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[Ames]

PR alluding to middle eastern terrorists is just something you're reading into the RN that isn't really there.

I also never thought middle eastern terrorists were ever involved in a kidnapping or murder plot of JBR. I don't think the Rn comes from that part of the world, politically or educationally.

Nah, you are right..it doesn't come from the Middle East at all. It comes from right here, in our own backyard..of the good old United States. More specifically, Colorado. Even more specific....Boulder. And lets narrow it down even more...the Ramsey household. And as far as I know..they are not Middle Eastern terrorists.

 

[Ames]

Damn, Ames! Guess you don't need me after all.

LOL...YES we DO!!!

But, unlike most IDI's that I have came across....I do research.

Some IDI's are IDIots when it comes to researching anything to do with this case. They simply say..."an intruder did it"...but, have absolutely nothing to back it up. Most of them have not even read the autopsy report.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Nah, you are right..it doesn't come from the Middle East at all. It comes from right here, in our own backyard..of the good old United States. More specifically, Colorado. Even more specific....Boulder. And lets narrow it down even more...the Ramsey household. And as far as I know..they are not Middle Eastern terrorists.

Uh, no.

Go and get yourself a file copy of the RN scan, and zoom in on the letter 'f' in 'follow' on page 1. Make it as big as your screen. You'll see it has an excessively ornate style for English writer, but probably standard style for another culture.

RDI just can't explain away that phenomenon, the shaping of that letter 'f', by merely claiming its disguised. It certainly does not match PR's writing, thats for sure.

 

[JMO8778]

Patsy was known to have changed her writing afterwards,even typing up things BR needed for school.
Can you explain that q,and the fact (I think it was 24 out of 26) exemplars MATCH Patsy's handwriting?
And btw..there are PLENTY of crimes where a note is used as an attempt by the perp to throw off LE..this one is no different.It's not even a real KN or RN,for starters.

 

[JMO8778]

Some IDI's are IDIots when it comes to researching anything to do with this case. They simply say..."an intruder did it"...but, have absolutely nothing to back it up. Most of them have not even read the autopsy report.

..you can say THAT again !

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

And, I just noted the RN author has a trait, a characteristic, of writing the small case letter 'i' shorter in height than other letters in the containing word, most of the time.

I then checked PR's exemplars and found that not to be the case at all.

The only way anyone is going to buy into PR as RN author is through the tabloid junk.

 

[weasel]

<<Some IDI's are IDIots when it comes to researching anything to do with this case>>

I don't think that's very fair. I read on this board where RDI were asking for IDI's to post so they could debate the case and now IDI's are being called idiots. I personally don't think the Ramsey's committed the crime. And I have done a bit of research which leads me to believe this. I also think it's shameful the things people say about Patsy Ramsey even after her death. If I am wrong and she was involved in the crime, she's more than likely paying for it now.

 

[Ames]

Uh, no.

Go and get yourself a file copy of the RN scan, and zoom in on the letter 'f' in 'follow' on page 1. Make it as big as your screen. You'll see it has an excessively ornate style for English writer, but probably standard style for another culture.

RDI just can't explain away that phenomenon, the shaping of that letter 'f', by merely claiming its disguised. It certainly does not match PR's writing, thats for sure.

Okay, now YOU go and zoom in on the letter q....Patsy's q's look like this...8...and so does the RN author's. Now what are the chances of THAT??

 

[Ames]

Patsy was known to have changed her writing afterwards,even typing up things BR needed for school.
Can you explain that q,and the fact (I think it was 24 out of 26) exemplars MATCH Patsy's handwriting?
And btw..there are PLENTY of crimes where a note is used as an attempt by the perp to throw off LE..this one is no different.It's not even a real KN or RN,for starters.

There is no way that Holdon, or anybody else. can explain away that letter q....what are the odds that Patsy and the author of the RN would make their q's the exact same way?

 

[Ames]

<<Some IDI's are IDIots when it comes to researching anything to do with this case>>

I don't think that's very fair. I read on this board where RDI were asking for IDI's to post so they could debate the case and now IDI's are being called idiots. I personally don't think the Ramsey's committed the crime. And I have done a bit of research which leads me to believe this. I also think it's shameful the things people say about Patsy Ramsey even after her death. If I am wrong and she was involved in the crime, she's more than likely paying for it now.

You misunderstood me...I said that they are idiots when it comes to researching this case....SOME not ALL. Sorry if I offended you...it was not my intention.

 

[JMO8778]

There is no way that Holdon, or anybody else. can explain away that letter q....what are the odds that Patsy and the author of the RN would make their q's the exact same way?

no tabloid fodder here...a little reading for Holdon...


http://www.acandyrose.com/11141997cinawonganalysis.htm

http://gemart.8m.com/ramsey/note/index.html

http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6404&page=1&pp=12

http://hellpainter.tripod.com/jbr/WongAna.htm

http://www.acandyrose.com/12251996ransomnote.htm

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

<<Some IDI's are IDIots when it comes to researching anything to do with this case>>

I don't think that's very fair. I read on this board where RDI were asking for IDI's to post so they could debate the case and now IDI's are being called idiots. I personally don't think the Ramsey's committed the crime. And I have done a bit of research which leads me to believe this. I also think it's shameful the things people say about Patsy Ramsey even after her death. If I am wrong and she was involved in the crime, she's more than likely paying for it now.

What is your bit of research that leads you to believe that the R's didn't commit the crime?

 

[Ames]

no tabloid fodder here...a little reading for Holdon...


http://www.acandyrose.com/11141997cinawonganalysis.htm

http://gemart.8m.com/ramsey/note/index.html

http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6404&page=1&pp=12

http://hellpainter.tripod.com/jbr/WongAna.htm

http://www.acandyrose.com/12251996ransomnote.htm

Thanks for posting these...I had never seen the first two links before.

Holdon will still say that you got that info from the "Globe" or something...wait and see.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

There is no way that Holdon, or anybody else. can explain away that letter q....what are the odds that Patsy and the author of the RN would make their q's the exact same way?

The odds that PR and the author of the RN would make their q's in a similar way is not known. Thats just one letter. There's 26 letters in the alphabet. As a layman, it seems to me that some of the 26 letters of two different writers are going to match while others don't. To get a match, ALL letters have to match, not 3 or 4 or 12.

The odds that PR and the author of the RN would make ALL their letters in the same way is very remote, unless they are the same person. However (caution, facts ahead) PR and the RN author DO NOT make ALL their letters the same way. PR's writing is far neater and more legible than the RN author. More letters look different than look the same.

Oh, but I forgot PR used her left hand and deliberately disguised her writing, which accounts for the differences.

Too bad thats just a RDI claim. PR would HAVE to have written the RN left-handed to account for all the differences.

But in the real world, were stuck with facts that we know: There are big differences in the appearance of PR's handwriting and the RN author's handwriting.

Did anybody notice that the RN author can spell 'advise' while PR can't?

 

[DeeDee249]

The odds that PR and the author of the RN would make their q's in a similar way is not known. Thats just one letter. There's 26 letters in the alphabet. As a layman, it seems to me that some of the 26 letters of two different writers are going to match while others don't. To get a match, ALL letters have to match, not 3 or 4 or 12.

The odds that PR and the author of the RN would make ALL their letters in the same way is very remote, unless they are the same person. However (caution, facts ahead) PR and the RN author DO NOT make ALL their letters the same way. PR's writing is far neater and more legible than the RN author. More letters look different than look the same.

Oh, but I forgot PR used her left hand and deliberately disguised her writing, which accounts for the differences.

Too bad thats just a RDI claim. PR would HAVE to have written the RN left-handed to account for all the differences.

But in the real world, were stuck with facts that we know: There are big differences in the appearance of PR's handwriting and the RN author's handwriting.

Did anybody notice that the RN author can spell 'advise' while PR can't?

Are you saying that someone can't deliberately misspell a word? That's crazy "Bussiness".

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Are you saying that someone can't deliberately misspell a word? That's crazy "Bussiness".

Are you saying that PR deliberately misspelled 'advise' while being questioned on the murder?

 

[Ames]

The odds that PR and the author of the RN would make their q's in a similar way is not known. Thats just one letter. There's 26 letters in the alphabet. As a layman, it seems to me that some of the 26 letters of two different writers are going to match while others don't. To get a match, ALL letters have to match, not 3 or 4 or 12.

The odds that PR and the author of the RN would make ALL their letters in the same way is very remote, unless they are the same person. However (caution, facts ahead) PR and the RN author DO NOT make ALL their letters the same way. PR's writing is far neater and more legible than the RN author. More letters look different than look the same.

Oh, but I forgot PR used her left hand and deliberately disguised her writing, which accounts for the differences.

Too bad thats just a RDI claim. PR would HAVE to have written the RN left-handed to account for all the differences.

But in the real world, were stuck with facts that we know: There are big differences in the appearance of PR's handwriting and the RN author's handwriting.

Did anybody notice that the RN author can spell 'advise' while PR can't?

Holdon, you obviously didn't read any of the links that JMO posted...in post # 791. She spent alot of time posting them...why don't you read them? The q is NOT the only letter that matches. There's the...R, i, B, th, D, M, a, g...just to name a FEW.

 

[Ames]

Are you saying that PR deliberately misspelled 'advise' while being questioned on the murder?

Yep, the same way that she went from writing her a's.....with the little hoodie at the top...to just plain ole lower case A...with a circle and a line down the right side (I can't make one of those on the keyboard).

 

[Ames]

Oh but I did. Thats how I found out that PR didn't know how to spell 'advise'.

Patsy was smart...certainly she knew how to spell a simple word such as advise. Haven't you ever misspelled a word before, accidently?? My guess is that she misspelled it on purpose...but, even if she didn't....she wouldn't be the FIRST person to misspell a word accidently.

Oh, and is THAT the only thing that you have to say about those links that JMO posted?? What about all of those letters that matched?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Patsy was smart...certainly she knew how to spell a simple word such as advise. Haven't you ever misspelled a word before, accidently?? My guess is that she misspelled it on purpose...but, even if she didn't....she wouldn't be the FIRST person to misspell a word accidently.

Oh, and is THAT the only thing that you have to say about those links that JMO posted?? What about all of those letters that matched?

Sorry, It turns out that JMO's links were not where I found out that PR didn't know how to spell 'advise'. It was at acandyrose, but not on those links.

She misspelled it twice that I can see, so it wasn't a one-time accident or anything. Naturally, RDI would be opposed to any new discovery that would show PR didn't have the ability to write the RN-- as she was unable to spell 'advise', a trait she demonstrated for investigators after the murder.

But, if you NOW need to CLAIM that PR deliberately misspelled 'advise' because it would otherwise shatter your RDI view, then go ahead.