Penn State athletic director plus ex-Paterno assistant charged in child rape case #2

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We need to be SURE - not guessing, before we connect anyone to this case.

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Salem
 
I wish just one human in this group of men, would just say "yup we all knew and we knew back in 1980 and tried to wish it away" even take it further and name names and have notes written down. Just someone willing to go against the grain. Why does'nt someone want to be the hero or at least act humble and acknowledge how much this has been covered up.

Money has never meant anything to me other than to pay bills and feed my family, I cannot fathom putting career/money/loyality to a sports-entertainment franchise, before the well being of another human, much less a small helpless human. Are these people not repulsed thinking how physically and mentally damaged these boys are?? I am and I did'nt have to work around sandusky or the enablers.




I don't think it's the money that kept them from reporting this to LE, it was (IMO) the POWER that they had. And they had the power all right....

So, what changed? HOW did this come to light? How did this get to the GJ? I would really like to know.
 
You can see here on the bottom of page 1 his bail is unsecured. It means he paid nothing to get out just signed a paper saying he would pay 100k if he did not show up for court.

Look and the freaking list of charges on page 2.

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site515/2011/1105/20111105_070457_sandusky.pdf




http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/234/chapter5/s528.html


Nothing in this rule precludes the bail authority from releasing the defendant on an unsecured bail bond whereby the defendant, upon executing the bail bond, binds himself or herself to be liable for an amount of money in the event the defendant fails to appear or to comply with the conditions of the bail bond. Although this is a monetary condition, no actual security or money is deposited as a condition of the release. See Rule 524(C)(3) for the definition of unsecured bail bond.
 
I don't think it's the money that kept them from reporting this to LE, it was (IMO) the POWER that they had. And they had the power all right....

So, what changed? HOW did this come to light? How did this get to the GJ? I would really like to know.

My understanding is that one of the victim's and his wrestling coach reported it. Good for that high school coach!

Salem
 
That is why it is all on the judge for releasing him on no bail.

You have an accused predator, high risk of being murdered or committing suicide which are perfect reasons for not giving bail since that means the person will not show up for court. And yet this judge releases him and does not make him pay a penny to get out.

His bail was 100k but he did not have to pay it and will not unless he does not show up for court.

Can we call for the removal of the <modsnip> magistrate? What did she cover up when making this call? Is she too under the demented football mentality of PSU? Did she too answer to the morally inferior old man? If that was the case, Thursday morning she would've revoked his bail when the old man in power was no more...
 
Can we call for the removal of the <modsnip> magistrate? What did she cover up when making this call? Is she too under the demented football mentality of PSU? Did she too answer to the morally inferior old man? If that was the case, Thursday morning she would've revoked his bail when the old man in power was no more...

It is reported the SA never asked for bail and just left it up to the judge? What the heck does that mean? Why didn't the SA argue for it?
 
My understanding is that one of the victim's and his wrestling coach reported it. Good for that high school coach!

Salem

High school coach witnesses encounter. Did nothing about it. This is Victim 1. The administrators and coaches at Victim 1's school tried to persuade Victim 1's mother to not press charges.

I applaud Victim 1 and his mother for not giving in!

And for willow. It was Victim 1's strength to come forward despite being asked not to that brought this in front of GJ.
 
I understand and do apologize for mentioning religious affiliations but MSM has definitely mentioned the similarities between these incidents involving Sandusky and what has been covered up by heirarchy within certain religious establishments....JMHO..

If that is the case, Emeralgem - then please feel free to link it up. If it is in the MSM, it can be discussed.

I admit I have not read every article - there are just too many of them.

Thanks,

Salem
 
High school coach witnesses encounter. Did nothing about it. This is Victim 1. The administrators and coaches at Victim 1's school tried to persuade Victim 1's mother to not press charges.

I applaud Victim 1 and his mother for not giving in!

Scorp - I did not see this version of the events. Can you point me to where this is being reported? I would love to read that article. I was thinking the high school coach was a 'standup' guy :(

Salem
 
My understanding is that one of the victim's and his wrestling coach reported it. Good for that high school coach!

Salem

How did it get to the Grand Jury? The mother of Victim #1? If so, I applaud her. It must have been very, very secret talks. I'm surprised she's alive to tell the tale. JMO
 
You know, I'm to the point where I don't care what the "laws" of Pennsylvania were, or what the policies of this university were. :maddening: And that goes for any other state where people aren't technically forced by the law to report abuse.

I took education classes back in the early 80s and we were told that teachers and coaches have a moral imperative to protect children. I thought that was a universal belief, and yet somehow in this case grown men were afraid to intervene in the rape of more than one child, and were able to keep going back to this athletic department to draw a paycheck.

I can understand the janitors being afraid to report a coach, but I still think they should have intervened when they saw an adult and a young boy. How difficult is it to yell "Stop!"

I also see lots of articles and hear comments (such as Dr. Drew the other night) stating that McCreary was a "boy" but come one - he was 28 years old - not a boy - and he continues to work for Paterno's football program to this day. How does he sleep at night?

The irony is rich that in trying to protect the reputation of the football program, they have ruined the reputation of the entire school for years to come. I don't feel sorry for JoePa one bit. He knew that nothing was done for these victims. He knew that his friend got off scot free. :twocents:
I keep seeing that, too. I'm a woman, I'm a couple years younger than this McQueary "boy" was at 28..and I'd have been looking for the nearest lead pipe or 2x4 to save this child..
 
It is at the end of one of the articles, they told her are you sure you want to report this, think about what it will do to the child, blah blah and she says she went and got her child right then and took him in to report it.

Sickening...

"The official, who Gillum declined to identify, then reminded the mother of Sandusky's solid reputation in the community. The psychologist said the official characterized Sandusky as having "a heart of gold.""

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/coll...dusky-investigation-victim-1-cover/51160950/1
 
I am surprised this case did not get picked up earlier this year. I stumbled upon this article.

Paterno mum on Sandusky speculations
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2011/04/01/paterno_mum_on_sandusky_speculations.aspx

&#8220;Well, you know we came here to talk about football and this football team and I don&#8217;t have any comment on that,&#8221; Paterno said when asked about allegations involving Sandusky indecently assaulting a teenage boy that stemmed from a story that appeared in The Harrisburg Patriot-News on Thursday.

Jerry Sandusky should be an interesting to profile.
 
If that is the case, Emeralgem - then please feel free to link it up. If it is in the MSM, it can be discussed.

I admit I have not read every article - there are just too many of them.

Thanks,

Salem

Salem, I did not obtain my information from an article... I heard it on TV.


[video=youtube;6ttHMooIi7Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ttHMooIi7Y[/video]
 
I am surprised this case did not get picked up earlier this year. I stumbled upon this article.

Paterno mum on Sandusky speculations
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2011/04/01/paterno_mum_on_sandusky_speculations.aspx

“Well, you know we came here to talk about football and this football team and I don’t have any comment on that,” Paterno said when asked about allegations involving Sandusky indecently assaulting a teenage boy that stemmed from a story that appeared in The Harrisburg Patriot-News on Thursday.

Jerry Sandusky should be an interesting to profile.

Paterno had to be mum. There was a GJ investigation taking place. Off to look for that patriot news article.
 
Sister of Jerry Sandusky victim talks about the pain of life at Penn State where students are joking about being 'Sanduskied'
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/sister_of_sandusky_victim_talk.html

“I’ve been going to minimal classes, because every class I go to I get sick to my stomach. People are making jokes about it. I understand they don’t know I’m involved and it was my brother, but it’s still really hard to swallow that.”

Instead, the outrage on campus has been directed mostly at national media, which descended during the weekend, set up camp and have stayed put as the scandal violently jolts in directions that, each day, seem more unbelievable than the last.

I have seen this pattern before at other places like South Hadley.
 
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