PA PA - Richard Petrone 35 & Danielle Imbo 34, Philadelphia, 19 Feb 2005 #2

[dmvpenn]

I believe and I think the Feds said they believe they followed Richie and Danielle to her out in NJ.

 

[wenchie]

I believe and I think the Feds said they believe they followed Richie and Danielle to her out in NJ.

Yet the truck was not seen crossing the bridge.

I've played this over so many times in my mind: perhaps they were run off the road and forced into another vehicle - but then, the entire area is pretty well populated.

How convenient for Danielle's killer (IMO) that Richard was with her. This gave them a few days time while people speculated that they may have taken off somewhere together. If it had been Danielle alone who just disappeared, the alarm bells would have gone off immediately and much louder.

If only LE would release the info on where they believe the car was crushed - perhaps someone saw or heard something in the middle of the night - or an employee may have seen/heard something strange.

 

[dmvpenn]

Yet the truck was not seen crossing the bridge.

I've played this over so many times in my mind: perhaps they were run off the road and forced into another vehicle - but then, the entire area is pretty well populated.

How convenient for Danielle's killer (IMO) that Richard was with her. This gave them a few days time while people speculated that they may have taken off somewhere together. If it had been Danielle alone who just disappeared, the alarm bells would have gone off immediately and much louder.

If only LE would release the info on where they believe the car was crushed - perhaps someone saw or heard something in the middle of the night - or an employee may have seen/heard something strange.

Well exactly! I believe the camera's going over the bridge are ... well worthless at times. Firstly, it is technolgy. Secondly, probably not well maintained technology. That is what I rationalize. Secondly, at the time of night it is mostly highway driving. IMO most people are just going about there business not even paying attention.

If they were run off the road... that could mean they were following her and had to be prepared or have had the resources to hide the truck.

As for convenient, man... think about it. The Mafia doesnt do 2for1's and generally they dont kill women. I beleive they could have learned he was going to be at her house and prepared for it. Or they were caught of guard by his being there and maybe they tried to take her and he fought back and well... wrong place wrong time. Either way, it seems the hired had the resourses to murder the additional human and plan to get rid of the truck.

And as you point out, given the weather and the snow storm and the speculation of their running off... time was on the hired's side.

Ya know, the numbess for me has subsided, the reconsiling of all the permutations is still maddening and horrifying. For Big Rich and Marge, the numbness is like the day it happened. Disbelief.

 

[wenchie]

I hadn't thought of that before - that someone was actually waited at or in her house. That makes sense, though: if he own vehicle was in the driveway, they knew she was out with someone else.

I guess it's taken for granted that one person couldn't have done this alone.

It's just a shame that someone who maybe wasn't in on the actual act but heard something won't speak out.

I hadn't known before that Danielle's friends were so defensive of her ex.

How could they have possibly known for sure that he hadn't anything to do with it? I'm sure I heard that he had been making some threatening or at least harrassing calls to Danielle.

 

[wenchie]

The Mafia doesnt do 2for1's and generally they dont kill women.

That may have been true in the past with the "Old Guard", but now I think they are basically just a bunch of psychopathic criminal killers with no compunction against doing anything at all.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

That may have been true in the past with the "Old Guard", but now I think they are basically just a bunch of psychopathic criminal killers with no compunction against doing anything at all.

ITA.

Here's a link, btw, with the info I mentioned in an earlier post:

6abc.com: FBI: Petrone and Imbo case may be murder-for-hire 2/06/08

"Because of the fact that for a kidnapping we haven't received a ransom request, no extortion, nothing to indicate that it was a kidnapping," said Williams...

Petrone's pick-up truck has also vanished, but the FBI said that this is by no means a cold case...

Both Imbo and Petrone were devoted parents to their respective children. Investigators have said that nothing about their lifestyles suggests they could become targets, but the FBI seems to think someone did want them dead and paid for it...

They did confirm that the investigation has taken them beyond Philadelphia and New Jersey, and into other states...

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Was couple's disappearance murder for hire? (phillyBurbs.com) | Burlington County Times

Williams would not say whether both were targets of a possible hit, noting that some aspects of the investigation must remain confidential. She said the investigation of the murder-for-hire scenario was in its preliminary stage and an arrest was not imminent...

Search of surveillance tapes at the Delaware River bridge crossings yielded no sign of the truck...

Johnson said there have always been persons of interest, but no particular suspect...

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Were missing couple victims of a hit? | Philadelphia Daily News | 02/07/2008

"We're not going to be able to go into great detail, but we thought it would be significant for the public to understand that this hasn't gone away. We're aggressively pursuing a scenario that's based on leads and tips we've received."

Law-enforcement sources said the FBI's announcement surprised investigators in the Philadelphia Police Department, which was not notified of any new developments in the case...

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

FBI: Couple last seen in Phila. in 2005 may be murdered | AP | 02/06/2008

And leads developed point to a murder-for-hire, she said.

"It's more than a process of elimination. Leads and tips have also taken us in that direction," Williams said, declining to be more specific...

"It didn't appear to be a random act of violence because it was such a clean disappearance," Williams said...

 

[wenchie]

I'm curious about some details - like: did Joe Imbo usually take his son to stay with friends (witnesses) when he had him on the weekend, or was it just this weekend?

Did Joe Imbo come to drop his son off at 3:30 the next day as usual.....did he appear shocked and alarmed that Danielle was missing.......did he say that he thought she'd taken off somewhere with Richard?

 

[dmvpenn]

I'm curious about some details - like: did Joe Imbo usually take his son to stay with friends (witnesses) when he had him on the weekend, or was it just this weekend?

Did Joe Imbo come to drop his son off at 3:30 the next day as usual.....did he appear shocked and alarmed that Danielle was missing.......did he say that he thought she'd taken off somewhere with Richard?

Wenchie- All great questions. Authorities have to know the answers. Hopefuuly, they pushed back on Danielle's friends. Ya know the ones that think Joe is the second coming of Jesus. Surely the authorities have considered your observation. Right? They must! That's what I hope they do.

There are all sorts of things I can't say to help clear that up for you. But let's just say his behaviors leading up to that night and the next day were ODD. Including his threatening to bust my cousins head with a baseball bat. If you have access to the first round of interviews, he was only around for a few, and it did not appear to be rushing to get in the public to make a plea. And just look at his face. He also never ever ever ever came out with a public plea to find his wife or his wife's abductors. Never headed a search or participated. My cousin's friends and Big rich were out for days and days and days. Not him.

His behavior thru this entire thing is odd. Now I had the guys cuts given how he threatened my cousin. He came on my web site onces and I used every vile and disgusted curse word to him and wished him a slow death for his treatment of my cousin, regardless if he was involved in this. I think he is a scum and if I should bump into him I will kick him in the nuts.

My opinion, as a theory, it was planned that he was getting his son well in advanced. It was known that it was a free weekend for Danielle. My theory is that if this act of vilolence was intended only for her and planned for that evening, "whoever" probably knew where she was, at some point learned later in the game found out there was another person with her. Maybe if it wasn't Richie, the person would have been spared. But "whoever" surely was able to pull of killing them both and hiding the truck and keeping it all a secret for a long time. In our hearts we knew they were dead, we all suspect they were murdered, considered the who what and where.... but... the law is exacting and leads and evidence have to be developed. Thank God we don't live in the old west!

I just wish that more of the possibilities and who they are looking at was done more publically like with Hallowy and other high profile cases. I like to think the more peopke hear, the more those involved understand that folks will want to come forward for 100k then to jeaprodize thier life and family's lives. Think about it, if you were involved with some kinda scum bag gang hoodlum types, and killing is like a right of passage, you may do it for less then 10k.Or you do it for money because of your disregard for human life. That could be a lot of money for dirtbags to start a new life. ( it is a lot to me too) Wouldn't you want to get 100k, get out of your gang? Or how about get some protection and start your life over. Expecially, if you were indirectly involved? Someone on the outskirt of this has to know something: A girlfriend or a wife of one of the perps? Take the money and run, start your life over? 100k. A father, who may have been part of the chopping of the car? Maybe they should be thinking, dang, I could take this money and start my life over... get away for this messy situation that I inadvertanly found myself in. 100k reward.

I have faith someone will come forward. Not because they want to do the right thing. That ship has sailed. But someone who realizes the truth is going to come out. Someone who needs the money to start their life over.

100k please come forward.

this is all my opinion and my constitutional right to express it.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

There are all sorts of things I can't say to help clear that up for you. But let's just say his behaviors leading up to that night and the next day were ODD. Including his threatening to bust my cousins head with a baseball bat.

I can't help but wonder if someone that was a "friend" of both Joe & Danielle didn't keep Joe up-to-date with Danielle's plans and actions. What are the chances of Joe being so broken up that Danielle didn't want to get back together and so angry at Rich for being with Danielle and then both Rich & Danielle coincidentally disappear when together and Joe has nothing to do with it?

If Joe had nothing to do with this then he has really bad luck because surely suspicion of the authorities is or has been on him due to these details.

 

[wenchie]

I sure wish someone like Nancy Grace would take an interest in this case.

Only people in the area who watch the local news (I don't) or read the local papers knows about it.

Even the Courier Post hasn't done much follow-through on it.

 

[dmvpenn]

Agreed. And furthermore, at the very least Joe had to be up-to-date with her plans as she was caring for his son. It was easy to monitor her movements, in my opinion. I am pissed that no one ever made public how scared of Joe she was. I sure wonder why that is being kept quiet.



What are the chances of Joe being so broken up that Danielle didn't want to get back together and so angry at Rich for being with Danielle and then both Rich & Danielle coincidentally disappear when together and Joe has nothing to do with it?

Let's change the lense of that questions: How much would a control freak who for some reason claimed to love Danielle but left her high and dry for a chick he met at a SuperBowl, who by the way lives in Atlanta.

The central issue to me is the root of abusive ie Control. Has nothing to do with love. Love, rather is the disquise. Joe was very angry at Rich for being with Danielle. But remember the facts, Danielle stop seeing them both prior to the dissappearance because Joe was causing so much stress on Danielle and Rich. The night she went missing was the first time they saw each other in awhile. So, there is a place in my theories to consider Danielle was going to get offed and Rich was in the wrong place. But I believe "whoever" learned that they were together and made arrangements to kill them both and found away to get rid of the truck. Who knows, maybe the truck got dumped in water.

The motive is trival to a you and me: control and greed. Recall,there was a wicked custody battle over the child. Costly endeavor to have children, child support rules are strict as all get out in NJ. Hard to start your life over with someone else when you are supporting a child. My opinion of course. Why isnt this made public?


If Joe had nothing to do with this then he has really bad luck because surely suspicion of the authorities is or has been on him due to these details.[/quote]


Agreed. And furthermore, at the very least Joe had to be up-to-date with her plans as she was caring for his son. It was easy to monitor her movements, in my opinion. I am pissed that no one ever made public how scared of Joe she was. I sure wonder why that is being kept quiet.



What are the chances of Joe being so broken up that Danielle didn't want to get back together and so angry at Rich for being with Danielle and then both Rich & Danielle coincidentally disappear when together and Joe has nothing to do with it?

Let's change the lens of that questions: How much would a control freak who for some reason claimed to love Danielle but left her high and dry for a chick he met at a Super Bowl, who by the way lives in Atlanta.

The central issue to me is the root of abusive i.e. Control. Has nothing to do with love. Love, rather is the disguise. Joe was very angry at Rich for being with Danielle. But remember the facts, Danielle stop seeing them both prior to the disappearance because Joe was causing so much stress on Danielle and Rich. The night she went missing was the first time they saw each other in awhile. So, there is a place in my theories to consider Danielle was going to get offend and Rich was in the wrong place. But I believe "whoever" learned that they were together and made arrangements to kill them both and found away to get rid of the truck. Who knows, maybe the truck got dumped in water.

The motive is trivial to a you and me: control and greed. Recall, there was a wicked custody battle over the child. Costly endeavor to have children, child support rules are strict as all get out in NJ. Hard to start your life over with someone else when you are supporting a child. My opinion of course. Why isnt this made public?


If Joe had nothing to do with this then he has really bad luck because surely suspicion of the authorities is or has been on him due to these details.

Bad luck...I feel like we have bad luck because someone is not coming forward. Maybe he is a person of interest, which they have not said Joe is. They said it early on but have not since. And, there is a difference between person of interest and suspect.

 

[dmvpenn]

I sure wish someone like Nancy Grace would take an interest in this case.

Only people in the area who watch the local news (I don't) or read the local papers knows about it.

Even the Courier Post hasn't done much follow-through on it.

We were on Nancy Grace. Go to http://richardpetrone.com/video/index.php Then click on nancy grace clip April 19th. So, she come out and said, " yeah well Scott Peterson wasn't a suspect either until they threw him down on the ground and arrested him" The next day she made an on air apology about that comment and that she did not mean to impy Joe was involved or a suspect.

What the Hell was that about? Why did that happen? Why and how could someone shut Nancy down. Not sure...

The only way to get the case back on her show is to do what we did in the begining... send tons of emails requesting it.

 

[Taximom]

I got excited when I saw this case being discussed on cable news today. I hope LE is on to someone and this case is solved. I suppose it's too late to hope these two are safe and alive, but you never know. I'll be praying for everyone involved in this case.

 

[wenchie]

We were on Nancy Grace. Go to http://richardpetrone.com/video/index.php Then click on nancy grace clip April 19th. So, she come out and said, " yeah well Scott Peterson wasn't a suspect either until they threw him down on the ground and arrested him" The next day she made an on air apology about that comment and that she did not mean to impy Joe was involved or a suspect.

What the Hell was that about? Why did that happen? Why and how could someone shut Nancy down. Not sure...

The only way to get the case back on her show is to do what we did in the begining... send tons of emails requesting it.

I'm sorry I missed that, and I'm sorry that Nancy apologized. Someone must have threatened her legally - because she has no problem implying that anyone else is a suspect - or worse.

 

[wenchie]

So, there is a place in my theories to consider Danielle was going to get offed and Rich was in the wrong place. But I believe "whoever" learned that they were together and made arrangements to kill them both and found away to get rid of the truck. Who knows, maybe the truck got dumped in water.

I think the plan may have been in place for some time, and Richard turned out to be the perfect "foil".

How many women who are having an acrimonious relationship with their ex disappear - and in how many of them are the ex the very first suspect? All of them.....because, well - that is how most of them turn out.


In this case, days, weeks - maybe even months went by while LE waited to see if the two of them had just gone off somewhere on a lark - or were hiding from her ex, or whatever.

I've noticed that on Danielle's site there still seems to be the premise that she is just "lost" and may be found. But people don't just get "lost".

I'm so sorry, DMV: my daughter is about the same age as Danielle & Richard, and I find this whole situation to be just maddening.

I live nearby. I know there's probably nothing I can do to help - but if there is, please let me know.

 

[dmvpenn]

wenchi,

You are kind to say as much. Thank you.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

MyFox Philadelphia | First On Fox: Feds Think Couple's Disappearance Was Hit

"The sophistication in which some of the evidence was removed makes this a murder for hire and well planned out scheme," said FBI Assistant Special Agent In Charge Jayne Challman...

Sources say investigators believe Petrone and Imbo were headed to Danielle Imbo's Mount Laurel condominium when they were abducted and killed by one of more suspects...

"Do we have a suspect in mind or anything like that," Challman was asked. "We are aggressively pursuing that."

Imbo's estranged husband has moved to North Carolina with the couple's young son...