PA PA - Richard Petrone 35 & Danielle Imbo 34, Philadelphia, 19 Feb 2005 #2

[petra]

I'm sure that they do. I HOPE that they do! That's why the idea of the word "remove" has me so intrigued.

me too.

Twice I had these long posts typed out with references/links and pooff..gone before I had a chance to post it! frustrating.

The reason I posted previously about the possibility of a security tape being "removed" is that it has been done over here by sophisticated criminals--called torpedoes--. Removing roadside security videos, painting the lens black or destroying camera lens. Smuggling, theft,hits ,etc.

I live thousands of miles away and have no idea of the area, but have followed the threads and am touched by Richie's family and their quest to find their son. Heartbreaking.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I am from the area and have lived here all of my 38 years. You would not find crowds on SOUTH Street at midnight on a February night, Saturday or not. ETA: I'll concede that it's possible but it's much more unlikely than likely.

Unless I'm misreading this somehow, it appears that it was 27 degrees at 11:30 P.M. along the Delaware River on the night of February 19, 2005. Not the ideal "stroll around South Street at midnight" type of weather.

Weather Station History : Weather Underground

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Yes... unless it's Black College Reunion (which happens in spring or summer I think- can't remember), or in the summertime. The only time I would go there during the winter would be for my b-day at TGI Fridays (LOL) or to the 24 hour diner.

Yeah, summertime is a completely different story. Although South Street is nothing like it was in its heyday, it still can get pretty crowded at times.

It's funny you go there for your b-day at TGIF. We always celebrate b-days there at Johnny Rocket's. They sing a silly b-day song; it's great to embarass a loved one!

 

[petra]

Good that posted, so perhaps I can write a bit more.

The word removed is interesting to me, dmv's post about the Feds leaning to thwards the fact that they crossed the bridge ( i have no idea if this bridge is where the security tape is).

Also news article prviously posted that stated ""scanned the video's for a sighting..."" strange choiceof words....will look up link now.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Oh, about the roads, I wanted to mention two more things.

1) The roads are lit but not brightly. So there's enough light to drive but certainly not enough to guarantee freedom from the threat of abduction. And it's not unheard of for perps to pull off brazen crimes in broad daylight so if someone's determined enough, all the light in the world wouldn't necessarily deter them.

2) The road is mostly lined by empty used car lots, closed stores, ramps to other roads, etc. It is not residential at all along the routes home from the city unless you take a wrong turn.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

The reason I posted previously about the possibility of a security tape being "removed" is that it has been done over here by sophisticated criminals--called torpedoes--. Removing roadside security videos, painting the lens black or destroying camera lens. Smuggling, theft,hits ,etc.

It amazes me how crafty criminals can be. And every time you think you've finally found a way to thwart them, they find even more intricate ways to do their deeds. I often say that many criminals (especially regarding identity theft, Mafia, computer hackers, etc.) are extremely smart and it's a shame that they don't use their talents for good things. The accomplishments that could be achieved with the intelligence that it takes to pull off some of the crimes you hear of!

If this was, indeed, a murder-for-hire, I suspect that the people paid to do it are high-level criminals that have a lot of resources and are capable of doing some of the things that you mentioned in your post. I don't put anything past them.

 

[kemo]

Wenchie, to answer your questions, No to all, I can not be sure he is not some sort of budding Mafiosa, what I did say was that "I find this most improbable". Do you have any information to the contrary?

Jerseygirl, the Crimelibrary reports "Anthony Valentino, one of the last people to see Danielle and Richard, points out there were hundreds of people on South Street the night they disappeared", The number of people on the streets was probably less than it would be in summer but the streets were hardly deserted. That is my point. Also, I thought "removed" refefered to the bodies and the truck.

 

[petra]

Oh, about the roads, I wanted to mention two more things.

1) The roads are lit but not brightly. So there's enough light to drive but certainly not enough to guarantee freedom from the threat of abduction. And it's not unheard of for perps to pull off brazen crimes in broad daylight so if someone's determined enough, all the light in the world wouldn't necessarily deter them.

2) The road is mostly lined by empty used car lots, closed stores, ramps to other roads, etc. It is not residential at all along the routes home from the city unless you take a wrong turn.

Yikes!! This sounds awful.
Do they have photoboxes on the road to snap pics of plate numbers of speders, etc.?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Do we know if Valentino was referring to the time that they arrived at the club or the time they were leaving?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I don't know if they have photoboxes or not. My guess would be no since I've never seen them or heard that they're in use but I suppose they could be.

 

[petra]

It amazes me how crafty criminals can be. And every time you think you've finally found a way to thwart them, they find even more intricate ways to do their deeds. I often say that many criminals (especially regarding identity theft, Mafia, computer hackers, etc.) are extremely smart and it's a shame that they don't use their talents for good things. The accomplishments that could be achieved with the intelligence that it takes to pull off some of the crimes you hear of!

If this was, indeed, a murder-for-hire, I suspect that the people paid to do it are high-level criminals that have a lot of resources and are capable of doing some of the things that you mentioned in your post. I don't put anything past them.

Isn't that true--problem is, imo, they are not financially rewarded to the same extent to do good deeds! Imagine these experts volunteering time for CODIS, misssing and abducted persons, human traficking, organ donor
matches and lists. It would be wonderful, but probably volunteer non paid

Can no longer pull up article that you posted above. It looks like it has timed out.

 

[petra]

I don't know if they have photoboxes or not. My guess would be no since I've never seen them or heard that they're in use but I suppose they could be.

Thanks.
Photoboxes, if working, can also be a good detriment to crime. Even if it is after the fact, sometimes

All you have to do if being harassed, is step on the gas. Your speeding is recorded as well as the car in pursuit.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Thanks.
Photoboxes, if working, can also be a good detriment to crime. Even if it is after the fact, sometimes

All you have to do if being harassed, is step on the gas. Your speeding is recorded as well as the car in pursuit.

I imagine they must be expensive. Perhaps they're putting them in the highest crime areas first and maybe someday will end up in other areas as well?

BTW, the article I posted was actually just the weather history for Philadelphia, PA at Wunderground.com. You can go there and type in the date if you're interested in seeing the data since the link isn't working.

 

[audrey77]

I don't know if they have photoboxes or not. My guess would be no since I've never seen them or heard that they're in use but I suppose they could be.

I think the only boxes that I know of are on the Roosevelt Expressway- Rt. 1 which is the other side of town, and pretty far away- and Northeast of the city. They were put there as a red light runner deterrent since so many pedestrians died, and many of the intersections were names as the most dangerous in the US.

They're only used for a certain stretch of the expressway (it has a lot of lights) and there are large signs warning you about them. I haven't seen them anywhere else.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I've definitely seen them on the news in regards to Roosevelt Blvd., up near Red Lion Road, correct? Are these the same cameras that they are placing on some buildings in Center City and in some of the notorious "drug areas" to keep an eye on suspicious activity?

 

[wenchie]

Wenchie, to answer your questions, No to all, I can not be sure he is not some sort of budding Mafiosa, what I did say was that "I find this most improbable". Do you have any information to the contrary?

My information to the contrary is that I know the South Jersey/Philadelphia area enough to know that a "middle class mortgage broker" having the kind of connections to have a job like that done is not "the most improbable" scenario of all.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I apologize for bringing up Rosario Digirolamo again but it helps so much to illustrate the fact that we can't judge a person's potential involvement in a crime (especially when emotions are involved) based on criminal history. I'm still looking to see what Digirolamo did for a living and just now, I came across this article that discusses the background of Digirolamo's buddy that allegedly helped Digirolamo get rid of the body:

"Russo faces evidence tampering charges. Prosecutors claim the former New York City Police Department auxiliary officer helped DiGirolamo get rid of the body..."

Who woulda' thought, huh?

Prosecutors: Mistress' Killer Couldn't Afford Double Life - Local News Story - WCAU | Philadelphia

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

PERFECT -

AMW.com | Rosario DiGirolamo - Fugitive

Police say DiGirolamo was a computer analyst who last showed up at work on June 11...

Prosecutor: Car Of Abandoned Boy's Father Found In N.Y. - Local News Story - WCAU | Philadelphia

He lived in an upscale Millstone, N.J., neighborhood...

NJ man sought in missing mom case fails to return from Italy (phillyBurbs.com) | New Jersey News

Authorities are investigating whether Digirolamo had ties with organized crime, Bocchini said.

A U.S. citizen who worked as a computer analyst, he didn't have a previous criminal record, according to prosecutors. But his Millstone Township home formerly belonged to Stefano "Steve the Truck Driver" Vitabile, the reputed consigliere of New Jersey's DeCavalcante crime family. Vitabile was sentenced last year to life in prison for his involvement in mob-related killings...

Prosecutors: Mistress' Killer Couldn't Afford Double Life - Local News Story - WCAU | Philadelphia

Prosecutors said Rosario DiGirolamo, 33, killed his girlfriend, carved up her body, and then abandoned their baby in a Newark, Del., hospital parking lot...

To me, the above case clearly shows that people can and do go off the deep end, even if there was nothing in their past to indicate that they might.

 

[anniem15]

JerseyGirl,

I think that is a good example. I followed that story as well and was very happy when I heard LE finally got him. In that case, somebody eventually talked. Let's hope we can get resolution here for Danielle and Rich too.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Yeah, he's a sick, sick man. I'll never understand how someone can do the nightmarish things they do to anyone, let alone to a person that they once "loved" and with whom they created a child. It's mind-boggling.