Identified! PA - Philadelphia, 'Boy in the Box', WhtMale 4-6, 4UMPA, Feb'57

[Ms Suzanne]

Thomas Paul Watkins 11-9-1953 would fit Dr Wilton M Krogman's prediction of the boy in the box's age and X rays of his bones..This is from America's Unknown Child website -
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Dr. Wilton M. Krogman, professor of physical anthropology at the Graduate School of Medicine, University of Pennsylvania - was called in by the Medical Examiner's office to study the dead boy's physical characteristics. Doctor Krogman found the boy to be forty inches tall: giving him a "height age" of about three years, eight months. But the boy's thirty-pound weight was equivalent to a "weight age" of only about two years and two months. This obviously suggested undernourishment, and the bones confirmed that. With x-rays Doctor Krogman discovered scars of arrested growth on the long bones of the legs. This, he reported to police, "may have been enough to have slowed him down six months to a year in his growth progress." Dr. Krogman estimated that the boy had been in chronic ill health - with accompanying malnutrition - for about a year. He described the boy as having "a long narrow head, a high narrow face, and a high narrow nose." That, to him, was enough to speculate on Northwest European ancestry - Scandinavia, West Germany, or England or Scotland.
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I please need help to see if they are looking into this lead I turned in to NAMUS and the Philadelphia Police Department tip line.NAMUS emailed me she did forward it to the medical examiner and it is up to him to look into it further.I just please need help pushing this lead with the the police and medical examiner.
I turned them in over a month ago.This is a lead for the boy in the box (Unidentified little boy found on February 25th 1957) with a Thomas Paul Watkins.I do think it is a very good lead.I want to know if it's being ruled in or out or if they are even looking at it.----Adoptee Birth Date: 11-9-1953
Adoptee Gender: Male
Adoptee Birth Race: Caucasion
Name given to Adoptee by Birth Parents: Thomas Paul Watkins
Adoptee Birth City: Carlisle, PA
Adoptee Birth County: Cumberland County
Adoptee Birth State: Pennsylvania
Adoptee Birth Country: USA
Adoptee Birth Mothers Name: Betty Watkins
Adoptee Birth Mothers Maiden Name: Shrum
Adoptee Birth Mothers Race: Caucasion
Adoptee Birth Fathers Name: Fred Watkins
Adoptee Birth Fathers Race: Caucasion
Adoptee Birth Hospital: Carlisle Hospital
Adoption Agency or Attorney: Cumberland Court House
Age of Adoptee when Adopted: Around 4 years old ?
Name given to Adoptee by Adoptive Parents: ?
City adoption took place: Carlisle, PA
County adoption took place: Cumberland County
State adoption took place: Pennsylvania
Country Adoption took place: USA
Adoptive Mothers Name: ?
Adoptive Mothers Maiden Name: ?
Adoptive Fathers Name: ?
Searching For: Adoptee, Birth Brothers
All Other Information: Searching for two birth brothers. this is the oldest one birth family of 6 children. Two were adopted out and the others went to foster care. This happened around ?-?-1957. It is my understanding that this birth brother lives in Carlisle but not sure.
Date Received: 12-24-2015
Date Posted: 12-24-2015
Last Updated: 12-24-2015

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I think the best people to look into any leads would be the Philadelphia Police Department Homicide.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

The boy in the box- This was written in 1990.
This is a lead I am very interested in if anyone knows about this please let me know.I wonder what that tip was about.Maybe it should be looked into again.
Only a year ago, Snyder investigated a tip that the boy had been adopted by a Philadelphia family, but nothing came of that.
http://articles.philly.com/…/25913130_1_oldest-case-snyde…/2

 

[CanManEh]

question for all of you...I dont know for sure if iam right and i never looked at the timeing .the boy in the box may have been recovered allready and if someone knows how to put pictures side by side for comparison then maybe you can do it cause i dont know how to anyways i was watching tv and it was about a couple that killed people . One of the people was not been found and im not positive on this but i think they might be the same chile the couple was the moors murders the hindlys the boy his name is keith bennett and i think thats who the boy in the box is..if someone could but the pictures side by side u will see what iam talking about think about keith being emaciated and shorter hair take off the glasses and i swear you have the boy in the box .if you wanna see what iam talking about and put thier pics side by side i really think they could be the same person...check out keith bennett and his pictures remembering he had god knows what done to him but the comparison it sure looks like the boy in the box ..iam curious to read what u all think after checking the too pics side by side...im not saying it is but iam saying it sure looks like the same boy..i also dont know if the timing would line up right .check it out and if your computer savy you could put them side by side that would be awesome if someone could do that...

 

[CanManEh]

Sorry for all the spelling and it being hard to read its really late here and iam very tired....

 

[MelmothTheLost]

One of the people was not been found and im not positive on this but i think they might be the same chile the couple was the moors murders the hindlys the boy his name is keith bennett and i think thats who the boy in the box is..

I'm afraid that's impossible on several counts. Keith was 12 years old when he went missing in 1964.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors_murders

 

[CanManEh]

Alright im sorry the link i was on didnt have any details just pics of the missing ..and i went back to see the boy in the box pic and thought they really looked alike sorry bout that i meant no harm.....

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Alright im sorry the link i was on didnt have any details just pics of the missing ..and i went back to see the boy in the box pic and thought they really looked alike sorry bout that i meant no harm.....

No harm done.

 

[Any123]

I don't know if this picture has been posted before but I wanted to post it because I have a hard time getting the PM pic out of my head and this shows what a cute little boy he was.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Bumped up for him :rose:

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Any news? I pray they find out who he is soon.This is really very sad.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Has anyone heard any updates on this little boy in the box found in 1957 in Philadelphia.I do care very much for him and finding out who he is.What are they doing now to find out who he is.Please let me know if anyone finds out anything ok?

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I pray we can keep this little boys case alive.May I please ask. What are they doing now to find out who he is. Please let me know if anyone finds out ok?

 

[Alleykins]

Here is a pretty recent article, where they believe he may have been raised as a girl, possibly explaining the hasty hair cut he had before his discovery.
Supposedly there is a rendition out there of him portrayed as a girl, but I didn't have time to search for the picture. They hope this theory might spark someone's memory. It doesn't sound like a new theory, though that's how it's presented. The article states an artist out west had depicted what he may have looked like as a little girl back in 1957-1958.
I'm surprised the article didn't have a picture of it: http://6abc.com/archive/6158232/
This article is dated May 2016

 

[Itsmevkb]

I think that article is actually from 2008. Here is a picture I found of him depicted as a little girl.

I'm not quite sure though that I buy into him being raised as a girl. It seems much more likely that the hasty haircut was done to make him less recognizable - which apparently has worked.

 

[CarlK90245]

It seems much more likely that the hasty haircut was done to make him less recognizable - which apparently has worked.

My theory is that he was acting up while getting a haircut, and the person giving him a haircut beat him to death for acting up.

 

[Alleykins]

I think that article is actually from 2008. Here is a picture I found of him depicted as a little girl.

I'm not quite sure though that I buy into him being raised as a girl. It seems much more likely that the hasty haircut was done to make him less recognizable - which apparently has worked.

Yikes! You're right, that is an old article. I looked at the time instead. I apologize for that oversight. And, thank you for the picture!

 

[Alleykins]

My theory is that he was acting up while getting a haircut, and the person giving him a haircut beat him to death for acting up.

That's possible, too.

 

[Alleykins]

Speaking of haircut, I wonder what he would have looked like with curly hair, before the hair cut? My son was about 2 when we finally cut all his off, and he didn't look like the same child at all.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

My theory is that he was acting up while getting a haircut, and the person giving him a haircut beat him to death for acting up.

This is my theory too Carl. I also believe he died in a Orphanage,foster home,institution or being adopted out some place.