Patrick B. Visit (REVISITED)

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What does this person in Louisiana have to do with anything in this case and why are we dragging him through the mud now?! Maybe a mod could go back and delete his links so we don't continue allowing another innocent person to get thrown into this case. We should be more responsible, imo.
 
Yeah but . . .

I, personally, can't get past this bizarre jailhouse visit. KC was very ignorant to her own family and friend over the phone in the beginning, using profanities left and right. Someone said that she would have to "okay" her visitors. PB was scheduled to come with FB, but FB didn't show. There is an FB in the Orlando area who owns a charter boat company for which he has a website: www.alwaysfishing.com. Stay with me here. So KC okays a visit from someone she supposedly does not know or remember but let's just say that maybe she thinks that he knows where Caylee is and decides to play along. She's like well I can't see you and I don't remember you . . . oh MW, now you have jogged my memory, and he says to hold my head up high (I'll have to keep that in memory to use while I'm walking out of jail) and oh you want to be on my team, well that means an absolute lot and i'm okay for the minute but thank you for your support. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? If I was in jail for what she was in jail for, and was as nasty as she could be, and some geek from high school came to bother me at the jail to say he'll support me, I don't think I'd be quite so sugary sweet to him. There is a reason she allowed the visit. There is a reason for everything that he said. It was a message, LOUD AND CLEAR. The message was: Keep your mouth shut. We are out here.

And for the record:



Look at this guy's display name. It made my hinky meter rise after reading Waltzing Matilda's dream about a child drowning in a bathtub, when being watched by someone while KC and her boyfriend were out.

Of course, it could be a total (but very weird) coincidence or maybe this guy is aware that his name is out there and he put throw everyone off. It's still weird. Does anyone know where the video is of PB? I'd like to compare pics. Thanks!

I'm not good with links, but if you see post #80 in this thread THAT is the PB that went to see Casey. The pic is clear enough that you can tell that it is the same person in the jailhouse video. IMHO, nothing whatsoever hinky, just an awkward little guy offering support. (obviously with a much bigger heart than myself!)
 
I dont mean to offend anyone, but hasnt this guy been run down several times two months ago? He's not even a material witness; this myspace is not even his- just trying to keep it fair for peeps with an unfortunate name match in this case.
 
What does this person in Louisiana have to do with anything in this case and why are we dragging him through the mud now?! Maybe a mod could go back and delete his links so we don't continue allowing another innocent person to get thrown into this case. We should be more responsible, imo.

I agree. It's getting almost embarrassing. I just hope I was never in line behind her somewhere!
 
So KC okays a visit from someone she supposedly does not know or remember but let's just say that maybe she thinks that he knows where Caylee is and decides to play along. She's like well I can't see you and I don't remember you . . . oh MW, now you have jogged my memory, and he says to hold my head up high (I'll have to keep that in memory to use while I'm walking out of jail) and oh you want to be on my team, well that means an absolute lot and i'm okay for the minute but thank you for your support. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? If I was in jail for what she was in jail for, and was as nasty as she could be, and some geek from high school came to bother me at the jail to say he'll support me, I don't think I'd be quite so sugary sweet to him. There is a reason she allowed the visit. There is a reason for everything that he said. It was a message, LOUD AND CLEAR. The message was: Keep your mouth shut. We are out here.

I debated "beating this dead horse" one more time (surely it should be glue by now) :) , but couldn't resist, sorry.

Remember in the 7/16 call from jail when KC spoke with Cindy, Lee and Kristina, while trying to get Tony's number KC mentions to Kristina "I will call you tomorrow. I want to talk to him really quick. I wanted to actually try and call Mike. I haven't slept in four days. I have not slept in four days".

I too think that PB's visit was all about MW wanting to give KC a message. Maybe MW didn't want to be personally connected by a record of a jail visit to KC (ya think). So he sent PB to deliver it for him?

"Now I know who this kid is"
 
I debated "beating this dead horse" one more time (surely it should be glue by now) :) , but couldn't resist, sorry.

Remember in the 7/16 call from jail when KC spoke with Cindy, Lee and Kristina, while trying to get Tony's number KC mentions to Kristina "I will call you tomorrow. I want to talk to him really quick. I wanted to actually try and call Mike. I haven't slept in four days. I have not slept in four days".

I too think that PB's visit was all about MW wanting to give KC a message. Maybe MW didn't want to be personally connected by a record of a jail visit to KC (ya think). So he sent PB to deliver it for him?

"Now I know who this kid is"

Not trying to be difficult Unsolved :) but I just went back and listened to that 7/16 phone call again from beginning to end and NOWHERE does Casey say anything about trying to call Mike B. I also tried to restrain myself from commenting again concerning PB, but this has gotten SO FAR over the top, people are posting several wrong MySpace pages and quotes that don't exist that I felt I had to post again in defense of this little guy. To be honest, I think this thread should be locked (but that is certainly not for me to decide) since to my knowledge LE has made no reference to this guy at all. I just have an extremely difficult time reading this stuff that is simply not true. Please go back and listen to that phone call again. No hard feelings I hope? :blowkiss:
 
We are all in this together! We have to look at all sides. That's true. I know about the facts but I also know that the airport records could be wrong (people log in the information) and the dna results could be wrong (but probably not) and that the smell in KC's car did not come from the pizza but definitely a dead body. I am just hoping that it wasn't Caylee's dead body. I look at the video of her reading her book and singing her song at the nursing home and to think that her life could have been taken from her just hours or days after that video is just a horrible thought. I know that kids die at the hands of their parents. I'm just not so sure this one did. I've also listened to the backward speech videos and they make me think that KC didn't do anything to Caylee, but of course, that is not concrete evidence.

Have a good night. I must hit the bed early tonight as I have to go in to work early tomorrow!


I totally understand.

I have those same feelings when I watch the nursing home videos...it's absolutely heart wrenching:(

Sleep well!
 
What does this person in Louisiana have to do with anything in this case and why are we dragging him through the mud now?! Maybe a mod could go back and delete his links so we don't continue allowing another innocent person to get thrown into this case. We should be more responsible, imo.
His name is PB.
 
I debated "beating this dead horse" one more time (surely it should be glue by now) :) , but couldn't resist, sorry.

Remember in the 7/16 call from jail when KC spoke with Cindy, Lee and Kristina, while trying to get Tony's number KC mentions to Kristina "I will call you tomorrow. I want to talk to him really quick. I wanted to actually try and call Mike. I haven't slept in four days. I have not slept in four days".

I too think that PB's visit was all about MW wanting to give KC a message. Maybe MW didn't want to be personally connected by a record of a jail visit to KC (ya think). So he sent PB to deliver it for him?

"Now I know who this kid is"
She said she wanted to actually close her eyes (as in getting some sleep).
 
I'm not good with links, but if you see post #80 in this thread THAT is the PB that went to see Casey. The pic is clear enough that you can tell that it is the same person in the jailhouse video. IMHO, nothing whatsoever hinky, just an awkward little guy offering support. (obviously with a much bigger heart than myself!)
Okay so do you have a link to the jailhouse video with PB in it? I would love to see it.

I apologize to the guy who drowned in the bathtub in Louisiana who has the same name as PB but I am only trying to find answers to this very complicated but intriguing case where the main character does not talk. That leaves us to our own resources. There is a 2 year old (hopefully 3 year old now) missing and Ms. Caylee is somewhere, whether she is dead or alive, and I am looking for any clues that I can get to find her. Her mother and grandparents and uncle are not doing that and doesn't that just pee you off? It does me, unless there really is a protection issue, which I am hoping is the case because that would mean that Caylee is possibly alive.
 
At this point and time there is not one person with the name Patrick B involved in the investigative part of Casey's case. His existence is moot to the dynamics of the case because he shows up nowhere in the witness list... he was just a random visitor, IMO... and this is definitely nothing more than beating a dead horse over and over. I only spoke up after a blogger slandered the kid and called him a murderer and it was reported on the boards, bringing this thread back to the top. I laid out the info to show that the Patrick B that visited Casey is pretty much not the PB wanted for murder in Louisiana... hoping it would put an end to the discussion about this young man. Maybe it's time to close the thread, because it seems to be drifting off in directions that are of no connection to Casey, Caylee and the case.
(Just my opinion... sorry if it steps on anyones toes)
 
At this point and time there is not one person with the name Patrick B involved in the investigative part of Casey's case. His existence is moot to the dynamics of the case because he shows up nowhere in the witness list... he was just a random visitor, IMO... and this is definitely nothing more than beating a dead horse over and over. I only spoke up after a blogger slandered the kid and called him a murderer and it was reported on the boards, bringing this thread back to the top. I laid out the info to show that the Patrick B that visited Casey is pretty much not the PB wanted for murder in Louisiana... hoping it would put an end to the discussion about this young man. Maybe it's time to close the thread, because it seems to be drifting off in directions that are of no connection to Casey, Caylee and the case.
(Just my opinion... sorry if it steps on anyones toes)

I whole hartedly agree and I am being seriously dishartened by this forum with so many WS'rs incriminating people, it's one thing to ask questions and have theories it is another to post those questions and theories as fact. And it is totally different to mix up people and start to think they are someone else and post about them as if they actually are that someone else such as with the situation you are mentioning. It has gotten out of hand. There is so much on this on this forum I am not sure how one would go about cleaning it all up.

Maybe we need a forum wipe. Move all topics off the board to the locked board and everyone start fresh on new threads and state some fresh boundaries?
 
I had to revisit this topic tonight. After listening to the Audio between KC and PB in the Jail. I think PB was sent there as a message to KC. Dont tell, we are still watching you. But why...
 
PB sends off no suspicious signals to me. He knew KC from high school and just went to the jail to offer his support and possibly bring some attention to himself, which he did. I though it was a very uncomfortable visit at most, with KC not even remembering him initially.
 
He did send off suspicious to me. If would been different if he was in contact with her n day by day. This guy didn't even hang out with her much in high school. It was just weird that he is the first visitor. Most likely he not player in this mess. But he did raise a eyebrow. JMO
 
His visit was always suspicious to me. A few nights ago, on NG, they flashed names of people who were contributers to KC's commisary fund. There was a Michael somebody and I immediately felt it was the 'Mike' that PB had mentioned. Just a feeling I got - don't recall the last name on-screen.

does anyone know....:

1) What is required information that you must provide in order to contribute to the fund? (like do they take you name, copy of ID, etc or do they just take the money and deposit it in the account?)

2) Where can I find a list of commisary contributors?

3) Have the commisary contributors ever been cross referenced to known players in the case?
 
His visit was always suspicious to me. A few nights ago, on NG, they flashed names of people who were contributers to KC's commisary fund. There was a Michael somebody and I immediately felt it was the 'Mike' that PB had mentioned. Just a feeling I got - don't recall the last name on-screen.

does anyone know....:

1) What is required information that you must provide in order to contribute to the fund? (like do they take you name, copy of ID, etc or do they just take the money and deposit it in the account?)

2) Where can I find a list of commisary contributors?

3) Have the commisary contributors ever been cross referenced to known players in the case?
Michael K. wasn't it? That's the name I remembered from the commissary. Is that the name PB said?
 
Just listened to that jailhouse visit and the "Mike names" are not the same. The reason I remembered the name was "Kelley" is because I know someone with the same name who is approximately the same age as KC and I thought "no way!!" but the person was from up north if I remember correctly - not from a southern state.
 
I'm glad this thread got bumped! I too found this visit very odd. I wonder if LE ever interviewed him.
 
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