PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #11

[Trackergd]

I would also be a very expensive long trip for me as well.

I checked the Centre County website. Kimberly Barton is the register of Wills and has an email address.

row@centrecountypa.gov

I cannot email her from work.

I wonder if there is a form that can be filled out online and when a check is mailed, it could be processes and provided to the requester?

I bet when she gets that request, she's going to be passing it by a number of people for review.

 

[SeekingJana]

I understand that you are too far away, JJ.

I know we have posters in the area, though.

As far as wondering what things are ongoing on with regard to his case, I WISH we could get Karen Arnold to post with us...

We are never going to get anywhere without some connections made and some legwork done!!

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I did not see any on-line form. I did look.

 

[Trackergd]

I just inquired from my home email account how to apply for a copy of a probated will.

 

[Trackergd]

I got a response. 50 cents per page.

I would post the entire email, but they have a warning about re-posting.

They just need the decedents name.

What are the odds that I will get a visit from some State Troopers or thugs in three piece suits with no sense of humor?

So what say ye oh wise WS folks.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Virtually no chance of a visit.

I don't think there will be any surprises in his will. I also don't think there will be any dollar amount in his will. The only thing likely to show up is when RFG signed it.

 

[Trackergd]

So is it worth invoking the ire of whomever is trying to keep this under wraps, if in fact someone is?

If so and if this thing turns into a novel at fifty cents a page, I might need some of you to kick in a bit.

They will tell me in advance how many pages it is and I assume if there are any issues involved in getting a copy.

This should be public record, but we all know how LE loves to start giving the third degree to folks who ask questions...

 

[deca]

I would like to have answers about his finances as well- you just can't be sure how much anyone has squirreled away.

I have a number of relatives/acquaintances that make about what RG made. It only looks like they live frugally because they don't have any tangible material evidence of the money (high end cars, fancy homes etc). They spend their money on what I will call "disposables" Cleaning services, high end cable TV, dinners and lunches out, a nice vacation, expensive gifts to kids/exes, poor investments, hair/nail/massage appointments, personal trainers etc. You would be surprised how much $$ can be eaten up by things like that.

Someone upthread talked about what full professors make. It ranges from $60,000 to about $120,000 today*, with about 75,000 being about the average. back then, I am not sure. Also, some folks only get to full professors towards the end of their careers. Starting professors sometimes make only 30,000. Some professors start their careers with up to $100,000 in debt.

When I was going to UCLA some years ago, there was a rumor that a chemistry professor was earning about $300,000. I am not sure if that was true, but I would imagine there are a few crazy outliers. My info comes from all the professors I know and are in my family.

 

[Trackergd]

Well...since no one has issues with me being the one taking the hit for the team, I sent in my request to the recorder of wills naming Ray Gricar as the decedent.

I guess I will see tomorrow how many pages there are, or if I end up getting stuffed down a mine shaft by a bunch of bikers.....

:scared:

 

[Trackergd]

Thanks J.J. I knew you would stand behind me....15 miles behind me.... :floorlaugh:

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I do have a list of professor average salaries in 2002-3, though not the specific professor:

http://www.senate.psu.edu/agenda/apr27-04agn/salarytables042704.pdf

BG was a full professor in business administration in 2002-03, and started (at a lower level) in 1979. The average salary was then $141,000. She also may have had outside income.

 

[SeekingJana]

I really appreciate you doing this, and I know the other posters who follow this case are also appreciative.

IF costs get into the expensive range, then I think those of us who want to should help you with the costs of the documents.

The way I see it, we've talked for 8 years. Finally, we are getting something tangible. This is hugely valuable to me, because we do not know WHAT we are going to find out, truth be told.

I am going to be positive about this because doing anything pro-active is very positive.

Thanks again! !:rockon:

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I did check what is listed as "1997-98" and RFG's gross salary as DA was $105,678. So, basically since 1998, he was grossing more than $100 K per year.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

A blog acknowledging RFG's 68th birthday: http://www.centredaily.com/2013/10/09/3829241/more-anniversaries.html

No new information.

 

[SeekingJana]

:bdsong:

Whether you're celebrating on terra firma somewhere, or in heaven, where I believe every minute of infinity is a glorious celebration, many people are remembering you today. Some with tears, some with hope, and some with a mixture of both, dear man.
Happy 68th, wherever you are.

 

[Trackergd]

From the recorder of Wills for Centre County:

"We do have a file on Ray Gricar. However his file does not include a will. Mr. Gricar’s estate was settled by means of a petition for settlement of small estate. If you would like a copy of the entire file, the fee is $24.00".

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot........

I can handle $24.00 if you folks would like to see if we have a lead or a :worms:

 

[SuperSmith]

From the recorder of Wills for Centre County:

"We do have a file on Ray Gricar. However his file does not include a will. Mr. Gricar’s estate was settled by means of a petition for settlement of small estate. If you would like a copy of the entire file, the fee is $24.00".

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot........

I can handle $24.00 if you folks would like to see if we have a lead or a :worms:

Nothing to lose but $24

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Nothing to lose, but $24.00.

From what I can tell, the estate would be less than $25,000.

LG could have moved money into some type of sheltered asset (an annuity possibly). That would not be illegal and could be used to avoid inheritance tax (legally).

I don't think you will find anything of value in that.

 

[Trackergd]

Nothing to lose, but $24.00.

From what I can tell, the estate would be less than $25,000.

LG could have moved money into some type of sheltered asset (an annuity possibly). That would not be illegal and could be used to avoid inheritance tax (legally).

I don't think you will find anything of value in that.

OK. Sometime this week or early next week I will send off a request letter and check.

At fifty cents a page, that would be 48 pages.....for a small estate? I have seen Wills that were four pages or less.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

OK. Sometime this week or early next week I will send off a request letter and check.

At fifty cents a page, that would be 48 pages.....for a small estate? I have seen Wills that were four pages or less.

It could be the overall cost of the file, which might have just a few sheets of paper. It might include thinks like the declaration of death.

It might show inheritance tax, but I suspect that most assets were sheltered some years ago.