Penn State Sandusky Trial #10

[J. J. in Phila]

Problem with Victim 4 case, I think. It was one of the stronger ones. That leaves Victim 1 and Victim 6 as the stronger.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Kevin Cirilli‏@kevcirilli

Histrionic personality disorder doctor could testify this afternoon. #sandusky

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Michael Sisak‏@cvmikesisak

Meta moment - Patrons at Mamma Lucrezia's watch @sganim on Tru TV broadcasting outside #Sandusky trial down block. http://pic.twitter.com/eJGqw0iR

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The Patriot-News‏@PatriotNews

.@sganim was subpoenaed as a "precaution" by the defense, doesn't need to leave court. She won #Pulitzer for her work on the #Sandusky case.

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Sara Ganim‏@sganim

#Sandusky trooper had denied telling accusers what others said, but recording played in court shows he did.

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Your Legal Lady‏@MariFagel

#Sandusky defense continues to attack victim 4 credibility, plays recording of his initial interview w/ police to show leading questions,etc

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Audrey Snyder‏@audsnyder4

IF Dottie #Sandusky takes the stand we can only wonder how this will go. People ask if she was suspicious. Did she hear cries from basement?

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Michael Sisak‏@cvmikesisak

#Sandusky atty tells def psychologist he may testify this afternoon. PowerPoint on defense Mac labeled "histrionic personality disorder."

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Your Legal Lady‏@MariFagel

#Sandusky investigators on recording heard telling victim 4 about other accusers, saying "ur a victim" defense says thats coaching/grooming

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Adam Smeltz‏@SmeltzTrib

To clarify: #Sandusky trial on recess UNTIL 12:50. Also, "Victim 4" lawyer Andreozzi says youth "didn't feel comfortable" talking with cops.

 

[Reader]

Big Ten Network to play 25 straight hrs. of PSU programming starting Wed. at 6am... Surely Sandusky trial updates will cont to lead the news

by audsnyder4 via twitter12:01 PM


IF Dottie #Sandusky takes the stand we can only wonder how this will go. People ask if she was suspicious. Did she hear cries from basement?

by audsnyder4 via twitter11:58 AM


#Sandusky media chases down Andreozzi victim 4 atty for comment. Silence

by astockey via twitter11:55 AM


#Sandusky trooper had denied telling accusers what others said, but recording played in court shows he did.

by sganim via twitter11:54 AM


#Sandusky attnys show, thru recording, that trooper did tell Victim4 what other accuser said in police interviews, how many others talked

by sganim via twitter11:54 AM
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One #Sandusky trooper just said he didn't discuss testimony with another trooper in court hallway, but the other trooper said they did

by sganim via twitter11:53 AM



Read more: http://livewire.wtae.com/Event/Jerry_Sandusky_Trial_2#ixzz1yG0YsRKM

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

This is OT but somewhat related to the trial. The JS case has reminded me of a former teacher at DD's elementary school who was convicted on child charges about 20 years ago. By that time, the male teacher had retired and we no longer lived down the street from the school, but I couldn't help wondering what might have been going on while Mr. L was teaching second and third grade students for 30 years. DD didn't have this teacher, but I knew him through my volunteer activities at the school. From all reports, Mr. L was a competent teacher who was well-liked by his colleagues, students, and parents. I was shocked and saddened to read about the charges in the local papers and watch TV reporters at the former teacher's home trying to get an interview. I hope that none of Mr. L's students were victimized during his tenure at the neighborhood school.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Outside The Lines‏@OTLonESPN

Dottie Sandusky, Jerry's wife, has arrived at the courthouse and is expected to testify this afternoon.

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Ben Jones‏@Ben_Jones88

Testimony today that Victim 4 has reputation for dishonesty and embellishing stories.

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Ben Jones‏@Ben_Jones88

RT @tinz091 Amendola seems to have speculated that a retired state trooper led Victim 4 into telling police Sandusky abused him.

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Ben Jones‏@Ben_Jones88

Word is Dottie Sandusky will testify this afternoon.

 

[Reader]

Experts cast doubt on Sandusky's disorder defense

http://www.centurylink.net/news/rea...org>&news_id=18975984&src=most_popular_viewed

.........But Dr. Glen Gabbard, clinical professor of psychiatry at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, said histrionic personality disorder could in no way be seen as a reason or explanation for the abuse of children.

"That diagnosis, if he has it, would be completely irrelevant to anything having to do with criminal responsibility for acts of pedophilia," said Gabbard, an expert on personality disorders.

More at link....

 

[Quiche]

Photo of the two defense witnesses who testified yesterday. Have your eye bleach handy because the thought of either if these two ole men showering with a child is just gross!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...other-alleged-victim-testifies-underwear.html

moo

Omg, Mr. Anderson reminds me of the Adams' Family butler... I would not want to see him in the shower, I would not want to see him at any hour!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCc-RWIp7XU"]Lurch - YouTube[/ame]

Hello everyone! I've been reading but haven't chimed in yet. I'm way to behind.

I remembered a while back, while doing some research that I came across this article about a event held at PSU in 2002. I thought it was interesting.

http://www.wnd.com/2002/03/13317/

Not unusual for a University Campus-- it's a place where every aspect of a topic is explored. Doesn't surprise me one bit, but I do doubt that the Pedophilia discussion actually drew pedos-- more likely sociology majors, psychology majors, trauma nurses, pediatric specialties, and so on. The C***Fest, on the other hand, was probably well attended by those who possess one (it can be compared to the Va***a Monologues and the Sl*T Walk). It's all women's empowerment dressed up in a way that can be promoted globally these days. JMO


Regarding our most recent barrage of updates (hard to assimilate all at once, isn't it?!) I'm not terribly worried-- to me, it's like a kiddie shovel of snow out of an avalanche. The jury will remember that a victim's own mother didn't want to extract the information because it was too painful for both of them! Getting those young men to speak out against him must have been an arduous task, and devastating emotionally for everyone involved. Just horrific.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Ross Levitt‏@cnnross

Defense is definitely having their best day so far. No question. But yesterday was a half day and the rest was the prosecution. #Sandusky

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Michael Sisak‏@cvmikesisak

Media e-mail: If jurors get the case by the weekend, they will deliberate over the weekend. #Sandusky

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Catherine Seraphin‏@CJSeraphin

#PennState group calls for trustee's resignation over #Sandusky 'cover up' comment: http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/penn_state_group_calls_for_boa.html

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Mark Dent‏@mdent05

#Sandusky is wearing the nicest suit he's had in several days. That's the only hint so far he may testify today

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[ohiogirl]

Experts cast doubt on Sandusky's disorder defense

http://www.centurylink.net/news/rea...org>&news_id=18975984&src=most_popular_viewed

.........But Dr. Glen Gabbard, clinical professor of psychiatry at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, said histrionic personality disorder could in no way be seen as a reason or explanation for the abuse of children.

"That diagnosis, if he has it, would be completely irrelevant to anything having to do with criminal responsibility for acts of pedophilia," said Gabbard, an expert on personality disorders.

More at link....

I don't think the defense if saying this personality disorder is responsible for acts of pedophilia at all.
I wish they would address the relevant issues. jmo

 

[ohiogirl]

But, if they can bring in psychiatrists to attest to this "disorder" will the pros. be allowed to bring in psychiatrists to attest to the behaviour problems of molested children? I hope so.

 

[Quiche]

I wonder if Dottie is a cool liar? :waitasec: I hope the prosecution has a little something they've held back just for her-- I think she'll need to be rattled/caught off guard by a question or two. We know she has a short fuse and quite a temper (refer to vehicular assault potentials, lol). jmo

(It is an advantage to have had the wife in the Zimmerman case be charged with perjury this past week... I hope Dottie learned something from that!)

 

[ThoughtFox]

The Washington Post‏@washingtonpost

#Sandusky's attorney suggests accusers were coached by investigators, may have incentive to lie: http://wapo.st/KR93dF

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Sara Ganim‏@sganim

#Sandusky police investigators give conflicting testimony about conversations with each other, with alleged victims http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/jerry_sandusky_trial_state_pol_1.html

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Vinnie Politan‏@VinniePolitan

Dottie #Sandusky spotted at the courthouse! Will she take the stand today... Tune in to In Session on TruTV...

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Michael Sisak‏@cvmikesisak

About to resume at #Sandusky trial. Long line of media, spectators waiting to get through security.

 

[StellarsJay]

Excellent article about development of Second Mile posted by WaltzingMatilda:
http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_n...nt-empty-home-where-his-charity-was-born?lite

Placed into the Timeline chronology, and marked** it shows :

1977: Jerry Sandusky, recently promoted to defensive coordinator at Penn State, forms "The Second Mile," an organization with the mission of helping troubled young boys, particularly those from absent or dysfunctional families.
Jan. 1, 1982: Penn State wins its first national championship with a 27-23 win over No. 1 Georgia.

**Sales from his football book, “Developing Linebackers,” provided the seed money, along with donations and celebrity golf tournaments that would soon become an annual affair.

**In 1981, The Second Mile bought a 20-acre plot on Bernel Road for $64,000.
** 1982: The next year, the state licensed The Second Mile to serve as a private foster care agency.

** By October 1982, at least three foster children – all boys, ages 10 to 18 -- lived in the house. An article in The Daily Collegian, the Penn State newspaper, described a typical day: Doing chores, playing games and going on picnics with the house parents, a couple chosen by Sandusky and The Second Mile. Each resident had a member of the Penn State football team as a mentor.

**In 1983, The Second Mile hired Jack Raykovitz, who had recently finished his Ph.D. in school psychology at Penn State. In its early days, Raykovitz ran the day-to-day operations of the charity, which included week-long camps -- first for boys, then also for girls -- on the Penn State campus. He signed off on licensing documents for the foster care agency. For a short time, state records show, he also provided psychological counseling to some of the foster children.

M 1985 or 86: Matthew Sandusky had joined The Second Mile around age 7, along with his younger brother, Ron Heichel, a bigger and more rambunctious kid than shy and reserved Matt.

1986: Jerry Sandusky is named Assistant Coach of the Year (says Wikipedia)
Jan. 2, 1987: Sandusky's punishing defense intercepts Heisman-winning quarterback Vinny Testaverde five times, lifting Penn State to a 14-10 upset of No. 1 Miami and the school's second national title.
October 1987: In an interview with NBC News, Sandusky discusses his affinity for working with children: "I enjoy being around children. I enjoy their enthusiasm. I just have a good time with them."

1988: Jack Reykovitz becomes President of Second Mile

**In 1988, records show the charity stopped actively operating as a foster care agency, but it kept its license active through 2011

Note: Jerry has access to foster kids at SM till 88 when they stop housing kids and Reykovitz is promoted (who ran it until then?) Jerry becomes involved with Matt from 1989 until he comes to live with the Sanduskys in 1996, and just after that Jerry is involved with Victim 7.

Matt 1989: Sandusky entered the lives of the Longs as a mentor when Matt was 10 years old, via The Second Mile charity
November 1990: Praise for The Second Mile's work with children is widespread. President George H.W. Bush names The Second Mile one of his 1,000 points of light.
1993: In `Touched``, Jerry says that when Matt is in 8th grade Matt`s mother agrees that Matt will study and spend time with the Sanduskys. Matt will sign a contract and be rewarded with money, part in cash and part in a college fund.

No one at the trial h as linked the contract Jerry made one of his victims sign with Matt's "contract".

 

[believe09]

Quick question-for those of you who have NOT been sexually abused as children, or dont know any children who were sexually abused, would you think that the behavior exhibited by these young men is evidence that they were NOT abused by Sandusky? That perhaps the 10 of them got together, cooked up a plot and it happened to coincide with some beliefs that have been long held regarding Sandusky and his predilictions?

I mean, the sheer numbers here. These arent even all of the victims that came forward, right?

I am just curious.

 

[amandab]

Um.....my apologies if this is a stupid question, but.....Second Mile was for boys *and* girls??

 

[believe09]

Excellent article about development of Second Mile posted by WaltzingMatilda:
http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_n...nt-empty-home-where-his-charity-was-born?lite

Placed into the Timeline chronology, and marked** it shows :

1977: Jerry Sandusky, recently promoted to defensive coordinator at Penn State, forms "The Second Mile," an organization with the mission of helping troubled young boys, particularly those from absent or dysfunctional families.
Jan. 1, 1982: Penn State wins its first national championship with a 27-23 win over No. 1 Georgia.

**Sales from his football book, “Developing Linebackers,” provided the seed money, along with donations and celebrity golf tournaments that would soon become an annual affair.

**In 1981, The Second Mile bought a 20-acre plot on Bernel Road for $64,000.
** 1982: The next year, the state licensed The Second Mile to serve as a private foster care agency.

** By October 1982, at least three foster children – all boys, ages 10 to 18 -- lived in the house. An article in The Daily Collegian, the Penn State newspaper, described a typical day: Doing chores, playing games and going on picnics with the house parents, a couple chosen by Sandusky and The Second Mile. Each resident had a member of the Penn State football team as a mentor.

**In 1983, The Second Mile hired Jack Raykovitz, who had recently finished his Ph.D. in school psychology at Penn State. In its early days, Raykovitz ran the day-to-day operations of the charity, which included week-long camps -- first for boys, then also for girls -- on the Penn State campus. He signed off on licensing documents for the foster care agency. For a short time, state records show, he also provided psychological counseling to some of the foster children.

M 1985 or 86: Matthew Sandusky had joined The Second Mile around age 7, along with his younger brother, Ron Heichel, a bigger and more rambunctious kid than shy and reserved Matt.

1986: Jerry Sandusky is named Assistant Coach of the Year (says Wikipedia)
Jan. 2, 1987: Sandusky's punishing defense intercepts Heisman-winning quarterback Vinny Testaverde five times, lifting Penn State to a 14-10 upset of No. 1 Miami and the school's second national title.
October 1987: In an interview with NBC News, Sandusky discusses his affinity for working with children: "I enjoy being around children. I enjoy their enthusiasm. I just have a good time with them."

1988: Jack Reykovitz becomes President of Second Mile

**In 1988, records show the charity stopped actively operating as a foster care agency, but it kept its license active through 2011

Note: Jerry has access to foster kids at SM till 88 when they stop housing kids and Reykovitz is promoted (who ran it until then?) Jerry becomes involved with Matt from 1989 until he comes to live with the Sanduskys in 1996, and just after that Jerry is involved with Victim 7.

Matt 1989: Sandusky entered the lives of the Longs as a mentor when Matt was 10 years old, via The Second Mile charity
November 1990: Praise for The Second Mile's work with children is widespread. President George H.W. Bush names The Second Mile one of his 1,000 points of light.
1993: In `Touched``, Jerry says that when Matt is in 8th grade Matt`s mother agrees that Matt will study and spend time with the Sanduskys. Matt will sign a contract and be rewarded with money, part in cash and part in a college fund.

No one at the trial h as linked the contract Jerry made one of his victims sign with Matt's "contract".

So is the thought that the victim is one and the same with Matt or do you think there are more contracts out there??

 

[ThoughtFox]

Dan Wetzel‏@DanWetzel

Unexpected tape, Judge's comment give #Sandusky defense its best moments. My column from Tue AM: http://yhoo.it/M0qFFr

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FightOnState.com‏@FightOnState

Saw Dottie Sandusky in courtroom a few minutes ago. With defense witnesses in #Sandusky trial. Will she take stand?

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Onward State‏@OnwardState

We're heading back into court after recess. Follow along with our live blog for the rest of the afternoon testimony. http://onward.st/M3Ei95

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Michael Sisak‏@cvmikesisak

Awkward moment as prosecutors, late from lunch, sneak past #Sandusky family members on line. "I don't usually cut lines," McGettigan says.

 

[believe09]

I hope he testifies. Even if he doesnt lose it, which he will by some kind of tic or statement, the jurors need to see for themselves. They need to get a sense of him as a man.

He oozes what he is, I think. JMVHO.

 

[believe09]

I think the source of journalists is protected.

http://www.citmedialaw.org/pennsylvania-statutes-title-42-sec-5942

I agree J.J. I doubt that would present the defense from trying to elicit it?

 

[Quiche]

So is the thought that the victim is one and the same with Matt or do you think there are more contracts out there??

I would assume that the contract was more Second Mile and less pervy Sandusky. Given the fact that they were offering college tuition help, I could see a performance based contract with the charity as quite acceptable. jmo

Now, for the gifts and tickets and trips that Jer offered his "asterisk" friends, I think the contract meant different things to those boys. JMO