PA - Lindsay Cassidy, 23, & Kolby O'Brien, 3, found strangled, Chester, 28 March 2008

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If a person died after using cocaine then how could strangulation be the cause of death? If you strangle someone already deceased then you commited murder? I don't understand that. Now, having 10X the amount of PCP in your system as your girlfriend then that might bring about some answers. PCP is nasty, nasty, nasty and causes people to go bonkers. They can become violent and have hallucinations so that guy without a doubt may have strangled that poor baby and his mom. How do they know Lindsay hadn't had that cocaine in her system before she even went home? Such a horrible crime and these poor families must still be wanting more answers.http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/Toxicology_results_add_to_mystery_of_4_Chester_deaths.html
 
  • #283
Filly said:
If a person died after using cocaine then how could strangulation be the cause of death? If you strangle someone already deceased then you commited murder? I don't understand that. Now, having 10X the amount of PCP in your system as your girlfriend then that might bring about some answers. PCP is nasty, nasty, nasty and causes people to go bonkers. They can become violent and have hallucinations so that guy without a doubt may have strangled that poor baby and his mom. How do they know Lindsay hadn't had that cocaine in her system before she even went home? Such a horrible crime and these poor families must still be wanting more answers.http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/Toxicology_results_add_to_mystery_of_4_Chester_deaths.html
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Filly, Lindsay has a small amount of cocaine that the ME said she did right before her death. The boyfriend didn't have 10x the amount of PCP, Michelle Fynes did. The boyfriend had alot of cocaine in his system.

edited to add...nevermind..I read it wrong.
 
  • #284
I hate when I have to admit I am wrong, but...Indigator...you were correct and I was wrong. The boyfriend did it. Amazing. The cocaine might account for the "clean" apartment as in people on coke are known to clean frantically at times (isn't that crack that makes people take the toothbrush to the tile?!)

I wish the ME had just come out with strangulation instead of suffocation for the COD on the other two. There is a difference.

RIP Lindsay, Colby, and Michelle. Rot in Hell...whatever your name really is.
 
  • #285
Well, you two since I am never wrong I wouldn't know what it's like to admit it. Pfffffffffffff, I've made some hecka errors in life and right here at WS. I know that kids, and by kids I am thinking or hoping late teens smoke that "wet". My gentleman friend lives near a recreation center and we clean out the back all the time and there's all these little bottles. I asked his neighbor what exactly they are and the kid told me it's "wet" which is PCP. They dip their pot in it. I know you can do PCP by itself, but I am wondering if there was also marijuana in the systems of Fynes and whatever his real name is. Like SS said all in all it's just sad. It's more than sad. BTW, Winteryns and SS you are aces for the big admission.
 
  • #286
why where they nude could they tell if they had any sex that wasnt forcefull
 
  • #287
it really made me mad that what they did to her son
 
  • #288
SeriouslySearching said:
I hate when I have to admit I am wrong, but...Indigator...you were correct and I was wrong. The boyfriend did it. Amazing. The cocaine might account for the "clean" apartment as in people on coke are known to clean frantically at times (isn't that crack that makes people take the toothbrush to the tile?!)

I wish the ME had just come out with strangulation instead of suffocation for the COD on the other two. There is a difference.

RIP Lindsay, Colby, and Michelle. Rot in Hell...whatever your name really is.
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What SS said. :truce:
 
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KatK said:
What SS said. :truce:
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LOL Come on Kat you so know you are always admitting you are wrong. LOL Just messing with ya.
 
  • #290
Indigator said:
Blink, I was away and have not had time to read the other case we spoke of...I am interested and will get to it over the weekend.
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I appreciate that- new news, and pending. Thank you
 
  • #291
chains said:
why where they nude could they tell if they had any sex that wasnt forcefull
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I'm very confused as to why they were all found naked. They did say Lindsay wasn't sexually assaulted but did not mention the other two.
 
  • #292
Filly said:
BTW, Winteryns and SS you are aces for the big admission.
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Who said I was wrong??? LMAO

It makes sense to me now that I realize Bryant was the one with the large amounts of PCP. He probably flipped out and killed them. I did not know you could OD on that stuff. I didn't think small amounts of cocaine mixed with that could do it either. I still find this story very strange.
 
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winteryns said:
Who said I was wrong??? LMAO

It makes sense to me now that I realize Bryant was the one with the large amounts of PCP. He probably flipped out and killed them. I did not know you could OD on that stuff. I didn't think small amounts of cocaine mixed with that could do it either. I still find this story very strange.
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Blame Kat K. She said you were wrong, Winteryns. LOL Honestly I didn't know you could OD on PCP either. I'm thinking the bizerker went bonkers with all that embalming fluid in his system and ordered them all to strip. That stuff makes ya bat poop crazy. Winteryns, I agree with you. It sort of sounds like somebody is covering something up for some reason. May Kolby rest in peace that little doll.
 
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Filly said:
Blame Kat K. She said you were wrong, Winteryns. LOL Honestly I didn't know you could OD on PCP either. I'm thinking the bizerker went bonkers with all that embalming fluid in his system and ordered them all to strip. That stuff makes ya bat poop crazy. Winteryns, I agree with you. It sort of sounds like somebody is covering something up for some reason. May Kolby rest in peace that little doll.
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I could see the man going bonkers and killing them all but the naked thing and the OD on PCP sounds odd to me. I am sure I am just looking to much into the drug thing.
 
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winteryns said:
I could see the man going bonkers and killing them all but the naked thing and the OD on PCP sounds odd to me. I am sure I am just looking to much into the drug thing.
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No, I don't think you are Winteryns. Not at all. I wondered the same exact thing. I could see if they said heroin overdose. Obviously I don't know much about PCP thank goodness, but as I mentioned in another post I know the kids call it "wet", and they make a dip. Maybe they call it dip? Something like that. It does cause drops in BP and such so who knows? Ultimately in the longrun it is drugs that caused the homocides and the deaths so yeah it's drugs.
 
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Filly said:
No, I don't think you are Winteryns. Not at all. I wondered the same exact thing. I could see if they said heroin overdose. Obviously I don't know much about PCP thank goodness, but as I mentioned in another post I know the kids call it "wet", and they make a dip. Maybe they call it dip? Something like that. It does cause drops in BP and such so who knows? Ultimately in the longrun it is drugs that caused the homocides and the deaths so yeah it's drugs.
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I was reading on the abc site in the comments from people and it was getting nasty. Some saying they were dealing drugs out of the apt and another saying Bryant kept trying to "get with" Lindsay. Also said Michele was shooting drugs.
 
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winteryns said:
I'm very confused as to why they were all found naked. They did say Lindsay wasn't sexually assaulted but did not mention the other two.
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Sorry guys, I do not buy this scenario. No way. They were all found naked because whoever killed them took them to eliminate evidence.
If the clothes they were wearing were not found, this was a quad- murder no matter how you slice it. I do not believe whatver they were supposedly strangled with was ever found- why would you get rid of it. How are you drugged out of your gourd and have the sense to strip and clean-
If they were dealing drugs, it may have been a turf thing.
 
  • #299
Blink34 said:
Sorry guys, I do not buy this scenario. No way. They were all found naked because whoever killed them took them to eliminate evidence.
If the clothes they were wearing were not found, this was a quad- murder no matter how you slice it. I do not believe whatver they were supposedly strangled with was ever found- why would you get rid of it. How are you drugged out of your gourd and have the sense to strip and clean-
If they were dealing drugs, it may have been a turf thing.
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This isn't an area where the criminals think to clean up...they will leave your a$$ right in the middle of the street. They do not care. I never saw it mentioned that they didn't find their clothes.
 
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You would if you didnt want to bring the heat on the area. Exactly my point they have never said if the clothes were found or not. I believe Lindsey would have been in her uniform when she came home early am on Friday- any word on that?
 
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