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[Holdontoyourhat]

I disagree. Investigators would look at it and say..."Why would Patsy use the word southern, because SHE is from the south. She couldn't have written that note, why would she want to point the finger at herself?" The same reason that she misspelled a word, but correctly spelled attaché (the misspelled word was done on purpose).

Even if the intruders had of "looked around the house for a couple of hours and figured they both were from the south"...(LOL...that's funny!), why would they have used the word Southern if they weren't sure that was where John was from? They sounded quite sure of themselves, when they wrote.."use that good southern common sense of yours". I have seen pictures of all of the rooms in the Ramsey home..and there was not one thing that I can think of that screams..."southerners".

Anyone writing a RN that doesn't sign their name to it, usually doesn't want to be identified. If they are idenfied by something they wrote, then their plan 'backfired'.

If you want your murderous plan to backfire, start by leaving a handwritten note that you wrote at the crime scene. Then make it unnecessarily long. Then add little tidbits in the note that direct investigators to your group. Thats what PR did, according to you.

This is way too self-defeating to be believable, and falls in the same category as calling 911 hours before the RN said to and reporting a kidnapping that's sure to invite the FBI plus local LE.

PR didn't write the note. And there are more than one ABFDE CDE's agreeing with that.

 

[DeeDee249]

I have a migraine.....:banghead:

 

[Ames]

Wow, I'm not sure where you're coming from with this.

The RN is very specific on what JR was supposed to be doing that morning. You can probably recite everything JR was expected to do according to the RN. The RN was very thorough on the sequence of events, and was very clear on practically every point.

The author makes implicit and explicit references to both status and nationality, and closes the RN with a political salutation 'Victory!'

Your idea that the note is nonsense is the same as the crime scene staged, and the handwriting disguised. It provides RDI an excuse to not find any reason or rhyme. According to you, instead of extracting a pattern and a personality from the evidence, we should take all the evidence, toss it in a blender, turn it on, and claim RDI.

I have to say...that as far as I know...YOU are the ONLY person/poster that believes that the kidnappers/killers were actually members of a small foreign faction. :crazy: Even the Ramsey's didn't believe that...and Patsy is the one that wrote the note!! So, you are even going against the Ram's theory...now THAT is pretty bold.

 

[Ames]

I have a migraine.....:banghead:

Join the club!!

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

There's no RDI motive that wasn't invented after the fact. There's no plausible RDI scenario. There's no smoking gun. There's no PR handwriting consensus. We don't know where the cord and tape came from.

If RDI is wrong, then there's obviously less reason to doubt the RN. The experts tell us RDI is wrong.

Go figure.

 

[Ames]

Anyone writing a RN that doesn't sign their name to it, usually doesn't want to be identified. If they are idenfied by something they wrote, then their plan 'backfired'.

If you want your murderous plan to backfire, start by leaving a handwritten note that you wrote at the crime scene. Then make it unnecessarily long. Then add little tidbits in the note that direct investigators to your group. Thats what PR did, according to you.

This is way too self-defeating to be believable, and falls in the same category as calling 911 hours before the RN said to and reporting a kidnapping that's sure to invite the FBI plus local LE.

PR didn't write the note. And there are more than one ABFDE CDE's agreeing with that.

:boohoo:

I am interested to find out why you think that intruders would write a handwritten ransom note at the crime scene in the first place? Do you think that it was written before or after her death? If before...then how would the intruders know exactly how long the Rams would be away? They didn't know where they were or how long they would be gone. John could have been out getting gas for all they knew, and would be back shortly...for example. And if the RN was written AFTER, then how did they know that the Rams wouldn't wake up to go to the bathroom, to get a glass of water, to check on the kids? You posted that you believe that the intruder(s) took JB to the basement to feed her pineapple, because they didn't want to chance sitting around the dining room table...and having one of the Ramsey wake up for whatever reason. So why would they take that same chance and sit around writing a a ridiculously long RN? Which brings me to my next question...WHY the ridiculously long RN?

 

[JMO8778]

The RN is very specific on what JR was supposed to be doing that morning. You can probably recite everything JR was expected to do according to the RN. The RN was very thorough on the sequence of events, and was very clear on practically every point.

well,I believe 'tomorrow' meant the 27th,and I think that was a ruse to get LE off their backs for at least 24 hrs.I think JR was pretty dumbfounded and irritated,to say the least,when they didn't realize it,and set up the phone traps and hung around.all day.

The author makes implicit and explicit references to both status and nationality, and closes the RN with a political salutation 'Victory!'

no,I think Patsy was praying to God she wouldn't go to prison,or worse,for this crime..SO,she signed the note Victory! as in,'Victory from God,I will beat this!' And the next part,SBTC...meant 'saved by the cross',as I think Patsy had asked for forgiveness and so believed signing it that way was her outward, yet subconcious, way of confessing,without actually coming right out and saying it.

It provides RDI an excuse to not find any reason or rhyme. According to you, instead of extracting a pattern and a personality from the evidence, we should take all the evidence, toss it in a blender, turn it on, and claim RDI.

no,but we can specifically say that about IDI theories,that want us to *ignore fiber evidence,because,according to THEM...everything is everywhere,and so Patsy's fibers being in specific places doesn't count.Says who?? Oh yeah..IDI.They're the only ones.Toss out scientific evidence because they say so. Well,I'd have to have **** for brains to believe that.As well as ignoring chronic infiltrate into the cells,which means *chronic abuse was happening-which rules out intruders.

 

[DeeDee249]

There are enough "smoking guns" in this case to arm a squadron of SFF.

The dead child hidden in the basement of her own home- when this is the case, the killers are nearly always the parents.
Pineapple in the digestive tract that is linked to pineapple from the family fridge, found in a bowl sourced to the home with a spoon sourced to the home, each having family fingerprints.
Denial by the parents about when she went to bed and about feeding her the pineapple, when there is no reason for innocent parents to deny it.
Materials used for the ransom note were sourced to the home, and replaced in their usual places.
Mother cannot be ruled out as RN author.
Materials for the garotte found in the paint tote belonging to a parent.
Fibers from both parents found in the crime scene and on the body in places that tie them to the BODY, not just to the child.
The "disappearance" of an entire month of cellphone records - the month of the murder.
Repeated calls from the governor's office to JR. the WEEK after the murder.
NO evidence of a intruder whatsoever- in the crime scene.

I am sure there is more...

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

If there was a smoking gun, there would've been an arrest. No arrest, no smoking gun.

 

[Ames]

If there was a smoking gun, there would've been an arrest. No arrest, no smoking gun.

You are forgetting that the Ramsey's are STILL under an umbrella of suspicion..which translates to...REMAIN A SUSPECT...there STILL could be an arrest. Just because there hasn't been one yet...doesn't mean that it won't happen.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

You are forgetting that the Ramsey's are STILL under an umbrella of suspicion..which translates to...REMAIN A SUSPECT...there STILL could be an arrest. Just because there hasn't been one yet...doesn't mean that it won't happen.

You can't make smoking guns up. There are no smoking guns, and if there were, they'd have been arrested.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

:boohoo:

I am interested to find out why you think that intruders would write a handwritten ransom note at the crime scene in the first place? Do you think that it was written before or after her death? If before...then how would the intruders know exactly how long the Rams would be away? They didn't know where they were or how long they would be gone. John could have been out getting gas for all they knew, and would be back shortly...for example. And if the RN was written AFTER, then how did they know that the Rams wouldn't wake up to go to the bathroom, to get a glass of water, to check on the kids? You posted that you believe that the intruder(s) took JB to the basement to feed her pineapple, because they didn't want to chance sitting around the dining room table...and having one of the Ramsey wake up for whatever reason. So why would they take that same chance and sit around writing a a ridiculously long RN? Which brings me to my next question...WHY the ridiculously long RN?

Thatsa lotta questions. Why don't I ask you just one question: You're about to take a 6 year old from her house against her will for a long drive out of town on a winters night. What do you need?

 

[JMO8778]

You can't make smoking guns up. There are no smoking guns, and if there were, they'd have been arrested.

..and some ppl still believe that UFO's are aliens from other planets...

 

[daffodil]

Thatsa lotta questions. Why don't I ask you just one question: You're about to take a 6 year old from her house against her will for a long drive out of town on a winters night. What do you need?

A coat?? :crazy:

 

[icedtea4me]

Thatsa lotta questions. Why don't I ask you just one question: You're about to take a 6 year old from her house against her will for a long drive out of town on a winters night. What do you need?

The mental capacity and physical ability to open a ground-level door and walk out of it carrying the child to the car.


-Tea

 

[Solace]

Thatsa lotta questions. Why don't I ask you just one question: You're about to take a 6 year old from her house against her will for a long drive out of town on a winters night. What do you need?

Well, they definitely should not take you along, because they would get caught IMMEDIATELY.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

It's not that hard to whisper a threat into the ear of a child and get them to do whatever you say without putting up a struggle.

Just tell her that someone is holding her little dog somewhere, and will cut its head off if she makes any sound whatsoever, or does anything other than get in the car at the curb immediately.

That may not work in an RN on a successful CEO and his former beauty pageant contestant/journalism major wife, but I guarantee you a six year old girl will follow orders like that.

 

[Ames]

Thatsa lotta questions. Why don't I ask you just one question: You're about to take a 6 year old from her house against her will for a long drive out of town on a winters night. What do you need?

Yeah, I know that it was alotta questions...but, would you please take the time to answer them for me...I asked YOU first.

Let's see...if I were about to take a 6 year old from her house against her will..for a long drive out of town, on a winter's night...what would I need? Hmmmm...well, first of all...I would want to get her out of the house as quickly and as quietly as possible, so I wouldn't be serving her pineapple in the basement, or at the dining room table, and I sure wouldn't sit and take the time to write a three page ransom note. If I were a kidnapper...and a killer...I would not CARE if she was hungry, or cold...I would just want to get her out of the house as quickly as possible. So, if I were the kidnapper...all I would need is the victim.

 

[Ames]

The mental capacity and physical ability to open a ground-level door and walk out of it carrying the child to the car.


-Tea

EXACTLY!!!

 

[Ames]

Well, they definitely should not take you along, because they would get caught IMMEDIATELY.

LOL :clap: