PA - Lindsay Cassidy, 23, & Kolby O'Brien, 3, found strangled, Chester, 28 March 2008

[Clearly Confused]

You would if you didnt want to bring the heat on the area. Exactly my point they have never said if the clothes were found or not. I believe Lindsey would have been in her uniform when she came home early am on Friday- any word on that?

No word on that. I am wondering if Fynes and Bryant were babysitting while she worked. No news that I have seen stated who watched the baby while she worked.

 

[Filly]

No word on that. I am wondering if Fynes and Bryant were babysitting while she worked. No news that I have seen stated who watched the baby while she worked.

W, I saw her mom on the news and she said she had babysat while Lyndsay lived at home. Once L came hom after her shift the mom went to work and L helped with a sibling who needs constant care. The mom then explained when L agreed to let M move in it was on the condition she babysit. So, yes Michelle and AKA were watching that little boy.

 

[Clearly Confused]

W, I saw her mom on the news and she said she had babysat while Lyndsay lived at home. Once L came hom after her shift the mom went to work and L helped with a sibling who needs constant care. The mom then explained when L agreed to let M move in it was on the condition she babysit. So, yes Michelle and AKA were watching that little boy.

So sad

 

[speedracer]

Entire Press Conference:

http://www.kywnewsradio.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=1810350

 

[Clearly Confused]

Entire Press Conference:

http://www.kywnewsradio.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=1810350

I listen to it yesterday. Doesn't it seem like they are holding something back?

 

[chains]

what other test are they waiting for?

 

[Blink34]

what other test are they waiting for?

I feel that they got as far as they could get in the investigation and they certainly can't say: "We think X happened but we are not sure," this is the most plausible scenario. It is bad business to have unsolved cases, and certainly legal exposure to someone potentially.

 

[speedracer]

you have to remember that this is an ongoing investigation and they're probably still going through contacts and phone records and waiting for tests results that take a few weeks before they can give definite answers. I'm sure it's difficult to figure out exactly how things happened when the only people in the apartment are all dead.

 

[Blink34]

Perhaps I missed something but I thought this case was closed per the DA announcement last week?

 

[speedracer]

Hi Blink, the case is not closed. There are tests that are pending and it was said at the press conference that it is an ongoing investigation.

 

[Clearly Confused]

Hi Blink, the case is not closed. There are tests that are pending and it was said at the press conference that it is an ongoing investigation.

You are right, case is not closed.

 

[Blink34]

Thanks, then I have to say that if that is the case, it has to be an outside job. If it were not, evidence of the strangulation would be present at a minimum, whether it's dna, murder weapon other than "hands" which if there is no sign of struggle is unlikely. If the crime scene is absent of all the things I mentioned in my earlier blog (work clothes, etc.) If they are clear the COD for the couple is OD, then the content or levels found must not jive for accidental, and they have nothing else?

 

[speedracer]

Blink, I apologize, I have no idea what you mean.
do you mean that someone other than the two who overdosed did it? That has been proven untrue. There had been no one entering or leaving the building as seen on video surveillance and the door was chain locked from the inside. The windows were closed except for one that was cracked open on the second floor with the screen intact. I'm not sure exactly what you meant by your post, bear with me.

 

[speedracer]

forgot to add. There was evidence of strangulation of both mom and baby. That was confirmed.

 

[Blink34]

No apology necessary SR, in my opinion, that has absolutely not been proven untrue, in fact the lack of some evidence is the very reason this case is still open. Think about it, if they were dealing drungs there, what would make anybody think that they would not have developed a way to get around the surveillance camera? I have not seen actual DA confirmation that the surveillance cam was recording that day/evening and that it caught the normal activites, let alone suspect ones..

Is there a downstairs tenant? There are also tools used by prof. burglars to unlatch and relatch the locks as well; it is not "crime proof."
Imo, there is no other explantion as to the "ongoing status of this case"- LE can't prove their own theory. It has not made sense to me from the beginning. Sorry to sound like a broken record again, but my early posts indicating JMB criminal record and perhpas his father and aunt's murder in 1985 I believe are relevant.

 

[Blink34]

forgot to add. There was evidence of strangulation of both mom and baby. That was confirmed.

Yes I am aware of that, there was evidence that they were strangled, but not by what or by whom. If they had a "strangulation instrument" it would have been there and they would have been able to tie it to one or both of the couple. If there are lig marks and no instrument, that is supect. Couple that with no DNA link from a manual strangulation if they felt it was actually someone's hands, again is supect.

I am guessing the entire scene was oddly devoid of physical evidence in a case like this, all the way around. Who commits suicide naked after cleaning feverishly to avoid prosecution for a crime they won't be alive to face charges for?

 

[speedracer]

have you listened to the press conference? You're not from the area where it happened, are you? I am. the surveillance is confirmed. There are two doors to the apartment, a front door on the street and a door to the apartment, both were locked, with the apartment having the chain lock on and no one suspicious activity or persons were seen entering or leaving by the cameras surrounding the building. Impossible to be an outside job. Those two had so much dope in them (so much that it killed them) it's possible that they were nude when found and maybe they cleaned up the place with intent of getting away with it but died first.
I do believe the DA is holding back information. There are inconsistencies in their info.

 

[speedracer]

Hi Blink,
If someone is strangled by someone else's hands would there be dna evidence of that? maybe they are still waiting for dna results, doesn't that take a few weeks? Like I said, I believe they are witholding information. I don't recall the DA ever saying that they did or didn't find what it was that was used.

 

[Blink34]

yes, almost definately there would be of some kind, unless it was deliberately washed off to avoid detection. At a minimum, they would know whether or not they were strangled by a ligature or someone's hands. To my knowledge, there has never been an announcement they were testing dna found at the scene relative to the two "known" homicides. That in itself would concern me as in if they were so positive Lindsey and the baby were killed by the couple why wouldn't they disclose that?

My personal opinion is that they were strangled by a ligature of some kind and the autopsy supports that and the "instrument" is missing from the apartment. If that is the case, the theory of "it's an outside job" stands.

I respect your opinion that you feel an inside job is impossible, however, it is my experience in "crime land" anything is possible. I also know that in the past in an effort to not "tip off" suspects, sometimes LE gives either misleading or incorrect information that they are able to say later was not on purpose to manipulate progress in an investigation. This is not a criticism, they absolutely need to sometimes.

 

[Clearly Confused]

yes, almost definately there would be of some kind, unless it was deliberately washed off to avoid detection. At a minimum, they would know whether or not they were strangled by a ligature or someone's hands. To my knowledge, there has never been an announcement they were testing dna found at the scene relative to the two "known" homicides. That in itself would concern me as in if they were so positive Lindsey and the baby were killed by the couple why wouldn't they disclose that?

My personal opinion is that they were strangled by a ligature of some kind and the autopsy supports that and the "instrument" is missing from the apartment. If that is the case, the theory of "it's an outside job" stands.

I respect your opinion that you feel an inside job is impossible, however, it is my experience in "crime land" anything is possible. I also know that in the past in an effort to not "tip off" suspects, sometimes LE gives either misleading or incorrect information that they are able to say later was not on purpose to manipulate progress in an investigation. This is not a criticism, they absolutely need to sometimes.

They are waiting for more test to come back but did not say what kind.

I was reading on channel six webpage in the comments from people who say they knew the mother and baby and they said Lindsay was strangled from behind...whatever that means.

Also, I have other reasons that I believe they are not coming right out and saying Bryant did it but don't want to post and start an uproar.