Identified! PA - Perry Co, Rte 322, WhtFem 15-38, 11UFPA, UP5166. turquoise jewelry, clothes, Jun'79 Doris Joanne Girtz

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  • #21
Det Hebb retired, but has turned the case over to someone who was on top of it-I will check on the new dentals being entered and get back to you!!


Hey Believe, is that detective that is on top of it happen to be Detective Crosson? He is listed on Simone's Doe Page as the contact person (I wasn't sure if that was old or they updated it). Her Namus file also has a case mgr listed if you have no luck with the Person that is taken the case over for Det Hebb... Here's the link https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2779/0/
 
  • #22
  • #23
Are there any updates regarding this match?

Not sure if this is an update regarding dentals or not.

From namus: dentals available chart will be added later.

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2779/0/

Now this says
Dental information / charting is available and entered

The UID ruleouts list says they've ruled out two people born in 2008, two decades after the UID was found, but Marcia Remick was actually born in 1962and Mary Little in 1965. Maybe that's the year they ruled them out or something. Ridinger is not on the list.


Katherine Anderson 1954 Maryland
Lynn Bandringa 1945 California
Lynn Connes 1955 California
Loy Evitts 1947 Kansas
Corinne Groenenberg 1957 California
Evelyn Hartley 1937 Wisconsin
Paulette Jaster 1954 Michigan
Mary Little 2008 Georgia
Mary Mclaughlin 1938 Michigan
Barbara Monaco 1960 Virginia
Audrey Nerenberg 1958 New York
Linda Peterson/Gustke 1949 Utah
Marcia Remick 2008 Virginia
Betty Roberts 1930 Maryland
Elaine Robertson 1955 Washington
Doris SCANDALIS 1930 California
Diane Schulte 1954 Idaho
Suzanne Schultz 1961 Wisconsin
Martha Shelton 1944 Kentucky
Wilma Vermaas 1952 California
Christina White 1967 Washington
Kathy Wilcox 1956 Michigan
April Zane 1960 Illinois

https://identifyus.org/cases/5166
 
  • #24
  • #25
per the Namus link they now have DNA for this Jane Doe:

Full LOW COPY STR profile at UNT for comparison, complete MITO profile uploaded to NDIS. CL
 
  • #26
There has been no discussion on this case for about a year. Any word on a possible match with Simone Ridinger?

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Unidentified White Female
The victim was discovered on June 20, 1979 in Watts Township, Perry County, Pennsylvania
Estimated Date of Death: Fall 1978-Spring 1979

Vital Statistics


Estimated age: 15-30 years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 5’2"-5’9" (5’6"); 105-125 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: Light brown to blonde, medium-length, straight hair. Victim was a petite white female. Fractured left 9th rib which was partially healed at midshaft.
Clothing: Blue, wool twill knit pants, red thread. White lace blouse. Dark blue, ribbed tank-top. Tan “Mushroom black" label jacket/shirt with zipper on right upper pocket, button down front. White or tan bra, “A” cup. Red and gray, Argyle type socks. White leather buckle-type shoes, inside leather stamped with “G48175 1973”, Size estimated at 8 ¼ inches.
Jewelry: Silver, Avon Brand, buckle chain bracelet (right wrist). Sterling silver, Indian type, oblong ring with Turquoise and Onyx stone. Sterling silver, Indian type, Turquoise, oblong Ring, with matching teardrop earrings and oblong necklace pendant. Sterling silver ring, with black Onyx stone.
Fingerprints: Not Available
Dentals: Dental Chart available.
The skull and dentition showed good dental hygiene. No evidence pf periodontal disease was noted and the posterior teeth were well aligned and not crowded. There was no direct evidence of orthodontic treatment, however it could not be ruled out. There was not evidence of maxillary or mandibular trauma or anatomical anomalies noted. The extraction of the maxillary right first molar, at some time in the teenage years of the decedent was noted. That determination was based on the partial mesial drifting of the maxillary right second molar into the area occupied by the extracted first molar. The extraction occurred approximately 3-4 years prior to death. The maxillary right third molar was impacted in the bone of the tuberosity and not visible externally. The 1979 dental examination thought that the maxillary right first and second molars had been extracted and that the remaining tooth was the third molar. This error undoubtedly occurred from the lack of a radiographic examination which would have revealed the impacted tooth.
DNA: Available in CODIS; on file at the University of North Texas Center for Human Identification.

See Clothing and Jewelry at link below...


Case History


The victim was located on Route 322 Eastbound, over an embankment near the Juniata River, approximately 16 miles west of Harrisburg, PA.

Jewelry may be Navajo and Zuni, originating from New Mexico - Arizona region

Investigators
If you have any information about this case please contact:

Pennsylvania State Police
Trooper Donald L. Chewning
717-567-3110

Email: [email protected]


You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

Agency Case Number: H05-149355

NCIC Number: U-853394087

Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

Source Information:
Pennsylvania State Police
NamUs
The Doe Network: Case File 11UFPA

link:

http://doenetwork.org/cases/11ufpa.html
 
  • #27
Simone is still not on the rule out list.


Here are the current ruleouts: A total of 47

Tammy Akers 1962 Virginia
Katherine Anderson 1954 Maryland
Maria Anjiras 1961 Connecticut
Nancy Baird 1952 Utah
Lynn Bandringa 1945 California
Marilee Bruszer 1944 California
Sandra Butler 1962 Nevada
Benita Chamberlin 1953 Oregon
Diane Chorba 1949 Michigan
Diane Chorba 1949 Michigan
Lynn Connes 1955 California
Brenda Crowley 1963 New York
REBECCA DUNN 1958 Nevada
Loy Evitts 1947 Kansas
Nellie Flickinger 1949 Pennsylvania
Jamie Grissim 1955 Washington
Corinne Groenenberg 1957 California
Evelyn Hartley 1937 Wisconsin
Margaret Hayes 1954 Indiana
Paulette Jaster 1954 Michigan
Rebecca Kellison 1954 Colorado
Tracy King 1960 Pennsylvania
Sandra Landrum 1957 Georgia
Mary Little 2008 Georgia
Mary Mclaughlin 1938 Michigan
Barbara Monaco 1960 Virginia
Audrey Nerenberg 1958 New York
Kristina Perkins 1953 Arizona
Linda Peterson/Gustke 1949 Utah
Denise Porch 1954 North Carolina
Angela Ramsey 1961 Florida
Marcia Remick 2008 Virginia
Betty Roberts 1930 Maryland
Elaine Robertson 1955 Washington
Janis Sanders 1950 Michigan
Doris SCANDALIS 1930 California
Diane Schulte 1954 Idaho
Suzanne Schultz 1961 Wisconsin
Martha Shelton 1944 Kentucky
Mary Shinn 1953 Arkansas
Belinda VanLith 1957 Minnesota
Wilma Vermaas 1952 California
Christina White 1967 Washington
Kathy Wilcox 1956 Michigan
Joanne Williams 1956 Pennsylvania
Cynthia Woolard 1957 Florida
April Zane 1960 Illinois
 
  • #28
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6408/4/

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/minchaca_connie.html

CA CA - Connie Minchaca, 17, Napa, 9 June 1978 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

I did a comparison with this UID and Missing persons on NAMUS.

Connie Michaca was returned. She is not on the exclusion list.

There is very little information on Connie Minchaca in NAMUS.

Connie has fillings, so does the UID.

Details such as height, hair color, and timing match.

Connie has dimples. Based on the artist sketch take a look at the cheeks, it looks as though the UID could have dimples if she smiled.

She was also wearing "Navaho or Zuni" jewelry. Before she was found in Pennsylvania she probably traveled through the southwest.
 
  • #29
The artist would not know from skeletal remains whether the UID had dimples. Skeletal facial reconstructions are not that precise.
 
  • #30
She reminds me of Caledonia Jane Doe. Similar height, weight, ages, both had turquoise jewelry, both found in the same year.

Pollen samples taken from Caledonia Jane Doe's clothing were determined to have come from only four places: Arizona, California, South Florida, or Mexico.

The jewelry found with this Jane Doe may be Navajo and Zuni, originating from New Mexico - Arizona region


Caledonia Jane Doe's thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23127
 
  • #31
Don't let the jewelry be a red herring and throw you off as to where she may be from or have traveled. Native American jewelery was very popular in the 70s. I had some- still have it and still wear it all these years later.

It was readily available in head shops and boutiques and even in mainstream jewlery stores and catalogs too.
 
  • #32
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6408/4/

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/minchaca_connie.html

CA CA - Connie Minchaca, 17, Napa, 9 June 1978 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

I did a comparison with this UID and Missing persons on NAMUS.

Connie Michaca was returned. She is not on the exclusion list.

There is very little information on Connie Minchaca in NAMUS.

Connie has fillings, so does the UID.

Details such as height, hair color, and timing match.

Connie has dimples. Based on the artist sketch take a look at the cheeks, it looks as though the UID could have dimples if she smiled.

She was also wearing "Navaho or Zuni" jewelry. Before she was found in Pennsylvania she probably traveled through the southwest.

BTW, this was submitted to the Doe Network last month.
 
  • #33
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gregory_mary.html

Mary Frances Gregory?

gregory_mary.jpg
11UFPA13.jpg


Missing Feb 1978

Hair colour, height, weight appear right on. There isn't any info I can find on Mary Frances' clothing, dentals, etc.

ETA-she is from Parry Sound ON. The Wasauksing First Nation is right near there.
 
  • #34
Location, timing and description are good - again, for $50,000 or at least a portion of it for finding her - why not?
 
  • #35
Location, timing and description are good - again, for $50,000 or at least a portion of it for finding her - why not?

LOL, I am not interested in that. Does anyone think its worth submitting and is anyone willing to do it? :)
 
  • #36
I will. Will donate any funds received to a worthy group.
 
  • #37
Airplanelamp - submitted this UID to OPP Resolve for a possible match to Mary Frances Gregory (as requested by you in pm).

Reply today was it has been forwarded to the investigating officer.
 
  • #38
Airplanelamp - submitted this UID to OPP Resolve for a possible match to Mary Frances Gregory (as requested by you in pm).

Reply today was it has been forwarded to the investigating officer.

Thanks for doing that.
 
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  • #40
http://www.abc27.com/story/22040531/midstate-mysteries-the-girl-with-the-turquoise-jewelry

Posted: Apr 22, 2013 8:36 AM CDT Updated: May 01, 2013 4:03 AM CDT
By Ali Lanyon
NEWPORT, Pa. (WHTM) -

Perry County Coroner Mike Shalonis keeps a sketch of an unidentified young woman hanging on the wall of his office. "It's just a reminder that's somebody's out there," he said. "Their loved one is missing."

It's a reminder to never forget about the mysterious girl, the only unidentified body currently in the Perry County morgue.


video & more at link.
 

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