Identified! PA - Philadelphia, 'Boy in the Box', WhtMale 4-6, 4UMPA, Feb'57

[Ms Suzanne]

I did find this.This is very good.It is very emotional.I found out who my real birth father was by DNA cousin through Ancestry.He was not alive when I found out about him.But I am very glad I know who he was now.I do pray they can find out who this sweet little boy is.I strongly believe DNA will say who he is.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900011389/everything-you-need-to-know-about-rootstech-2018.html

 

[dotr]

Although Boy in the Box was located in 1957, a perp claimed to have killed a boy in 1959, noting just in case the guy got his years mixed up.
FWIW.
Posted on this thread..
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?24919-Canada-Michael-Dunahee-4-Victoria-BC-24-March-1991&p=13967631#post13967631
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/new-link-in-cold-case-of-victoria-boy-missing-since-1991-1.786021
Last Updated: Mar 03, 2018

According to Milwaukee police, Vernon Seitz, 62, confessed last month to his psychiatrist that he had killed one boy in 1959 and knew of another child killing. Milwaukee police later raided Seitz's home and found him dead of natural causes.

Child uncovered

But officers made significant discoveries in his basement: piles of child and files on unsolved missing children cases in the United States from the late 1980s and 1990s.

Milwaukee police are refusing to discuss the case, saying the investigation is ongoing, but CBC News obtained results of their search warrants Tuesday.

Among the hundreds of items seized in Seitz's basement were scores of drawings of nude boys in bondage, books on cannibalism, blond human hair and a bone.

 

[Roselvr]

Although Boy in the Box was located in 1957, a perp claimed to have killed a boy in 1959, noting just in case the guy got his years mixed up.
FWIW.
Posted on this thread..
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?24919-Canada-Michael-Dunahee-4-Victoria-BC-24-March-1991&p=13967631#post13967631
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/new-link-in-cold-case-of-victoria-boy-missing-since-1991-1.786021
Last Updated: Mar 03, 2018

I want to note this is from 2009, it doesn't look like anything came of it. The guy was born about 1947. I found a different article where he claims it was Racine, he shot and killed 2 boys but LE can't find record of anything similar

During that time, he told her of an incident in 1959 in which he was abducted while at a zoo in Racine with his family. Seitz said he had been abducted, put into a vehicle and blindfolded before being sodomized and beaten.

He also told her that he shot and killed a 14-year-old boy because his abductors threatened to kill him if he did not carry out the shooting and that he saw his abductors shoot and kill another boy.

http://archive.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/37188529.html/

 

[dotr]

I want to note this is from 2009, it doesn't look like anything came of it. The guy was born about 1947. I found a different article where he claims it was Racine, he shot and killed 2 boys but LE can't find record of anything similar



http://archive.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/37188529.html/

Wondering which part of the 2009 was updated?
Sounds like the guy was just making up all that stuff, or was there any truth to it?
Still hoping that one day someone will step forward and identify Boy in the Box.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I pray he is Identified soon.This makes me very sad for him.I care very much for him and finding out who he is.Have there been any updates on him?Please do not forget about this little boy.He can be Identified.

http://api.missingkids.org/poster/NCMU/1231830

 

[Alleykins]

I don't have any real updates, but on the DNA DOE FB page, they did put him on the list as a potential case they may do, even though he was a child. He wasn't excluded from it, so that is a good sign. I think the age of the case may have something to do with it. I hope they make an exception!

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I hope and pray they make an exception for him too.They may be the only hope this little boy has.

I don't have any real updates, but on the DNA DOE FB page, they did put him on the list as a potential case they may do, even though he was a child. He wasn't excluded from it, so that is a good sign. I think the age of the case may have something to do with it. I hope they make an exception!

 

[Roselvr]

I don't have any real updates, but on the DNA DOE FB page, they did put him on the list as a potential case they may do, even though he was a child. He wasn't excluded from it, so that is a good sign. I think the age of the case may have something to do with it. I hope they make an exception!

For those that don't know, DNA Doe project will not take on cases of children because family could be involved. There may be a small amount of cases they will take on depending on each case

 

[Alleykins]

For those that don't know, DNA Doe project will not take on cases of children because family could be involved. There may be a small amount of cases they will take on depending on each case

Yes, they said that, but on their FB page, they didn't exclude him from their list, so I'm thinking he could be an exception.

 

[Triss]

Yes, they said that, but on their FB page, they didn't exclude him from their list, so I'm thinking he could be an exception.

I do hope he will be an exception. I feel like they're his last hope for identification. Recently I read an article about a girl who died in 1876 and was identified last year as Edith Howard Cook. If DNA could give a 19th-century child a name, then I remain hopeful that this unidentified boy and all other Does can have their names back as well. Never lose hope. :heart:

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Happy Easter sweet little boy.I pray in Jesus God is watching over you and you are in his arms now and we find out your real name soon.

 

[Ozoner]

For those that don't know, DNA Doe project will not take on cases of children because family could be involved. There may be a small amount of cases they will take on depending on each case

Why would the potential involvement of family prevent them from investigating a case? I don't follow the logic.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

For those that don't know, DNA Doe project will not take on cases of children because family could be involved. There may be a small amount of cases they will take on depending on each case

Ironically, until a child is identified there's no way of knowing if he or she died at the hands of their parent(s) or someone else such as a neighbour or a stranger. Catch 22?

 

[Alleykins]

Ironically, until a child is identified there's no way of knowing if he or she died at the hands of their parent(s) or someone else such as a neighbour or a stranger. Catch 22?

The way I understood it is that family DNA sites don't want their services used in criminal investigations, because of privacy reasons, and so that people won't shy away from using them. I could be wrong, but that's my take on it.
I think this case will be an exception because of it's age and chances of catching who killed him are slim. Most likely the person is now deceased.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I feel if more people ask the DNA DOE FB page to consider doing his DNA they might do it for him.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

The way I understood it is that family DNA sites don't want their services used in criminal investigations, because of privacy reasons, and so that

That doesn't quite compute though. If a parent killing a child is an issue for family DNA sites, so should a husband killing his wife be an issue since there are likely to be children who face finding out that daddy killed mummy. Is it any worse to have to face the possibility that mummy or daddy killed your brother or sister than the possibility that daddy killed mummy?

 

[Alleykins]

That doesn't quite compute though. If a parent killing a child is an issue for family DNA sites, so should a husband killing his wife be an issue since there are likely to be children who face finding out that daddy killed mummy. Is it any worse to have to face the possibility that mummy or daddy killed your brother or sister than the possibility that daddy killed mummy?

Well, DNA sites are private businesses and aren't obligated to help the police. They really don't have to give a reason.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Well, DNA sites are private businesses and aren't obligated to help the police. They really don't have to give a reason.

Indeed they don't, but that doesn't mean their reasoning necessarily makes much sense either.

 

[Alleykins]

Indeed they don't, but that doesn't mean their reasoning necessarily makes much sense either.

Here's a case where the police went after the wrong suspect based on DNA from a family DNA site. They probably don't want to get involved :

Leads provided by familial DNA have resulted in errors. A filmmaker in New Orleans was told that he was a suspect in a murder in Idaho based on a DNA sample given by his father years earlier as part of a church-sponsored genealogy project. Ancestry.com, which had purchased the database from a nonprofit that had collected the DNA, was required by a court order to identify the man to the police.The man was cleared after his DNA — which he gave under a court order — was tested.
Since then, Ancestry.com has made the database private and has not received any other requests from law enforcement officials for health or genetic information about an Ancestry member, a spokesman for the company said. The spokesman, Brandon Borrman, said the company would comply with such a request only if legally required.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/nyregion/familial-dna-searching-karina-vetrano.html

 

[Ms Suzanne]

This poor little boy needs to be Identified.This is very sad.