Found Deceased PA - Linda Stoltzfoos, 18, Bird-in-Hand, Lancaster County, 21 June 2020 *kidnapping arrest* #3

[Curiosity1234]

If Linda was seen at the Amish Road/Buena Vista Road area going north and then also suspected to have been in the area of Harvest Drive on June 21st, does anyone know which location should of been 1st?
Hello to everyone by the way. I've been following along quietly, but not much to say.

JS drove to Gap with Linda Stoltzfoos in his vehicle right after the abdduction.

 

[sallye818]

Here for Linda today. Praying every day she is soon brought home.

 

[24Roses]

Saw something interesting on my way home from work today. My route from work to home takes me on Amish Road and Buena Vista Road (Where JS’s car was spotted with likely Linda in it). Anyways today I was following a K-9 unit, which was driving slowly, with the dog sniffing out the window.

IMHO, Linda will be found in the Amish Road and Buena Vista Road area. If JS's phone pinged in the area of Harvest Drive, I think it was after he already did "whatever" with her. I don't think I have ever read that LE has a witness of his car being on Harvest Drive with her on June 21st (not that LE has said publicly anyway). I am really interested in that area on Buena Vista Road. I noticed that there is a pond that looks like it is on private property and and elementary school. I know there are houses right across the street from the school, but I wonder if he didn't take her behind the school and then put her in a pond. Actually if you look around there looks to be 2 ponds on Buena Vista and also a lime quarry on a nearby road. خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏
Does anyone know if there has been organized searches on Amish Road and Buena Vista?
Also, thanks to those who quoted my post about what time the Amish people saw him on Amish Road. I couldn't remember the time.

 

[Trackergd]

Saw something interesting on my way home from work today. My route from work to home takes me on Amish Road and Buena Vista Road (Where JS’s car was spotted with likely Linda in it). Anyways today I was following a K-9 unit, which was driving slowly, with the dog sniffing out the window.

Air scent dog. Trying to see if the dog can pick up either Linda's scent or decomposition gasses (depending on the dog's training) carried on air currents.

 

[Hereshecomes75]

24Roses, the Pequea Creek is flowing all through that area too. I don’t know for certain that they searched that area and all that water, but I think it’s likely. Remember how after the initial searches the Amish church districts were asked to conduct searches in their respective areas? That’s a very Amish area.

A lot of the searches centered on the water in a given area, and they also went around and asked the permission of home and business owners to look in their outbuildings and so on. Of course, it couldn’t hurt to check again, especially as water levels change and things can move or be stuck in flowing water.

Maybe JS really didn’t have a plan and was cruising around looking for a secluded area. The known points on his drive make it seem kind of random. The school is a good thought. Unless there’s a basketball court or playground used by area kids, probably not many people were around there since mid-June.

 

[Rosiebones]

Is that school where he went?

 

[Trackergd]

The Amish Rd. and Buena Vista Rd. area does not make much sense to me. It is open country with an almost unobstructed view. Anyone committing a nefarious deed would want to do so without being in the public view. Despite it's popularity with criminals, water is not the best place to hide a body, much more so a rather shallow creek. The lakes are well away from the road. I just don't see JS slogging a body across open fields. It's a risk even at night as most Amish have more than one dog and somewhat unpredictable farm animals. Never know what field that ill tempered bull is hanging out in. Any vehicle parked along those roads late at night for a period of time would draw the interest of the locals and the occasional State Police or Local Police patrols. Dumping the body in a corn field pretty much guarantees that it will be found as soon as harvesting begins. I may have misread a post in the last day or so that quoted JS as saying that she would never be found? Is that from LE, from MSM or someones speculation?

 

[TwoBlueJays]

I've created a timeline for the case and have asked the thread owner if I can post it. Note that the Scribd affidavit link no longer works. Does anyone have it downloaded so I can add it to the timeline?

 

[Trackergd]

If one follows the railroad right of way that all the significant events have occurred along, after you pass Dutchway Industries, you come to the town of Christiana. Just at the Southern end of town where the railroad turns East, there is a waste treatment facility along Valley Avenue (Rt 340). JS is familiar with waste treatment equipment from his job... Also the Jim Landis woodland preserve is nearby.

 

[Hereshecomes75]

Is that school where he went?[/QUOTE

It’s in the school district he attended for high school, but I think he went to a Mennonite school for elementary school.

 

[Hereshecomes75]

If one follows the railroad right of way that all the significant events have occurred along, after you pass Dutchway Industries, you come to the town of Christiana. Just at the Southern end of town where the railroad turns East, there is a waste treatment facility along Valley Avenue (Rt 340). JS is familiar with waste treatment equipment from his job... Also the Jim Landis woodland preserve is nearby.

Gross thought, but what would be left of a body if you put it on the Amtrak line? The engineers wouldn’t probably see it, would they?

 

[Trackergd]

Gross thought, but what would be left of a body if you put it on the Amtrak line? The engineers wouldn’t probably see it, would they?

They would most likely see a body on the track. Most of them have experience with "suicide by train" and are required to stop, walk back and look to see if the person is still alive. Due to liability, most trains have video feed or recording equipment.

 

[Hatfield]

IMHO, Linda will be found in the Amish Road and Buena Vista Road area. If JS's phone pinged in the area of Harvest Drive, I think it was after he already did "whatever" with her. I don't think I have ever read that LE has a witness of his car being on Harvest Drive with her on June 21st (not that LE has said publicly anyway). I am really interested in that area on Buena Vista Road. I noticed that there is a pond that looks like it is on private property and and elementary school. I know there are houses right across the street from the school, but I wonder if he didn't take her behind the school and then put her in a pond. Actually if you look around there looks to be 2 ponds on Buena Vista and also a lime quarry on a nearby road. خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏
Does anyone know if there has been organized searches on Amish Road and Buena Vista?
Also, thanks to those who quoted my post about what time the Amish people saw him on Amish Road. I couldn't remember the time.

Re: BBM and JMO
A "lime Quarry"?

A Quarry would be one place I would definitely want to check and if water in it, it may require Scuba Divers. Quarrys are usually very deep. He may know that if he knows of this Quarry.

And especially if its a Lime Quarry. Isnt Lime used in some applications involving soils and things. Maybe he thought the Lime would help hide the odor of the body or help with decomposition more rapidly or something.

ETA -And yes I found some information that Lime is sometimes used related to dead animals as well as odor reduction. He may have known about lime and its usage.

"The dead animal should be covered with hydrated lime, and then covered with at least 4 feet of soil"

Disposal of animal mortality and byproducts

"Crushed lime placed under the horse’s stall will help absorb ammonia odors and soak up moisture."

"The same principles that make limestone an odor-and-moisture-absorbent material for horse stalls make it an effective ingredient in cat litter."

Common Uses For Limestone | What Can Lime Be Used For?

 

[GizzardMan]

What about placing a body in a dumpster, what are the chances it goes undiscovered at the dump?

 

[Trackergd]

What about placing a body in a dumpster, what are the chances it goes undiscovered at the dump?

Possible. If so she would most likely be in the Lanchester Landfill on Rt 322. They most likely have records on what truck dumped what load in which area of the landfill. If LE gets the idea she is there, it is not as an impossible task as it seems.

 

[GizzardMan]

Practically every business and apartment has a dumpster. Seems like a low tech, low profile and easy way to dispose of something. It appears the location at harvest drive has a dumpster too.

 

[Spartygirl]

Don't know if anyone has noted this or not, Linda's home, the Harvest Drive location of the stockings and bra, JS's house near Leaman Place Junction, The town of Gap where they were seen and JS's Job at Dutchland are all along the same railroad right of way. Hmmm.

YES !!!
That is why I have a feeling he put her somewhere close to the
RR tracks.
He seemed to have "followed" the RR line and is familiar with it.
JMO

 

[Trackergd]

Practically every business and apartment has a dumpster. Seems like a low tech, low profile and easy way to dispose of something. It appears the location at harvest drive has a dumpster too.

True, however it has an inherent risk. If the body is discovered before the truck empties it, 90%+ of the time there is forensic evidence that ties directly back to the actor. Carpet or seat cover fibers on her clothing or body, etc. One can no longer assume that actors are clueless about forensics and DNA what with the plethora of CSI shows on TV.

 

[Curiosity1234]

If Linda was seen at the Amish Road/Buena Vista Road area going north and then also suspected to have been in the area of Harvest Drive on June 21st, does anyone know which location should of been 1st?
Hello to everyone by the way. I've been following along quietly, but not much to say.

JS drove to Gap with Linda Stoltzfoos in his vehicle right after the abdduction.

YES !!!
That is why I have a feeling he put her somewhere close to the
RR tracks.
He seemed to have "followed" the RR line and is familiar with it.
JMO

I think the railroad is a marker for him.

 

[Curiosity1234]

JS drove to Gap with Linda Stoltzfoos in his vehicle right after the abdduction.

I think the railroad is a marker for him.

Any ideas on why he took her to Gap ?