Patsy's Interview..."I Don't Knows"..."I Can't Remembers"....etc.

  • #81
You may be more right than you know.
 
  • #82
It was almost like PR had a post-mortem "Munchausen by Proxy".
 
  • #83
  • #84
Or in this case.."Munchausen by PATSY".

right on,it seems she played every situation for all the attention she could get out of it.
 
  • #85
Some people ask me "why did they stage such a horrible thing?" And I tell them: that's how it HAD to be. JB lived a spectacular life. When she was no longer willing to draw attention in life, she would do so with a spectacular death.

Not just any demise would do, you understand. It had to be something sensational.

And bizarre Patsy just couldn't resist the opportunity to forever associate herself, JonBenet, and Christmas on a world stage.
 
  • #86
Sometimes I wonder if maybe, just maybe, that's what this whole thing is about.
 
  • #87
Sometimes I wonder if maybe, just maybe, that's what this whole thing is about.

I think I understand what you mean. By having their beauty queen "frozen" in time- the uncertainty of her future is dissolved. They will never deal with the "what ifs". What if she stopped competing, started LOSING the pageants, rebelled against them, ran away with her high-school sweetheart, yada yada.
And NOW she remains eternally beautiful, innocent and (most important to them) KNOWN.

It THIS what 'ya meant, SuperDave?
 
  • #88
Some people ask me "why did they stage such a horrible thing?" And I tell them: that's how it HAD to be. JB lived a spectacular life. When she was no longer willing to draw attention in life, she would do so with a spectacular death.

Not just any demise would do, you understand. It had to be something sensational.

That makes so much sense.

Sometimes I wonder if maybe, just maybe, that's what this whole thing is about.

That, not so much
 
  • #89
And bizarre Patsy just couldn't resist the opportunity to forever associate herself, JonBenet, and Christmas on a world stage.

don't forget Christmas too...the date on her head stone...
rem. Patsy's 'you need Christmas more than anyone' story in DOI?
 
  • #90
Sometimes I wonder if maybe, just maybe, that's what this whole thing is about.

SuperDave,
I prefer to think Patsy was playing some melodramatic role, percieved by her to reflect that of the wife of a millionaire, cancer survivor, and mother of a deceased pageant princess?

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  • #91
SuperDave,
I prefer to think Patsy was playing some melodramatic role, percieved by her to reflect that of the wife of a millionaire, cancer survivor, and mother of a deceased pageant princess?

.

you're saying she had a role to fulfill,a big one...and she went out of her way to do it...and Jonbenet wasn't cooperating,wasn't doing her part,as Patsy wanted her to..she was rebelling...so she had to go?
 
  • #92
PR viewed herself as "larger-than-life" and she was aiming her daughter the same way. Now, JBR is forever famous, just as her mother wanted her to be. I am not so sure this would be the case if she had not been murdered that night, and had gone on to grow up. Would she have been just one more pretty teenage "model" stuck doing local fashion shows? She might not have the height or build for big-time modeling. Would she have made it to Broadway? She was an extrordinarily pretty little girl, but would she have grown up to fulfill that promise of beauty and talent that was beginning to bloom in a little girl?
We'll never know, but my own thought is that had she lived, we'd have never known her name. She'd have been just one of many pretty little girls who have a bit of talent and a stage mother to push them. She'd have gone through the pageant system till she got too involved in school or boyfriends to want to do it any more, or untill her mother died and she was "free". PR's cancer being a factor, and Nedra's talk of "miracles" notwithstanding, she would not have survived JBR's high school years. And actually she didn't.
So her murder gave her what life probably wouldn't have. World-wide fame and a household name.
 
  • #93
you're saying she had a role to fulfill,a big one...and she went out of her way to do it...and Jonbenet wasn't cooperating,wasn't doing her part,as Patsy wanted her to..she was rebelling...so she had to go?

JMO8778,

More that what we percieve as motives reflecting Patsy's psychological makeup, is after JonBenet's death a role played to assist in elaborating a staged homicide.

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  • #94
JMO8778,

More that what we percieve as motives reflecting Patsy's psychological makeup, is after JonBenet's death a role played to assist in elaborating a staged homicide.

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I'm missing your point here...you think JR killed her and Patsy just used the ensuing drama of it to further her cause of JB becoming famous?
 
  • #95
PR viewed herself as "larger-than-life" and she was aiming her daughter the same way. Now, JBR is forever famous, just as her mother wanted her to be. I am not so sure this would be the case if she had not been murdered that night, and had gone on to grow up. Would she have been just one more pretty teenage "model" stuck doing local fashion shows? She might not have the height or build for big-time modeling. Would she have made it to Broadway? She was an extrordinarily pretty little girl, but would she have grown up to fulfill that promise of beauty and talent that was beginning to bloom in a little girl?

hard to say,isn't it? but as far as looks are concerned,the Olsen twins were just adorable growing up...but are rather ordinary looking now.And Paris Hilton is a pretty girl..but there's not much else to her,despite her fame and fortune...same with Britney..and I have to wonder just *where her brain is lately..it takes a good combo of looks,talent,personality and values,IMO,to make it where Patsy wanted her to go.But I think JB's values would have outshone the shallow ones Patsy had in mind for her,IMO.


We'll never know, but my own thought is that had she lived, we'd have never known her name. She'd have been just one of many pretty little girls who have a bit of talent and a stage mother to push them. She'd have gone through the pageant system till she got too involved in school or boyfriends to want to do it any more, or untill her mother died and she was "free". PR's cancer being a factor, and Nedra's talk of "miracles" notwithstanding, she would not have survived JBR's high school years. And actually she didn't.
So her murder gave her what life probably wouldn't have. World-wide fame and a household name.


well-said !! I think she has the most famous grave in America,besides Kennedy..and maybe even more so than his anymore.anyone else agree?
 
  • #96
hard to say,isn't it? but as far as looks are concerned,the Olsen twins were just adorable growing up...but are rather ordinary looking now.And Paris Hilton is a pretty girl..but there's not much else to her,despite her fame and fortune...same with Britney..and I have to wonder just *where her brain is lately..it takes a good combo of looks,talent,personality and values,IMO,to make it where Patsy wanted her to go.But I think JB's values would have outshone the shallow ones Patsy had in mind for her,IMO.





well-said !! I think she has the most famous grave in America,besides Kennedy..and maybe even more so than his anymore.anyone else agree?

JonBenet's grave is most likely visited by the curious/looky-loos...a small percentage of them I believe are mournful of her death.

Not so with Kennedy. I've been to Arlington. It's a long walk to his grave and when you get there, there are lots of people already there. What really caught my attention was that there was absolute silence...you could hear a pin drop. Nobody said one word.
 
  • #97
JonBenet's grave is most likely visited by the curious/looky-loos...a small percentage of them I believe are mournful of her death.

Not so with Kennedy. I've been to Arlington. It's a long walk to his grave and when you get there, there are lots of people already there. What really caught my attention was that there was absolute silence...you could hear a pin drop. Nobody said one word.

I've been too,not many ppl when I was there, but yes..very silent...lots of respect for him,for sure.
 
  • #98
And let's add Elvis to the list of famous graves! Especially this month.
 
  • #99
And let's add Elvis to the list of famous graves! Especially this month.

good idea ! I was 12 and was at the beach when he died...ppl were running around and running out of their hotel rooms screaming 'Elvis is dead !' when it was announced. I had no idea at that age that he was so loved.
 
  • #100
good idea ! I was 12 and was at the beach when he died...ppl were running around and running out of their hotel rooms screaming 'Elvis is dead !' when it was announced. I had no idea at that age that he was so loved.

We must be the same age...I was also 12...when Elvis died. We got a phone call from my first cousin (my dad's niece)..who is married to Elvis' 2nd cousin. That's how I found out about it....I have never been an Elvis fan though!! LOL
 

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