prior to being adopted at age 7.
 
  • #458
I’ve seen it mentioned numerous times that JS was 7 years old and living on the streets. Does that mean his family brought him to the Lancaster area and abandoned him? Or does that mean he was living on the streets in DR and brought here to be adopted? He was not born in the US?
He was born in Dominican Republic and living on the streets at age 7. A Lancaster PA couple adopted him and his then 5 year old brother. He spoke Dominican Spanish when he was adopted but learned the English language.
 
  • #459
I appreciate the posts about RAD. I didn't have the courage to bring it up, but my husband has RAD so I have experience with it. Yes, Reactive Attachment Disorder is a diagnosis, although a new term for it is Developmental Trauma Disorder (DTD). Although any doctor familiar with RAD can diagnose it based on symptoms, it can be seen as incomplete brain development, or holes, on an MRI scan.
Brousblog1a-Perry-brains-X-sec-300x165.jpg

Left: Normal 3 yr old. Right: 3 yr old with ADD

An neurological scan will show abnormal brain function.

the-abused-brain-e1511175244891.jpg

Left: Healthy Right: Traumatized childhood (Romanian orphan)
The front (top in picture) part of the brain is where most of the normal thinking processes occur. The normal brain on the left is properly most active (Red areas) in the front part. The traumatized brain on the right has little (blue) to no (black) activity in much of the front area. The only significantly active area is the back part.

So this is very partial, simplified description of proper brain development... An infant has a need. Infant cries. Infant's stress hormone (cortisol) levels rise. Caregiver takes care of need. Infant relaxes and cortisol levels return to normal. Repeat cycle. This continual rise and fall of cortisol levels prompts the brain to develop in the proper order. First the back, primitive part develops, which includes the Fight, Flight, or Freeze response. Next, the middle and then the front parts develop. These areas control personality, behavior, emotions (and control of them), empathy, conscience, reasoning, trust, and ability to form relationships, to name a few.

When the caregiver doesn't take care of the infant's need, the baby's cortisol level stays high. Without the needed cycle of rising and falling cortisol to trigger advancement through the development phases, the infant's brain gets stuck in the back part. The front part isn't damaged, but it doesn't develop. The child grows up having only the Fight, Flight, or Freeze method to deal with any stress, no matter how small. Mentally, their brain progresses from "I can't trust anyone to meet my needs. I'll have to take care of myself" to "I will (literally) die if I let anyone get close to me." Children with RAD become adults with personality disorders, alcoholism, substance abuse, and addictions to gambling and 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 in particular is a problem because the RAD adult finds in much too frightening to form a real relationship with anyone, and turns to a fantasy world that doesn't involve personal connections. This post is long enough, but I want to post again with thoughts about the obstacles involved with "trying" to get treatment for RAD.

Thank you so much for this informative post, Songbird. As regarding Cluster Bs, I've always personally felt the disorder was due to nurture rather than nature. This bolsters that theory.

MOO
 
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Justo Smoker: Man Charged With Kidnap of Missing Amish Girl | Heavy.com

“Justo Smoker was adopted by Vernon and Deb Smoker of Lancaster, Pennsylvania when he was 7 years old. Before that, he was “living on the street, just trying to survive,” his defense attorney, Cory Miller, told a judge when Smoker appeared in court to be sentenced on robbery charges in 2007, according to Lancaster Online.”
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I was asking the question of where JD was “living on the street” prior to being adopted at age 7.

Thank you!
 
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