GUILTY Pa - One Adult, 20 Students Stabbed At Murrysville High School, 9 April 2014

[swanniee11]

more pictures
http://photos.ldnews.com/2014/04/09/photos-mass-stabbing-at-pennsylvania-high-school/#1

 

[Dogface]

Beth you are not alone in your feelings! Anytime a child commits a crime my heart breaks a little for them. Yes, 16 is old enough to know right from wrong, but at the time they are still, in my eyes a child, not yet equipped to deal with all their emotions. Especially if they haven't been taught how to, or are suffering from any number of things from mental illness to an unstable home. Some 16 year olds seem grown, while some seem so child like. We don't yet know what this kids situation is. And regardless, he will always have to live with these violent actions. I think becoming a mother has made me soft, but, I truly believe when a child acts out in anyway a lot of it comes from pain and confusion. Fortunately most kids acting out is small reblellions and not a mass attack.

I believe he needs to pay for what he has done and I hope along that route he is able to get the help he obviously needs.

 

[PoeticJustice]

I'm gonna say one thing really quick and then be done..so this kid stabs 20 people, none of them die, but we have sympathy for him because he looks like a little boy? If those 20 victims were shot would we be feeling just as sorry? I'm not trying to bash opinions here but I'm blown away...as of right now he is not a victim. Those 20 people are, and if my kid were in ANY way injured by his boy life threatening injury or not, I wouldn't give a rat's a** how sad or "little" he looked. "That doesn't happen in a place like this" is starting to mean less and less these days. It's happening everywhere, and there is a VERY obvious pattern developing with the type of people committing these crimes. They continue to happen in affluent mostly white public schools, and staff and students are still unprotected and vulnerable. When are we going to stop saying "oh he was quiet" "oh he was bullied" "oh he was a weird kid though"?? Enough!!!!

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'm gonna say one thing really quick and then be done..so this kid stabs 20 people, none of them die, but we have sympathy for him because he looks like a little boy? If those 20 victims were shot would we be feeling just as sorry? I'm not trying to bash opinions here but I'm blown away...as of right now he is not a victim. Those 20 people are, and if my kid were in ANY way injured by his boy life threatening injury or not, I wouldn't give a rat's a** how sad or "little" he looked. "That doesn't happen in a place like this" is starting to mean less and less these days. It's happening everywhere, and there is a VERY obvious pattern developing with the type of people committing these crimes. They continue to happen in affluent mostly white public schools, and staff and students are still unprotected and vulnerable. When are we going to stop saying "oh he was quiet" "oh he was bullied" "oh he was a weird kid though"?? Enough!!!!

I have to agree.

This is just another, in a long list, of reasons, I now homeschool.



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[Tulessa]

Thank you guys so much! Early pregnancy hormones are getting to me today! And on top of that, I learned that my daughter's middle school was on modified lock down due to shots fired at the nearby high school!!!
My nerves are shot!!!

Aweee! :loveyou: We are so glad you are back sweetheart! And oh dear!! No wonder you were scared! :scared: No worries though, we can be here for you when you need us! I love your posts btw! :loveyou:

 

[doubt]

I'm gonna say one thing really quick and then be done..so this kid stabs 20 people, none of them die, but we have sympathy for him because he looks like a little boy? If those 20 victims were shot would we be feeling just as sorry? I'm not trying to bash opinions here but I'm blown away...as of right now he is not a victim. Those 20 people are, and if my kid were in ANY way injured by his boy life threatening injury or not, I wouldn't give a rat's a** how sad or "little" he looked. "That doesn't happen in a place like this" is starting to mean less and less these days. It's happening everywhere, and there is a VERY obvious pattern developing with the type of people committing these crimes. They continue to happen in affluent mostly white public schools, and staff and students are still unprotected and vulnerable. When are we going to stop saying "oh he was quiet" "oh he was bullied" "oh he was a weird kid though"?? Enough!!!!

ok. please do get on with fixing it then.

 

[Dogface]

I'm gonna say one thing really quick and then be done..so this kid stabs 20 people, none of them die, but we have sympathy for him because he looks like a little boy? If those 20 victims were shot would we be feeling just as sorry? I'm not trying to bash opinions here but I'm blown away...as of right now he is not a victim. Those 20 people are, and if my kid were in ANY way injured by his boy life threatening injury or not, I wouldn't give a rat's a** how sad or "little" he looked. "That doesn't happen in a place like this" is starting to mean less and less these days. It's happening everywhere, and there is a VERY obvious pattern developing with the type of people committing these crimes. They continue to happen in affluent mostly white public schools, and staff and students are still unprotected and vulnerable. When are we going to stop saying "oh he was quiet" "oh he was bullied" "oh he was a weird kid though"?? Enough!!!!

I am by no means condoning what he did by my sympathies. What he did was cruel, awful, malicious...I could go on for days. And I hope he feels the full consequences of what he has done, both legally and mentally on his own.

What makes me sad is that for some reason he, and others who have committed crimes like his, have not been given the tools they need to be successful as a human. Whether it's something chemically and they need medication, whether they were bullied and didn't have someone to teach them their self worth doesn't rely on what others think of them, abusive home, missing father figure...whatever the cause, it's sad there are so many kids unable to cope with basic life. What else makes me sad is to think that as a child, and yes, in my humble opinion, he is a child, that he was in such a dark place that he somehow justified these actions to himself as being ok. Someone who has been given the right tools in life would never be able to justify this to themselves let alone carry out the act, so what was wrong? To me it's deeper than saying he was a "bad seed" or "evil". I personally do not believe many people are truly born evil. I think it's something else, although I am not sure what.

And even though I have sympathy to a certain degree for him, I am angry that so many are suffering because of his ridiculously stupid, hurtful actions. It infuriates me to think that every child in that school, stabbed or not, will bear a scar from this tragedy. No one deserves to carry that weight that was put upon them. As a mother I could not think of anything worse than getting a call telling me this news. I hope all the victims find comfort in whatever punishment he is dealt.

And I agree, enough is enough. We have to take a deep, dark look at ourselves as a nation and find out why it seems like these attacks are happening over and over again.

 

[Dogface]

I have to agree.

This is just another, in a long list, of reasons, I now homeschool.



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You know, I have been thinking about homeschooling when my little one gets ready to go off to school. Part of me thinks it's just too risky to send my little precious child into such a scary world, then part of me thinks perhaps I am being over worried...thankfully I have some time to consider what I will do.

 

[Linda7NJ]

You know, I have been thinking about homeschooling when my little one gets ready to go off to school. Part of me thinks it's just too risky to send my little precious child into such a scary world, then part of me thinks perhaps I am being over worried...thankfully I have some time to consider what I will do.

Homeschool co-ops are everywhere now! I had no idea it was so popular until I pulled mine out and started looking into it.
We have three co-ops to chose classes from in a 10 mile radius.
No need to fear the dreaded "socialization" aspect any more.



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[CHERIE.T]

ok. please do get on with fixing it then.

No kiddin! :loveyou:

 

[Dogface]

Homeschool co-ops are everywhere now! I had no idea it was so popular until I pulled mine out and started looking into it.
We have three co-ops to chose classes from in a 10 mile radius.
No need to fear the dreaded "socialization" aspect any more.



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Oh my goodness I haven't even heard of that!!! Off to research!!

[modsnip]

 

[Tulessa]

May I add that we embrace ALL opinions! If we pick them apart, feel free to pick a part ours. WS, is about finding the truth, and nothing else, provides the best results!

 

[Sassygerl]

I am by no means condoning what he did by my sympathies. What he did was cruel, awful, malicious...I could go on for days. And I hope he feels the full consequences of what he has done, both legally and mentally on his own.

What makes me sad is that for some reason he, and others who have committed crimes like his, have not been given the tools they need to be successful as a human. Whether it's something chemically and they need medication, whether they were bullied and didn't have someone to teach them their self worth doesn't rely on what others think of them, abusive home, missing father figure...whatever the cause, it's sad there are so many kids unable to cope with basic life. What else makes me sad is to think that as a child, and yes, in my humble opinion, he is a child, that he was in such a dark place that he somehow justified these actions to himself as being ok. Someone who has been given the right tools in life would never be able to justify this to themselves let alone carry out the act, so what was wrong? To me it's deeper than saying he was a "bad seed" or "evil". I personally do not believe many people are truly born evil. I think it's something else, although I am not sure what.

And even though I have sympathy to a certain degree for him, I am angry that so many are suffering because of his ridiculously stupid, hurtful actions. It infuriates me to think that every child in that school, stabbed or not, will bear a scar from this tragedy. No one deserves to carry that weight that was put upon them. As a mother I could not think of anything worse than getting a call telling me this news. I hope all the victims find comfort in whatever punishment he is dealt.

And I agree, enough is enough. We have to take a deep, dark look at ourselves as a nation and find out why it seems like these attacks are happening over and over again.

Thank you..thank you! I have been trying to post all day regarding this KID, but haven't posted for fear of being torn to shreds. There's so much more to what's going on here....he's a kid and more and more of them are doing unthinkable acts. I want to know their background, their homelife, if they were bullied (and bullying is not what it was 20 years ago...kids are ruthless and take it to the net amongst other things). Was he on medications? I've seen my own kid numbed out on antidepressants to the point he told me if I died he wouldn't even cry. I've also been in the parents shoes where the law gets a grip on your child. It's the most helpless feeling in the world. Should he serve life without parole? Not in my opinion. JMO

 

[michmi]

I'm thanking for the brilliant response of all the paraprofessionals, medical professionals, other students, all the way down to the kid that pulled the fire alarm.



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Yes, the kid who pulled the fire alarm....Bravo to him...I wouldn't have had the presence of mind to do that.

 

[lisser]

What I don't understand is why these things are happening to mass amounts of innocent people. I mean, I would understand, and likely have more sympathy for the boy, if he went after the one person or the group of people who was bullying him. That would be revenge, and while still not right, it would make much more sense. It always seems that the people who commit these acts go after the innocent ones who have not hurt or affected their lives in anyway, and do so hell-bent on causing the most injury or death that they possibly can.

I'm glad that this is one perp who didn't off himself, so that maybe he can actually answer the "why" we so often have.

 

[passionflower]

more pictures
http://photos.ldnews.com/2014/04/09/photos-mass-stabbing-at-pennsylvania-high-school/#1

pix 1 look at his knees, ankles, legs.............reminds me of anerexia.
Was he on meds??? not eating? kids make fun of this? something terribly wrong.
I am not condoning what he has done, just wondering out loud if he was getting help??? Any health professionals?
does he remind anyone of the perp in Sandy Hook?

 

[passionflower]

I just remembered on local news they said he used kitchen knives with 6-8 inch blades http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/09/justice/pennsylvania-school-stabbing/index.html

 

[LaborDayRN]

“It was pretty common knowledge between all the kids that he had made some death threats,” said the source, who graduated from the school in 2010 and whose sister is a sophomore there.

At one point, Hribal tackled another student, said the source, who asked not to be named.

“He jumped on the kid’s back and was stabbing him pretty hard,” said the source, whose sister escaped the school unharmed.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/pennsylvania-high-school-stabbing-suspect-source/story?id=23258421

 

[Dogface]

What I don't understand is why these things are happening to mass amounts of innocent people. I mean, I would understand, and likely have more sympathy for the boy, if he went after the one person or the group of people who was bullying him. That would be revenge, and while still not right, it would make much more sense. It always seems that the people who commit these acts go after the innocent ones who have not hurt or affected their lives in anyway, and do so hell-bent on causing the most injury or death that they possibly can.

I'm glad that this is one perp who didn't off himself, so that maybe he can actually answer the "why" we so often have.

Totally agree, why the senselessness of it?

 

[passionflower]

Authorities have not detailed a possible motive in the attack, but the district attorney said in court the teen made "statements when subdued by officials that he wanted to die."

To stanch the bleeding, the teachers asked the students for their hoodies.
"We all took our hoodies off and handed them to the teachers to use as tourniquets to stop the bleeding,"
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/09/justice/pennsylvania-school-stabbing/index.html