Patsy Ramsey 1956-2006

[cami]

Heavenly Father, please help her son to find your comfort in the loss of his Mother. In Jesus' Name, amen.

Having just lost my mother on June 14th, I can relate. Grant them peace and comfort on the loss a mother and a wife. Amen.

 

[Wudge]

Saturday, June 24 2006



http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/06/24/ramsey.death/index.html

This thread is for our members who are Ramsey supporters and for anyone else who wishes to pay their respects to members of the Ramsey family.

No bashing please. Disrespectful posts will be removed.

Kindness, grace, decency, behavior, and, if necessary, silence, cost posters nothing. Member posts should appropriately reflect upon Patsy's passing and this thread represents what Websleuths should allow.

Thank you.

For many a year, the entire Ramsey family has suffered from the heartbreak of JonBenet's murder while also having to endure massive public ridicule and torment. As if those earthly burdens were not enough during that unholy time, Patsy also had to fight a hideous cancer that finally claimed her body.

Patsy's soul is now under God's care. May she and all of the Ramseys forever receive his grace.

 

[shana]

Whatever be your beliefs in a deity or not...no matter your opinions as to who is culpable in this case...may the family continue to receive the grace it deserves.

To Wudge, I'm a bit confused about the soul-caring part...you mean I have to wait until I die for that to happen? btw, you're welcome.

To Cami: I am so very sorry to read of your Mother's passing, and so I send to you my heartfelt condolences and comfort. It is your time to rely on those who care about you for support...and take strength from those who don't know you who offer theirs as well.

 

[txsvicki]

As I have said before, I don't care whether or not Patsy killed JonBenet. If she didn't, god what suffering and strenght; if she did, it was not premeditated and she has surely suffered enough. Rest in peace Patsy. Anyone who thinks she "deserves" this should visit a psychiatrist, stat.

I care who killed JonBenet and I don't see how anyone could possible know that it wasn't premeditated if she did it. If she did it, she did not have to go to jail or even adequately answer questions and if my mother killed me, I would want her in prison whether she planned it or not. I don't think that she deserved to suffer cancer but that is the risk we all run in life. Many convicts such as John Gotti suffered cancer in prison and never even killed any children that I've heard about. The murderer of JonBenet has still gotten off scott free while she never had the chance to live. No one would ever be so nice to O.J. if he were to suffer some bad disease. He at least had to go to trial when LE was convinced that he did it.

 

[jaybird]

I care who killed JonBenet and I don't see how anyone could possible know that it wasn't premeditated if she did it. If she did it, she did not have to go to jail or even adequately answer questions and if my mother killed me, I would want her in prison whether she planned it or not. I don't think that she deserved to suffer cancer but that is the risk we all run in life. Many convicts such as John Gotti suffered cancer in prison and never even killed any children that I've heard about. The murderer of JonBenet has still gotten off scott free while she never had the chance to live. No one would ever be so nice to O.J. if he were to suffer some bad disease. He at least had to go to trial when LE was convinced that he did it.

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[leann coburn]

I've never posted on this forum. But I have kept up with all of this over the years. Yes, it is sad to us when anyone dies. But that is probably just out of ignorance and fear. That's the selfishness in us, so to speak. And it reminds us of our own mortality and that the clock is always ticking. Actually, death is but a natural part of life. In western society, we spend a lot of time blocking the very thought of it out. And this is counter-productive. We should embrace death when it comes naturally or through accident. It is the time, imo, that is appointed for us to die. For the string of life that connects us to this time and space to be cut.

I don't know who killed JBR. I guess most people have had the thought that it happened inside the house and therefore must have been someone in the house. None of us knows for sure. But there is cosmic justice, if you will. Having worked in the funeral business for many years, death is a familiar friend. For someone in the agonizing throes of cancer, it can be salvation itself. When you can't eat and you can't see and you can't interact with the world around you, death is your friend. Whether Patsy had any knowledge as to what happened to her daughter, she surely suffered terribly here on this earth. It is a belief held by many that when a person has already been through such a form of hell, surely that person will not experience it after death. Most people that hope she is suffering somewhere hope that she is in hell. That makes it easy to look at someone who does things we don't like and think "they'll pay for it in the end". I don't claim to know.
But dead is dead in this world. There is no reason to want more from Patsy than what has already been required of her. If we judge one another, how will we be judged? Religious or atheist, spiritual or non, simply respect her passing as a natural thing. The most natural thing after being born. If you choose to think she is answering for something, that is your choice. But she is free from the sickness that ruined her life in this world, and that is a good thing.
Like I said, I have swung back and forth for years as to what happened. First I thought one thing. Then I'd think another. Admit now in your heart of hearts. You weren't there. You don't know. And you know I'm right. So be merciful as you would want others to be when you pass. It's just common ettiquette not to speak ill of the dead. Use another thread and fire away. Just not here on this one.
jmo

 

[ziggy]

I was so shocked and saddened to hear the news. I heard it very late because I've not had the TV on for days...

Patsy rest in Peace. I too believe that you are reunited with your treasured loved ones. I never believed you killed your precious child. I'm so sorry her murder was not solved while you were here to see it, but now you know and you are at peace and not suffering anymore. It's been a rough go for you and your family. May your strength stay with them as they battle on. God Bless the family.

 

[Toltec]

Why wasn't Burke by her side? My guess is that he had final exams...but I would think being by his mother would be more important.

 

[leann coburn]

The last thing to "go" when a person is dying at home from cancer is their hearing. Actually, it can become hyper-tuned as the brain is the organ that usually keeps itself alive for the longest. My fil died from lung cancer several years ago. He was tough and hung on way too long. On his final day, he was saying he was out fishing in his boat with a dog that we had buried years before. And then he was saying that he wasn't ready to go. The hospice nurse gave him a second shot of morphine for the day as his breathing was very labored. She suggested we put on some music in the adjoining living room that he had always loved, and it was country for sure. Then everyone said "let's go to the kitchen and make some sandwiches...aren't you guys hungry?" Of course, none of us was hungry and there were no sandwiches being made, but it made Travis feel in his brain as if everything were normal, like they had always been. We actually stepped out into the hall and were very very quiet. After about 15 minutes, my mother in law went back into his room and took his hand and told him that she wanted him to go now. That it was time and that everything was fine. She stepped back out into the hall. Travis' eyes were closed by now and he didn't see us. If anything, we were making sandwiches and going about our routine business. About five minutes later, he let out his long final breath and it was finally over for him. We cried yet we rejoiced for he was free from suffering. And we never felt guilty because we were feeling good for him. The hospice nurse told us that he would probably not pass as easily while we were all surrounding him in his bed. He was very aware that we were there, watching him. And he refused to let go. It was so wondrous when he breathed his last and the pain was gone.

Why wasn't Burke there? Sometimes, it's just too painful. And sometimes it's just a matter of the person taking a quick turn for the worse, followed by an injection to ease the passing. She would not have been aware that Burke was present or not, imo. And he had probably been informed of how she would pass and he might have made the decision that he did not want her to pass from this world in front of him. It's a hard thing to watch, especially if you are as young as he is. Us older people can sometimes handle it better. And if she had been as bad off as we think, she may have been unable to react with others for quite some time, so Burke would have known the situation.

While they are definitely grieving, they are also seeing the ending of her suffering. In this world. And I cannot answer for anything beyond that. So I am sure that the family sees some "victory" in her death. I know exactly how they feel.

jmo and bless us all (remember: it is illegal to cause death. It is not illegal to hasten death when death is imminent and pain and/or suffering is present) Now I remember: he passed to the wonderful sounds of Hank Williams Sr, who himself died at age 29. Haunting and beautiful and just like an old glove to him.

 

[BBB167893]

While they are definitely grieving, they are also seeing the ending of her suffering. In this world. And I cannot answer for anything beyond that. So I am sure that the family sees some "victory" in her death. I know exactly how they feel.

I'd say that sums it all up for me, too.

You know, I lost my dad to cancer. I wouldn't wish it on anyone, regardless of my feelings toward them. That's all I'll say.

 

[Karole28]

Then everyone said "let's go to the kitchen and make some sandwiches...aren't you guys hungry?" Of course, none of us was hungry and there were no sandwiches being made, but it made Travis feel in his brain as if everything were normal, like they had always been. We actually stepped out into the hall and were very very quiet. After about 15 minutes, my mother in law went back into his room and took his hand and told him that she wanted him to go now. That it was time and that everything was fine. She stepped back out into the hall.

That is really quite lovely, the way you wrote it.

 

[britgirl]

I'll reiterate my statement that is in "UP TO THE MINUTE" POST.


"Patsy, not everyone believed in your guilt. I initially did UNTIL I READ ALL THE EVIDENCE. I've never been in support of your family's strange decisions to hire lawyers BUT I BELIEVED AND STILL DO IN THE INTRUDER THEORY.

You were one year older than my mom when you died..... I hope you and JON BENET Find everlasting peace and happiness and I have no doubt she's so incredibly happy to have her mom there now.... You've left behind Burke, but he'll be ok too. I know you'll see to that.

My daughter is almost 16, same age as Jon Benet would have been. I feel nothing but sadness that you did not find justice and clear your family's name before you left. Maybe you'll have more pull on the other side.

ONCE AGAIN..... not everyone believes (believed) in your guilt. Rest well Patsy. You've so EARNED IT. :blowkiss:

I couldn't agree with you more.

Her suffering is over and I believe she is with her beloved daughter again. Rest in peace Mrs Ramsey.

 

[mfmangel1]

My thoughts and prayers are with the Ramsey family. Even though they are surely mourning their loss, they know in their hearts that Patsy is no longer suffering; she is at peace and she is reunited with her precious JonBenet.