Found Deceased PA - Nalani Johnson, 2, Penn Hills Boro, Allegheny County, 31 Aug 2019 *Arrest*

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When children are "found in a park" it should be on a swing or a slide... :( MOO

So true, PommyMommy, so very true! Giggling and having fun... This is all so terrible! :(:(:(
 
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What a terrible tragedy, made worse by all the unanswered questions.

Was the father's call the only evidence that the suspect took the baby?

Can someone recap what address this started at (the hilly area) and where it ended? How long was it before the Uber driver was taken into custody?

Is there a timeline for this case yet?
This is what I have for Saturday:

5:00 PM – Nalani’s father reported her missing; last seen at the intersection of Bryant Dr and Clay Dr in Penn Hills.
5:13 PM – The vehicle was seen at the intersection of Rt. 48 and Rt. 22 in Monroeville.
5:23 PM – Video of Nancy at Sheetz, 4701 Penn Hwy, Murrysville PA
Between 5:30 and 7:30 PM - The vehicle traveled to the Blairsville, New Alexandria and Delmont Areas of Westmoreland County.
6:00 PM - Nancy was in area of Chestnut Ridge Resort (Blairsville)
7:26 PM - A Penn Hills police officer spotted the car Sat. at 7:26 p.m. heading north on Rodi Rd. When the car was pulled over, neither Nalani or her car seat was inside.

I haven't added the park to this map yet. Google Maps

MOO
 
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Who was the last person to see Nalani alive? Aside from Johnson, Rouse, and Nancy? What was happening just prior to the abduction?
They had spent several hours together IIRC, and they were stopping at an acquaintance's house when an argument started between Rouse and Nancy. She claims she told them to get out of her car. MOO
 
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dbm
 
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My son is the general manager of several Speedway stores (very similar to Sheetz). I sent him the photo. He thinks the object in her hand it's a carton of something to drink like milk carton with a handle.

I’m driving over to Sheetz by me to see what looks like that thing.
 
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Is this it?
Grandmother makes emotional plea for toddler's return - CNN Video

Or this one?

Walsh told KDKA her son doesn’t know Nancy, who is an Uber driver, and claims the allegations she’s made against her son are not true.

“If the police felt that (Paul Johnson) was any way involved, he wouldn’t be walking freely,” Walsh said. “He’d be locked up like she is.”

The family said they are offering at $3,500 reward for information leading to Nalani’s return.
'I Feel Helpless': Grandmother Of 2-Year-Old Nalani Johnson Speaks Out After Penn Hills Amber Alert

Or this?
"We miss Nalani and we want her home," said the girl's grandmother, Taji Walsh. "If anyone has any information -- it doesn't matter how big or how small -- please call the tip line, local law enforcement, get that information out to somebody that can use it to keep the investigation going forward so that we can get Nalani home. And any information about the abductor, that helps in the investigation, as well."
NALANI JOHNSON: Search for girl abducted from Penn Hills brings police, FBI to park in Indiana County

Or this?

Johnson's grandmother has denied the child's father had any involvement in the kidnapping.

From WPXI: “She was in a car seat in the back, and he went around to get the car seat out with his daughter. And at the time, he had his hand on the door, and she drove off,” Nalani’s grandfather, Paul Johnson, said.
Latest on Pa. Amber Alert: Toddler still missing as kidnapping suspect, family trade blame

Thank you for that. Trying to find which one for some reason videos are not wanting to play on my phone at the moment.

IMO..that is a pretty important detail of him knowing Nancy. That changes the story to a friend/someone he knew drove off with Nalani from just an Uber/Lyft/jitney driver.
 
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Unfortunately I’ve been thinking the same thing. Why would be not be forthcoming with the fact that he knew her from the very beginning?

I’m trying to find the first video that was posted with the grandmother saying he did not know her. Does anyone have the link?
Everyone keeps saying this. That the father was not admitting that he knew her. Do we know he did not tell police that he had a relationship with her? I’ve seen videos of the grandmother saying it, but not the father. Maybe she didn’t know?
Just curious if there’s a link to that? TIA!
 
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I’m driving over to Sheetz by me to see what looks like that thing.
TY STG, I can’t go for about an hour, I like where Grannie was going, but I’m so confused by the outer bump bump of the “carton”.
 
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Has anyone seen if the presser started? I can’t find it online and WTAE didn’t come on with it at 7
 
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Rahain said he had never heard of Johnson’s name until he spoke with a detective, following his wife’s arrest. Rahain said afterward, he went to his wife’s Snapchat account to investigate. He provided a screenshot of his wife’s friends list, which showed the screen name “pauljohnson-115,” with the display name #BEENTRILL.

Johnson’s mother, Taji Walsh, previously told CBS Pittsburgh that they didn’t know the woman.

We don’t know her personally,” Walsh told the outlet.
Nalani-Johnson-.jpg

Nalani Johnson [Handout]
However, Walsh’s comment came became before a Tuesday afternoon press release, where authorities indicated they had since learned Johnson and Nancy met each other months prior and were in the beginnings of an “intermittent” romantic relationship.
Husband of alleged child snatcher is devastated after seeing wife’s Snapchat [Exclusive]
 
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Unbelievable. It just keeps happening. It's all so senseless.

Why oh why do adults take their anger, angst, whatever, out on innocent and vulnerable babies? Nalani was just the cutest little thing. Adorable.

How many more times will I post these words, "my heart aches for what could have been"?

What kind of a person does something like this?

I guess she wasn't sold after all. So much for that story.

Well Ms. Nancy, I hope every day for the rest of your life you live in abject fear, never knowing if someone is coming for you, and when they do, what they will do to you.

So many tears in heaven today.
This post says it all.
Read it again
I am speechless
BOWING MY HEAD
Thank you @Tealgrove
 
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Rahain said he had never heard of Johnson’s name until he spoke with a detective, following his wife’s arrest. Rahain said afterward, he went to his wife’s Snapchat account to investigate. He provided a screenshot of his wife’s friends list, which showed the screen name “pauljohnson-115,” with the display name #BEENTRILL.

Johnson’s mother, Taji Walsh, previously told CBS Pittsburgh that they didn’t know the woman.

We don’t know her personally,” Walsh told the outlet.
Nalani-Johnson-.jpg

Nalani Johnson [Handout]
However, Walsh’s comment came became before a Tuesday afternoon press release, where authorities indicated they had since learned Johnson and Nancy met each other months prior and were in the beginnings of an “intermittent” romantic relationship.
Husband of alleged child snatcher is devastated after seeing wife’s Snapchat [Exclusive]

Yeah, I was gonna say, this ever-shifting story is screaming "extramarital affair" at the top of its lungs. Nobody knows they know each other... because their relationship is illicit.
 
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From the presser:
  • Autopsy will be performed tomorrow
  • Until COD and MOD have been determined, they can't provide much information
  • Please respect the family's privacy and let them grieve
  • To what extent Nancy is involved is still to be determined
  • The community is not in danger
Jim Madalinsky on Twitter
#Breaking: Authorities confirm that 2 year old Nalani Johnson was found dead here at Pine Ridge Park in Burrell Township Indiana County.
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7:10 PM - 3 Sep 2019
 
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Everyone keeps saying this. That the father was not admitting that he knew her. Do we know he did not tell police that he had a relationship with her? I’ve seen videos of the grandmother saying it, but not the father. Maybe she didn’t know?
Just curious if there’s a link to that? TIA!

Nalani's father did NOT tell LE that he had romantic relationship with Nancy. Nancy's husband found out about their relationship through snapchat and contacted LE himself about it so yeah the father never told LE about his connection with this woman and I find it highly suspect. My source of information on this is at this link:

Husband of alleged child snatcher is devastated after seeing wife’s Snapchat [Exclusive]

Rahain said he had never heard of Johnson’s name until he spoke with a detective, following his wife’s arrest. Rahain said afterward, he went to his wife’s Snapchat account to investigate. He provided a screenshot of his wife’s friends list, which showed the screen name “pauljohnson-115,” with the display name #BEENTRILL.

Johnson’s mother, Taji Walsh, previously told CBS Pittsburgh that they didn’t know the woman.
 
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